Jones should have been allowed to enter FA, and some other team would be stuck with him as their backup QB, yet Mara stepped into Schoen's office and demanded that Jones should be re-signed at an extortionate contract. The Giants are now paying an injury-prone, backup QB who has zero accuracy in his throwing abilities, and is recovering from a serious knee injury that will take away the one talent he actually has, running.
Now the Giants are sitting with the 6th pick in front of a QB heavy draft, yet thanks to Mara, they are committed to a faulty QB with zero talent.
Saquon Barkley has been a team player for his entire career, and he is still one of the best RB's in the entire NFL. I know all of the other BBI "experts" want to bash Saquon and say that the position of RB is being phased out of the NFL, but which ever team signs SB will enhance their offence by his presence, because he's still a significant weapon in the backfield.
Jones should have been allowed to enter FA, and some other team would be stuck with him as their backup QB, yet Mara stepped into Schoen's office and demanded that Jones should be re-signed at an extortionate contract. The Giants are now paying an injury-prone, backup QB who has zero accuracy in his throwing abilities, and is recovering from a serious knee injury that will take away the one talent he actually has, running.
Now the Giants are sitting with the 6th pick in front of a QB heavy draft, yet thanks to Mara, they are committed to a faulty QB with zero talent.
Saquon Barkley has been a team player for his entire career, and he is still one of the best RB's in the entire NFL. I know all of the other BBI "experts" want to bash Saquon and say that the position of RB is being phased out of the NFL, but which ever team signs SB will enhance their offence by his presence, because he's still a significant weapon in the backfield.
So you have firsthand knowledge that Mara went into Schoen’s office and made that demand?
Interesting….please share more
Zero accuracy….LOL😂😂😂
There are many valid criticisms of Jones….not being accurate is not one of them
"There are many valid criticisms of Jones….not being accurate is not one of them”
Stating that Jones has zero accuracy is obviously hyperbole but saying he is below avg in accuracy for an NFL QB seems pretty obvious and clear.
I wouldn’t say he below average at all
Until this past year….deep ball accuracy was pretty good….this year it was off
When his first read is there…accuracy is pretty good
Issue comes when his first read is taken away
Jones' accuracy is subpar. He has terrible touch, can't throw a fade to save his life, and he always botches throws with important leverage points (wrong side/wrong placement). This is why you never see Jones throw contested catch balls, he can't do it well. If we get Odunze it will be a wasted pick if Jones is the QB. The only reason Jones has decent completion numbers is he was the very bottom of the league in Y/A, and led the league two years running in throws behind the LOS (2021/2022). There is almost no case that Jones is an accurate QB and it is one of his many problems.
"There are many valid criticisms of Jones….not being accurate is not one of them”
Stating that Jones has zero accuracy is obviously hyperbole but saying he is below avg in accuracy for an NFL QB seems pretty obvious and clear.
I wouldn’t say he below average at all
Until this past year….deep ball accuracy was pretty good….this year it was off
When his first read is there…accuracy is pretty good
Issue comes when his first read is taken away
Jones' accuracy is subpar. He has terrible touch, can't throw a fade to save his life, and he always botches throws with important leverage points (wrong side/wrong placement). This is why you never see Jones throw contested catch balls, he can't do it well. If we get Odunze it will be a wasted pick if Jones is the QB. The only reason Jones has decent completion numbers is he was the very bottom of the league in Y/A, and led the league two years running in throws behind the LOS (2021/2022). There is almost no case that Jones is an accurate QB and it is one of his many problems.
"There are many valid criticisms of Jones….not being accurate is not one of them”
Stating that Jones has zero accuracy is obviously hyperbole but saying he is below avg in accuracy for an NFL QB seems pretty obvious and clear.
