When the Giants drafted Thibodeaux they all told me he was the kind of guy that would talk a lot and probably had an eye on his post-football career.
I hated the pick at the time, though I can't deny he's had times where he's been a very effective pass rusher. I'm just saying, if trading up for Daniels were a possibility...
But perhaps his comments shed light on a deeper problem this past season.
Schoen and Daboll may have kissed on all the good will they had built up in year one by the way they approached the Saquon and Jones free agency last offseason.
Saquon was offered a large contract during the season, before his production fell off a cliff.
Saquon and his agents turned it down....they gambled and lost.
KT is a 2nd year player that really shouldn't be commenting on veteran players' contracts. Something Tiki Barber learned the hard way from Michael Strahan years ago.
Lombardi got pounded for his "Disease of Me" comments, but it's unfolded exactly how he said it would. A mediocre team goes 9-7-1 and wins a playoff game and everyone wants to get paid. And the players know. You can't lie to the players.
Notice how many players have commented on Jones' contract?
When the Giants drafted Thibodeaux they all told me he was the kind of guy that would talk a lot and probably had an eye on his post-football career.
I hated the pick at the time, though I can't deny he's had times where he's been a very effective pass rusher. I'm just saying, if trading up for Daniels were a possibility...
This feels like the first thing he’s really said in the media that’s mucking up the works but I agree with you, I’d trade him if it meant getting a chance at one of the top QBs and I think Thibs will only get better under better coaching
Also Barkley was offered in season last year and turned it down. He should talk about how he disappeared the last month of the season and only did anything against backups and bums most of the year.
Lombardi got pounded for his "Disease of Me" comments, but it's unfolded exactly how he said it would. A mediocre team goes 9-7-1 and wins a playoff game and everyone wants to get paid. And the players know. You can't lie to the players.
Notice how many players have commented on Jones' contract?
Yup. I don’t even really have a problem with Kayvon saying it either. A lot of players there will feel the same especially after how this year went down. Who gives a shit if what is obvious is public?
RE: I bet he doesn't think middle linebackers should get paid
before edge rushers. Only a pass over run league when it fits him
Eloquent. Man, this cuts right to it. Glad you posted this. I really like KT, but it would sit differently when Dex says something like this. At least my old ass knows Dex isn't a glorified child.
Goody gets what Goody wants and what he has is a league that has hit rock bottom as far as quality goes.
His greatest concern is that the cattle fill the stadiums and the suite he is in doesn't run out of melted butter.
That just sounds stupid. Really, that is stupid. The Giants have nobody to blame but themselves. Thibs is a good player with an ego of a great player and a guy who thinks he "trends" greater off the field.
Barkley and his production is extremely overrated and over played. Its a tired comment. Thibs should remember you don't talk about other peoples money..
I hope Saquon and DJ never play a down for the Giants again. I can’t for this era to be OVER. Dave Gettleman is a fucking bafoon and John Mara is an even bigger idiot for putting this franchise in this situation.
I hope Saquon and DJ never play a down for the Giants again. I can’t for this era to be OVER. Dave Gettleman is a fucking bafoon and John Mara is an even bigger idiot for putting this franchise in this situation.
Yep. Stop chasing this failed experiment. It's not working. The record proves it.
Barkley WAS offered a contract, a collective deal that would have paid him extremely well. Last one was worth $22M guaranteed, if I recall and Saquon turned it down.
Thibodeaux is a young guy who needs to keep it private. Whether he believes what he says or not.
I guarantee he's upset with KT. Possibly to the point of trading.
Could be a blessing in disguise for the upcoming draft perhaps.
Trading the better player for saying something publicly, because of an organizational mistake and failure is exactly why the Giants are in the spot they are.
I guarantee he's upset with KT. Possibly to the point of trading.
Could be a blessing in disguise for the upcoming draft perhaps.
I'm sure it will great for the cohesiveness of this franchise if Mara pressures Schoen to trade the very first draft pick he made for his regime. Schoen gets super defensive about Evan Neal for god's sake.
Why would you think that was a good idea, especially when the other guy is your QB and will certainly be here next year?
Don't turn into an idiot Thibs. You're not exactly lighting it up for an early draft pick either.
KT is an idiot too.
I hated the pick at the time, though I can't deny he's had times where he's been a very effective pass rusher. I'm just saying, if trading up for Daniels were a possibility...
Schoen and Daboll may have kissed on all the good will they had built up in year one by the way they approached the Saquon and Jones free agency last offseason.
Saquon and his agents turned it down....they gambled and lost.
KT is a 2nd year player that really shouldn't be commenting on veteran players' contracts. Something Tiki Barber learned the hard way from Michael Strahan years ago.
Meaningless Games.
Meaningless results.
Goody gets what Goody wants and what he has is a league that has hit rock bottom as far as quality goes.
His greatest concern is that the cattle fill the stadiums and the suite he is in doesn't run out of melted butter.