I wouldn’t say he below average at all
Until this past year….deep ball accuracy was pretty good….this year it was off
When his first read is there…accuracy is pretty good
Issue comes when his first read is taken away
Jones' accuracy is subpar. He has terrible touch, can't throw a fade to save his life, and he always botches throws with important leverage points (wrong side/wrong placement). This is why you never see Jones throw contested catch balls, he can't do it well. If we get Odunze it will be a wasted pick if Jones is the QB. The only reason Jones has decent completion numbers is he was the very bottom of the league in Y/A, and led the league two years running in throws behind the LOS (2021/2022). There is almost no case that Jones is an accurate QB and it is one of his many problems.
Yea ok
Maybe you can tell all of us how Barkley got shafted again or that you think of
John Mara when watching the games
A locker room with good leadership probably doesn't have this come out at all.
What if Thibs IS a locker room leader? He has a big personality and is probably the most famous guy on the defense.
Then the Giants are in trouble. Daniel Jones sucks and shouldn't even be on the roster, but what's the benefit of a team leader knocking the QB's contract?
And there's a second factor: Thibodeaux is wrong. Barkley shouldn't have been paid. He shouldn't be on the roster either; he isn't even worth the franchise tag he got.
God damn this Giants team has been unlikable dogshit for a long time now.
^^ right here is why players and coaches believe most fans are stupid.
Owners know that for a fact because no matter what they do or how bad the team is... fans keep coming back for more
This "Barkley runs soft" mantra is crap, he does not and all the players know it. He routinely runs over people. What is he supposed to do when their is no hole because our OL screws up, run into the butt of his OL, or maybe the gut of the DL Player? Like anyone else he tries to find a place to go. Somehow this is dancing to uninformed people. When the play calls for getting a few yards, like a 3rd and 2, he always puts his head down and pushes the pile. Its like someone said something in 2019, and people just keep regurgitating this crap. Guess what, when Derrick Henry has no blocking he got 12 yards a few games this season. He is the poster guy for tough yards. Its about the OL.
It's pick your poison with these two. Neither should have been paid, and neither should still be with this organization. Both are relics of a miserably failed front office who had no idea how to identify talent.
A locker room with good leadership probably doesn't have this come out at all.
What if Thibs IS a locker room leader? He has a big personality and is probably the most famous guy on the defense.
Then the Giants are in trouble. Daniel Jones sucks and shouldn't even be on the roster, but what's the benefit of a team leader knocking the QB's contract?
And there's a second factor: Thibodeaux is wrong. Barkley shouldn't have been paid. He shouldn't be on the roster either; he isn't even worth the franchise tag he got.
I agree that in the vast majority of cases players shouldn’t comment on their teammates contracts.
But I reacted to Thibs comments positively because of my Maranoia, that the ownership was so deluded about Jones that they need to hear him criticized by someone with credibility. The truth hurts sometimes.
what isn't being said? That's what you need to ask yourself. I think there is enough smoke to suspect the locker room isn't behind Jones and Mara influenced the signing. Is there evidence of these two things beyond a shadow of a doubt - no. Is there evidence beyond a reasonable doubt - for some it might be close. But this stinks. we might have a clueless owner, an unhappy locker room, and an inept QB. Joe Schoen has his work cut out for him if he is to prove he is anything but an empty suit.
It's pick your poison with these two. Neither should have been paid, and neither should still be with this organization. Both are relics of a miserably failed front office who had no idea how to identify talent.
You could feel the tide turning towards Tyrod Taylor after the WSH game. I think Schoen knows he needs to bring in a legit QB.
You might want to see his full quote....it looks like you may have jumped the gun with your conclusion:
“I believe in Daniel Jones. What I'm mad about is that Saquon – because if you look at the game, the tape, Saquon was responsible for at least 30 percent of our explosive plays, talking about the year [2022] we won the playoff game. Ryan Dunleavy Twitter - ( New Window )
I wonder who was responsible for the other 70% of the explosive plays.
Like 11 mil for one season is an affront to someone's ego. The Giants did offer SB a contract and he turned it down. The Golladay dead cap money played a role in all of this and if SB didn't have a cow..he would have been paid this offseason. I don't think SB will be on the team this year with all that has transpired.
But KT should stfu. That was wildly immature and places unneeded attention to this. He's entitled to his opinion but tell SB and leave it at that. I'm starting to wonder about this young man. He loves media attention.
Whether you think he is right or not is not important. He should know that you don't feed the media inflammatory stuff. He has some growing up to do.
It's amazing, I remember many on this board criticizing SB for not accepting a good offer, and how running backs value was in the dumps. Now, because KT, a player who should be concerned with improving his play, makes a comment, that appears to be a knock-on DJ, all of a sudden, the DJHC (Daniel Jones Hate Club) people, have suddenly become SB fans because they see this as an opportunity to continue their assault on DJ.
It's pick your poison with these two. Neither should have been paid, and neither should still be with this organization. Both are relics of a miserably failed front office who had no idea how to identify talent.
It's amazing, I remember many on this board criticizing SB for not accepting a good offer, and how running backs value was in the dumps. Now, because KT, a player who should be concerned with improving his play, makes a comment, that appears to be a knock-on DJ, all of a sudden, the DJHC (Daniel Jones Hate Club) people, have suddenly become SB fans because they see this as an opportunity to continue their assault on DJ.
Swing and a miss.
With all due respect, whether you agree with KT or not
he should have kept his trap shut and not said this publicly. This only causes more problems and turmoil on the team. This is the kind of shit that can also end up pressuring the team to make an emotional decision as opposed to a football/business decision.
RE: With all due respect, whether you agree with KT or not
he should have kept his trap shut and not said this publicly. This only causes more problems and turmoil on the team. This is the kind of shit that can also end up pressuring the team to make an emotional decision as opposed to a football/business decision.
Agree - no value, rationale, justification for venting it in a medium/way where anyone with a brain knows it goes public and creates unnecessary problems to deal with, regardless of ones interpretation.
Guess Kayvon also spoke highly on Bobby Okereke. How he's been a terrific leader and helped him grow (yeah).
But these athletes - does Kayvon realize if the Giants paid Barkley and had to tag Jones, the Giants wouldn't have been in position to sign Okereke? He's a top 3 player in my mind (Lawrence, Thomas then Okereke) and was a smash hit of a signing by Schoen. They were in a bad situation cap wise going into 2022 and had a lot of decisions to make. Tagging Jones $35M or whatever it was, was not idealistic.
The big question is, going forward, would Schoen be willing to admit his mistake giving Jones so much money and he's sustained another serious neck injury, to add a high draft choice to possibly become the long term answer at QB. That means no restructuring of Jones' contract this year. Leave it alone. But what will Schoen do? It is a big year for Daboll but it is for Joe as well.
It's amazing, I remember many on this board criticizing SB for not accepting a good offer, and how running backs value was in the dumps. Now, because KT, a player who should be concerned with improving his play, makes a comment, that appears to be a knock-on DJ, all of a sudden, the DJHC (Daniel Jones Hate Club) people, have suddenly become SB fans because they see this as an opportunity to continue their assault on DJ.
There is no Daniel Jones Hate Club. There are only fans who are tired of losing.
Guess Kayvon also spoke highly on Bobby Okereke. How he's been a terrific leader and helped him grow (yeah).
But these athletes - does Kayvon realize if the Giants paid Barkley and had to tag Jones, the Giants wouldn't have been in position to sign Okereke? He's a top 3 player in my mind (Lawrence, Thomas then Okereke) and was a smash hit of a signing by Schoen. They were in a bad situation cap wise going into 2022 and had a lot of decisions to make. Tagging Jones $35M or whatever it was, was not idealistic.
The big question is, going forward, would Schoen be willing to admit his mistake giving Jones so much money and he's sustained another serious neck injury, to add a high draft choice to possibly become the long term answer at QB. That means no restructuring of Jones' contract this year. Leave it alone. But what will Schoen do? It is a big year for Daboll but it is for Joe as well.