Lombardi got pounded for his "Disease of Me" comments, but it's unfolded exactly how he said it would. A mediocre team goes 9-7-1 and wins a playoff game and everyone wants to get paid. And the players know. You can't lie to the players.
Notice how many players have commented on Jones' contract?
That's just what I thought. Oh boy... incoming.
I hated the pick at the time, though I can't deny he's had times where he's been a very effective pass rusher. I'm just saying, if trading up for Daniels were a possibility...
This feels like the first thing he’s really said in the media that’s mucking up the works but I agree with you, I’d trade him if it meant getting a chance at one of the top QBs and I think Thibs will only get better under better coaching
I am a fan of both players and very disappointed it didn't work out, but yeah, I agree.
So much continued drama at all levels of the organization over a duo that hasn't even put up a double-digit win season.
This too will pass.
Nice work Thibodeaux.
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Lombardi got pounded for his "Disease of Me" comments, but it's unfolded exactly how he said it would. A mediocre team goes 9-7-1 and wins a playoff game and everyone wants to get paid. And the players know. You can't lie to the players.
Notice how many players have commented on Jones' contract?
Yup. I don’t even really have a problem with Kayvon saying it either. A lot of players there will feel the same especially after how this year went down. Who gives a shit if what is obvious is public?
Eloquent. Man, this cuts right to it. Glad you posted this. I really like KT, but it would sit differently when Dex says something like this. At least my old ass knows Dex isn't a glorified child.
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What did you hear in every game from the announcers? The other team was worried about containing/stopping Barkley.
Nobody every lost any sleep trying to figure out how to slow down Daniel Jones.
Meaningless Games.
Meaningless results.
Goody gets what Goody wants and what he has is a league that has hit rock bottom as far as quality goes.
His greatest concern is that the cattle fill the stadiums and the suite he is in doesn't run out of melted butter.
That just sounds stupid. Really, that is stupid. The Giants have nobody to blame but themselves. Thibs is a good player with an ego of a great player and a guy who thinks he "trends" greater off the field.
Barkley and his production is extremely overrated and over played. Its a tired comment. Thibs should remember you don't talk about other peoples money..
That’s not entirely true. Saqoun wanted more than what the Giants were willing to offer.
They tried to pay him what the Giants wanted to.
Yep. Stop chasing this failed experiment. It's not working. The record proves it.
I guarantee he's upset with KT. Possibly to the point of trading.
Could be a blessing in disguise for the upcoming draft perhaps.
Barkley WAS offered a contract, a collective deal that would have paid him extremely well. Last one was worth $22M guaranteed, if I recall and Saquon turned it down.
Thibodeaux is a young guy who needs to keep it private. Whether he believes what he says or not.
Just stop
You have no idea how the locker rooms feels and neither do I or anybody else
I guarantee he's upset with KT. Possibly to the point of trading.
Could be a blessing in disguise for the upcoming draft perhaps.
Trading the better player for saying something publicly, because of an organizational mistake and failure is exactly why the Giants are in the spot they are.
Feelings over results.
I guarantee he's upset with KT. Possibly to the point of trading.
Could be a blessing in disguise for the upcoming draft perhaps.
Thibs and #6 pick to CHI.
Is that enough, or do we need to add a 2nd rounder?
I guarantee he's upset with KT. Possibly to the point of trading.
Could be a blessing in disguise for the upcoming draft perhaps.
I'm sure it will great for the cohesiveness of this franchise if Mara pressures Schoen to trade the very first draft pick he made for his regime. Schoen gets super defensive about Evan Neal for god's sake.
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I guarantee he's upset with KT. Possibly to the point of trading.
Could be a blessing in disguise for the upcoming draft perhaps.
Thibs and #6 pick to CHI.
Is that enough, or do we need to add a 2nd rounder?
More. Thibs, #6 and a 2025 first. And I'd do it.
I guarantee he's upset with KT. Possibly to the point of trading.
Could be a blessing in disguise for the upcoming draft perhaps.
I think you are overreacting to this a bit
I’ll agree that KT should not have done this….stupid move on his part
At the same point and time….trading him over this?….seriously doubt that
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to John Mara.
I guarantee he's upset with KT. Possibly to the point of trading.
Could be a blessing in disguise for the upcoming draft perhaps.
I think you are overreacting to this a bit
I’ll agree that KT should not have done this….stupid move on his part
At the same point and time….trading him over this?….seriously doubt that
Seriously just stop no chance trading kt over this.
Meaningless Games.
Meaningless results.
Goody gets what Goody wants and what he has is a league that has hit rock bottom as far as quality goes.
His greatest concern is that the cattle fill the stadiums and the suite he is in doesn't run out of melted butter.
Wild that you've made it to the afternoon without getting banned.
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to John Mara.
I guarantee he's upset with KT. Possibly to the point of trading.
Could be a blessing in disguise for the upcoming draft perhaps.
I think you are overreacting to this a bit
I’ll agree that KT should not have done this….stupid move on his part
At the same point and time….trading him over this?…eriously doubt that
So you wouldn't trade KT (and picks) to move up to the number 1 spot in the draft?