On the flip side, though, they wouldn't be forced to have Jones on the roster this upcoming season.
I love Okereke and I'm excited to see what happens next season with a good draft and FA pull. But, they could have won 6 games without him and then signed a big time FA LB this off season.
does Kayvon realize if the Giants paid Barkley and had to tag Jones, the Giants wouldn't have been in position to sign Okereke?
That's not entirely true. They could have not traded for Waller, for example, or not signed Parris Campbell (either of them ultimately had roughly the same 2023 cap number as Okereke), and/or treated Golladay as a June 1 release, which would have carried $6.8M on the books as dead money into this year, but that would still be less than DJ's cap hit in 2024. And that's without considering what Barkley's 2023 cap hit would have looked like on a multi-year deal with bonus amortization, vs. having him on the tag.
The way that the Giants handled it did result in additional flexibility, but they wasted a lot of that on Waller and Campbell, along with taking their medicine on Golladay all at once (rather than splitting it as a June 1 release) and keeping Barkley year-to-year.
A locker room with good leadership probably doesn't have this come out at all.
What if Thibs IS a locker room leader? He has a big personality and is probably the most famous guy on the defense.
Then he's setting a terrible example by putting his opinion above the concept of not creating bullshit in the media. Why is he talking about someone else's money? When is that ever a good idea? It's incredibly poor judgment.
RE: No one understands the cap. They's why the league pays high salaries
I'm Gen X, but at the cusp of boomer. I don't think it's a big deal. People have the right to say what they think and feel. Even big time athletes. Some people have the right to get upset, as we see here. I honestly don't care what KT says about what the Giants should or shouldn't do. But I think it provides a peek into the mood in the locker room.
I'm Gen X, but at the cusp of boomer. I don't think it's a big deal. People have the right to say what they think and feel. Even big time athletes. Some people have the right to get upset, as we see here. I honestly don't care what KT says about what the Giants should or shouldn't do. But I think it provides a peek into the mood in the locker room.
They obviously signed and had every intention to sign a WR to replace Wan'Dale as insurance. And it wasn't as if Campbell was overly expensive given his numbers last year and age. It didn't work out, it sucks, but lots of people on BBI were excited to see how Daboll and Kafka employs a kid with 4.3 speed.
Getting Waller and his contract was not seen as a negative whatsoever either. In fact prior to it being reworked, he was an easy cut in case they wanted to move on.
Point is, important signings like Okereke and re-signing Thomas and Lawrence also had significant timing due to Jones' cap hit being so much less.
We all know how attached the Giants brass is to Saquon. We’ve also seen them make stupid decisions based on these attachments and emotion. If the locker room is going to start ramping up on Barkleys behalf, I’m petrified that this could influence the teams decision on Barkley. My initial thoughts have been they would finally move on from him. But I’m not putting anything past this team when it comes to a popular player that is beloved in the locker room and by the owner.
I’m not a big Maranoia guy but if this regime is at all on the fence with Barkley, players speaking out publicly could absolutely influence the decision makers that have made too many decisions based on their heart instead of their heads
Now the Giants are sitting with the 6th pick in front of a QB heavy draft, yet thanks to Mara, they are committed to a faulty QB with zero talent.
Saquon Barkley has been a team player for his entire career, and he is still one of the best RB's in the entire NFL. I know all of the other BBI "experts" want to bash Saquon and say that the position of RB is being phased out of the NFL, but which ever team signs SB will enhance their offence by his presence, because he's still a significant weapon in the backfield.
Now the Giants are sitting with the 6th pick in front of a QB heavy draft, yet thanks to Mara, they are committed to a faulty QB with zero talent.
Saquon Barkley has been a team player for his entire career, and he is still one of the best RB's in the entire NFL. I know all of the other BBI "experts" want to bash Saquon and say that the position of RB is being phased out of the NFL, but which ever team signs SB will enhance their offence by his presence, because he's still a significant weapon in the backfield.
So you have firsthand knowledge that Mara went into Schoen’s office and made that demand?
Interesting….please share more
Zero accuracy….LOL😂😂😂
There are many valid criticisms of Jones….not being accurate is not one of them
Thomas am I incorrect?
Nothing wrong with adding a little humor
Not meant to offend
If only there was a traceable pattern.
Plagiarizer.
;)
Stating that Jones has zero accuracy is obviously hyperbole but saying he is below avg in accuracy for an NFL QB seems pretty obvious and clear.
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Thomas am I incorrect?
Nothing wrong with adding a little humor
Not meant to offend
Of course not. You do you.
Stating that Jones has zero accuracy is obviously hyperbole but saying he is below avg in accuracy for an NFL QB seems pretty obvious and clear.
I wouldn’t say he below average at all
Until this past year….deep ball accuracy was pretty good….this year it was off
When his first read is there…accuracy is pretty good
Issue comes when his first read is taken away
Nope. Barkley should on dancing with the Stars.
Reminds me too much of Ron no gain Dayne
^^ right here is why players and coaches believe most fans are stupid.
Owners know that for a fact because no matter what they do or how bad the team is... fans keep coming back for more
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"There are many valid criticisms of Jones….not being accurate is not one of them”
Stating that Jones has zero accuracy is obviously hyperbole but saying he is below avg in accuracy for an NFL QB seems pretty obvious and clear.
I wouldn’t say he below average at all
Until this past year….deep ball accuracy was pretty good….this year it was off
When his first read is there…accuracy is pretty good
Issue comes when his first read is taken away
Jones' accuracy is subpar. He has terrible touch, can't throw a fade to save his life, and he always botches throws with important leverage points (wrong side/wrong placement). This is why you never see Jones throw contested catch balls, he can't do it well. If we get Odunze it will be a wasted pick if Jones is the QB. The only reason Jones has decent completion numbers is he was the very bottom of the league in Y/A, and led the league two years running in throws behind the LOS (2021/2022). There is almost no case that Jones is an accurate QB and it is one of his many problems.
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"There are many valid criticisms of Jones….not being accurate is not one of them”
Stating that Jones has zero accuracy is obviously hyperbole but saying he is below avg in accuracy for an NFL QB seems pretty obvious and clear.
I wouldn’t say he below average at all
Until this past year….deep ball accuracy was pretty good….this year it was off
When his first read is there…accuracy is pretty good
Issue comes when his first read is taken away
Jones' accuracy is subpar. He has terrible touch, can't throw a fade to save his life, and he always botches throws with important leverage points (wrong side/wrong placement). This is why you never see Jones throw contested catch balls, he can't do it well. If we get Odunze it will be a wasted pick if Jones is the QB. The only reason Jones has decent completion numbers is he was the very bottom of the league in Y/A, and led the league two years running in throws behind the LOS (2021/2022). There is almost no case that Jones is an accurate QB and it is one of his many problems.
Spot on. Absolutely correct.
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"There are many valid criticisms of Jones….not being accurate is not one of them”
Stating that Jones has zero accuracy is obviously hyperbole but saying he is below avg in accuracy for an NFL QB seems pretty obvious and clear.
I wouldn’t say he below average at all
Until this past year….deep ball accuracy was pretty good….this year it was off
When his first read is there…accuracy is pretty good
Issue comes when his first read is taken away
Jones' accuracy is subpar. He has terrible touch, can't throw a fade to save his life, and he always botches throws with important leverage points (wrong side/wrong placement). This is why you never see Jones throw contested catch balls, he can't do it well. If we get Odunze it will be a wasted pick if Jones is the QB. The only reason Jones has decent completion numbers is he was the very bottom of the league in Y/A, and led the league two years running in throws behind the LOS (2021/2022). There is almost no case that Jones is an accurate QB and it is one of his many problems.
Yea ok
Maybe you can tell all of us how Barkley got shafted again or that you think of
John Mara when watching the games
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Nope. Barkley should on dancing with the Stars.
Reminds me too much of Ron no gain Dayne
^^ right here is why players and coaches believe most fans are stupid.
Owners know that for a fact because no matter what they do or how bad the team is... fans keep coming back for more
They sure do! 🙄
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A locker room with good leadership probably doesn't have this come out at all.
What if Thibs IS a locker room leader? He has a big personality and is probably the most famous guy on the defense.
Then the Giants are in trouble. Daniel Jones sucks and shouldn't even be on the roster, but what's the benefit of a team leader knocking the QB's contract?
And there's a second factor: Thibodeaux is wrong. Barkley shouldn't have been paid. He shouldn't be on the roster either; he isn't even worth the franchise tag he got.
God damn this Giants team has been unlikable dogshit for a long time now.
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Nope. Barkley should on dancing with the Stars.
Reminds me too much of Ron no gain Dayne
^^ right here is why players and coaches believe most fans are stupid.
Owners know that for a fact because no matter what they do or how bad the team is... fans keep coming back for more
This "Barkley runs soft" mantra is crap, he does not and all the players know it. He routinely runs over people. What is he supposed to do when their is no hole because our OL screws up, run into the butt of his OL, or maybe the gut of the DL Player? Like anyone else he tries to find a place to go. Somehow this is dancing to uninformed people. When the play calls for getting a few yards, like a 3rd and 2, he always puts his head down and pushes the pile. Its like someone said something in 2019, and people just keep regurgitating this crap. Guess what, when Derrick Henry has no blocking he got 12 yards a few games this season. He is the poster guy for tough yards. Its about the OL.
Stating that Jones has zero accuracy is obviously hyperbole but saying he is below avg in accuracy for an NFL QB seems pretty obvious and clear.
Jones has consistently been near the bottom 25% of the league in YPA, which has inflated his accuracy%.
Once both are gone, the better it will be.
I wouldn’t say he below average at all
Until this past year….deep ball accuracy was pretty good….this year it was off
When his first read is there…accuracy is pretty good
Issue comes when his first read is taken away
If you're only accurate when everything goes according to script, you're not accurate.
I would add that you can be inaccurate and still complete passes in that scenario, but you won't get much YAC.
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A locker room with good leadership probably doesn't have this come out at all.
What if Thibs IS a locker room leader? He has a big personality and is probably the most famous guy on the defense.
Then the Giants are in trouble. Daniel Jones sucks and shouldn't even be on the roster, but what's the benefit of a team leader knocking the QB's contract?
And there's a second factor: Thibodeaux is wrong. Barkley shouldn't have been paid. He shouldn't be on the roster either; he isn't even worth the franchise tag he got.
I agree that in the vast majority of cases players shouldn’t comment on their teammates contracts.
But I reacted to Thibs comments positively because of my Maranoia, that the ownership was so deluded about Jones that they need to hear him criticized by someone with credibility. The truth hurts sometimes.
Once both are gone, the better it will be.
Mic drop!
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You could feel the tide turning towards Tyrod Taylor after the WSH game. I think Schoen knows he needs to bring in a legit QB.
You might want to see his full quote....it looks like you may have jumped the gun with your conclusion:
“I believe in Daniel Jones. What I'm mad about is that Saquon – because if you look at the game, the tape, Saquon was responsible for at least 30 percent of our explosive plays, talking about the year [2022] we won the playoff game. Ryan Dunleavy Twitter - ( New Window )
I wonder who was responsible for the other 70% of the explosive plays.
Whether you think he is right or not is not important. He should know that you don't feed the media inflammatory stuff. He has some growing up to do.
Once both are gone, the better it will be.
Amen brother!
Swing and a miss.
Agree - no value, rationale, justification for venting it in a medium/way where anyone with a brain knows it goes public and creates unnecessary problems to deal with, regardless of ones interpretation.
But these athletes - does Kayvon realize if the Giants paid Barkley and had to tag Jones, the Giants wouldn't have been in position to sign Okereke? He's a top 3 player in my mind (Lawrence, Thomas then Okereke) and was a smash hit of a signing by Schoen. They were in a bad situation cap wise going into 2022 and had a lot of decisions to make. Tagging Jones $35M or whatever it was, was not idealistic.
The big question is, going forward, would Schoen be willing to admit his mistake giving Jones so much money and he's sustained another serious neck injury, to add a high draft choice to possibly become the long term answer at QB. That means no restructuring of Jones' contract this year. Leave it alone. But what will Schoen do? It is a big year for Daboll but it is for Joe as well.
There is no Daniel Jones Hate Club. There are only fans who are tired of losing.
But these athletes - does Kayvon realize if the Giants paid Barkley and had to tag Jones, the Giants wouldn't have been in position to sign Okereke? He's a top 3 player in my mind (Lawrence, Thomas then Okereke) and was a smash hit of a signing by Schoen. They were in a bad situation cap wise going into 2022 and had a lot of decisions to make. Tagging Jones $35M or whatever it was, was not idealistic.
The big question is, going forward, would Schoen be willing to admit his mistake giving Jones so much money and he's sustained another serious neck injury, to add a high draft choice to possibly become the long term answer at QB. That means no restructuring of Jones' contract this year. Leave it alone. But what will Schoen do? It is a big year for Daboll but it is for Joe as well.
I love Okereke and I'm excited to see what happens next season with a good draft and FA pull. But, they could have won 6 games without him and then signed a big time FA LB this off season.
That's not entirely true. They could have not traded for Waller, for example, or not signed Parris Campbell (either of them ultimately had roughly the same 2023 cap number as Okereke), and/or treated Golladay as a June 1 release, which would have carried $6.8M on the books as dead money into this year, but that would still be less than DJ's cap hit in 2024. And that's without considering what Barkley's 2023 cap hit would have looked like on a multi-year deal with bonus amortization, vs. having him on the tag.
The way that the Giants handled it did result in additional flexibility, but they wasted a lot of that on Waller and Campbell, along with taking their medicine on Golladay all at once (rather than splitting it as a June 1 release) and keeping Barkley year-to-year.
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A locker room with good leadership probably doesn't have this come out at all.
What if Thibs IS a locker room leader? He has a big personality and is probably the most famous guy on the defense.
Then he's setting a terrible example by putting his opinion above the concept of not creating bullshit in the media. Why is he talking about someone else's money? When is that ever a good idea? It's incredibly poor judgment.
I beg to differ. djm does.
According to him, the cap is a mirage and teams can spend like it's the Saudi PIF...
Gen Z gets that it's nbd.
Gen Z gets that it's nbd.
I'm Gen X, but at the cusp of boomer. I don't think it's a big deal. People have the right to say what they think and feel. Even big time athletes. Some people have the right to get upset, as we see here. I honestly don't care what KT says about what the Giants should or shouldn't do. But I think it provides a peek into the mood in the locker room.
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the boomers will flip.
Gen Z gets that it's nbd.
I'm Gen X, but at the cusp of boomer. I don't think it's a big deal. People have the right to say what they think and feel. Even big time athletes. Some people have the right to get upset, as we see here. I honestly don't care what KT says about what the Giants should or shouldn't do. But I think it provides a peek into the mood in the locker room.
I'm 50
Getting Waller and his contract was not seen as a negative whatsoever either. In fact prior to it being reworked, he was an easy cut in case they wanted to move on.
Point is, important signings like Okereke and re-signing Thomas and Lawrence also had significant timing due to Jones' cap hit being so much less.
I’m not a big Maranoia guy but if this regime is at all on the fence with Barkley, players speaking out publicly could absolutely influence the decision makers that have made too many decisions based on their heart instead of their heads