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Matt Waldman does Caleb Williams film room

Manhattan : 1/29/2024 6:55 pm
Waldman, who many respect, has Williams as his 2024 QB1, by far. This film room, with Mark Schofield, goes over good and bad. They do love him as a rare, potential franchise-altering talent, who has not only a huge ceiling, but a high floor as well.

Some of the QBs who come up are Mahomes, Rodgers, Tarkenton, Lamar (athleticism)

Some of the traits discussed:

rare creative ability
supreme athleticism
elite arm talent, top-5 NFL
Mahomes-like arm angle ability
good in the pocket
great release
excellent ball placement
competitive toughness

This last trait is crucial to some of the criticisms of Williams. He's a gamer. They show that he is great at hanging in the pocket and working to give his receivers time to get open. He doesn't give up and take off like so many running QBs. And he has the arm talent to stick throws everywhere on the field.

It would be great if Schoen could move up and put us in position to add Caleb Williams.

Matt Waldman's RSP Film Room: QB Caleb Williams, USC - ( New Window )
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/29/2024 6:58 pm : link
Chicago's taking him.
Caleb might  
bronxboy : 1/29/2024 7:06 pm : link
be off the Giants board with "character" issues. He cries.
If he's all that...  
Milton : 1/29/2024 7:21 pm : link
Chicago will take him. They'd be crazy not to.
Anywhere But Washington  
MojoEd : 1/29/2024 7:23 pm : link
Please!
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christian : 1/29/2024 7:30 pm : link
You can't bet your career on Fields, when a prospect like Williams is available.

Take Williams, take Nabers, and go get to work.
If he reaches that high floor,  
gridirony : 1/29/2024 7:42 pm : link
it basically means bust.
sounds like a great fit for….  
morrison40 : 1/29/2024 7:54 pm : link
Chicago as in, they are not trading that pick .
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Manhattan : 1/29/2024 7:55 pm : link
In comment 16383146 christian said:
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You can't bet your career on Fields, when a prospect like Williams is available.

Take Williams, take Nabers, and go get to work.


You are right. But still have a glimmer of hope until it's officially squashed.
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christian : 1/29/2024 8:02 pm : link
In comment 16383164 Manhattan said:
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You can't bet your career on Fields, when a prospect like Williams is available.

Take Williams, take Nabers, and go get to work.

You are right. But still have a glimmer of hope until it's officially squashed.


I think it would take No. 6, both 2s, and next year's no. 1 to get to the top of the draft. What do you think?
I'd be surprised if the Bears don't pick him  
JonC : 1/29/2024 8:04 pm : link
He's got franchise-changer upside talent and presence.
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Sammo85 : 1/29/2024 8:09 pm : link
In comment 16383146 christian said:
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You can't bet your career on Fields, when a prospect like Williams is available.

Take Williams, take Nabers, and go get to work.


Don’t see Nabers making it to their second pick.
I prefer Odunze  
JonC : 1/29/2024 8:10 pm : link
but Nabers skillet and YAC ability could be viewed as a better fit for NYG at #6.
RE: I'd be surprised if the Bears don't pick him  
Sammo85 : 1/29/2024 8:11 pm : link
In comment 16383179 JonC said:
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He's got franchise-changer upside talent and presence.


He does. I love him immensely. But I won’t deny even as big a fan as I am and wanting him on Giants, that there is huge implosion potential too with him.
RE: I prefer Odunze  
Rjanyg : 1/29/2024 8:21 pm : link
In comment 16383189 JonC said:
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but Nabers skillet and YAC ability could be viewed as a better fit for NYG at #6.


Totally agree. I hear he is a really good kid too.
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Manhattan : 1/29/2024 8:25 pm : link
In comment 16383175 christian said:
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In comment 16383164 Manhattan said:


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You can't bet your career on Fields, when a prospect like Williams is available.

Take Williams, take Nabers, and go get to work.

You are right. But still have a glimmer of hope until it's officially squashed.



I think it would take No. 6, both 2s, and next year's no. 1 to get to the top of the draft. What do you think?


Yes. That seems like a baseline. Might we have to sweeten a little? Add a third or a fourth, maybe. I'd do it.
RE: I prefer Odunze  
Manhattan : 1/29/2024 8:27 pm : link
In comment 16383189 JonC said:
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but Nabers skillet and YAC ability could be viewed as a better fit for NYG at #6.


It does seem as though one of Nabers, Odunze or Bowers would be there for Chicago's 2nd pick. Williams plus one of those playmakers would be a great haul for them, or the second/third best tackle.
RE: I'd be surprised if the Bears don't pick him  
BillT : 1/29/2024 8:50 pm : link
In comment 16383179 JonC said:
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He's got franchise-changer upside talent and presence.

Seems a no brainer.
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Ira : 1/29/2024 9:18 pm : link
In comment 16383175 christian said:
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In comment 16383164 Manhattan said:


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You can't bet your career on Fields, when a prospect like Williams is available.

Take Williams, take Nabers, and go get to work.

You are right. But still have a glimmer of hope until it's officially squashed.



I think it would take No. 6, both 2s, and next year's no. 1 to get to the top of the draft. What do you think?


I think it would take at least that, probably more.
RE: RE: I'd be surprised if the Bears don't pick him  
Johnny5 : 1/29/2024 9:54 pm : link
In comment 16383228 BillT said:
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In comment 16383179 JonC said:


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He's got franchise-changer upside talent and presence.


Seems a no brainer.

I'll be shocked if they don't pick a QB, but yeah especially him. He does look different than any of the other guys coming out at QB to me. I can totally see the Mahomes and Rodgers (well, and also the Jeff George lol) comparisons with him in those clips they use.
He’s the best player in the draft  
JT039 : 1/29/2024 10:11 pm : link
Some of the plays he made this year at USC could only be made by other QB. And he’s playing in the Super Bowl this year.
Fortunately, He'll Likely Be Gone Way Before The Giants Pick  
Trainmaster : 1/29/2024 10:41 pm : link
A highly touted USC quarterback; what could possibly go wrong?

Smart, tough and dependable? Are we going for just 2 out of 3?


8 fumbles this year  
allstarjim : 1/30/2024 12:10 am : link
Didn't watch the video, but he has a ball security issue.
RE: I prefer Odunze  
Pete from Woodstock : 1/30/2024 6:20 am : link
In comment 16383189 JonC said:
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but Nabers skillet and YAC ability could be viewed as a better fit for NYG at #6.


I think Odunze is going to be special as well.
If CW is so goooood....  
BronxBombers : 1/30/2024 8:20 am : link
then why couldnt he get 8 wins at USC???

Most of the good ones can lead their teams to 10 wins, this guy is supposed to be "generational" yet, 8 wins in a trash conference?

I just dont see it, I hope Washington does grab him, another short QB who struggles to win...
Hopefully Chicago has some scouts  
Mike from Ohio : 1/30/2024 8:42 am : link
that are horribly insecure in their masculinity like many posters on this site and don't want him because he cried. It is a long shot, but a few of those clowns are still around.
If the Bears are really selling  
logman : 1/30/2024 8:46 am : link
the pick, they are gonna get a massive haul for it.
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djm : 1/30/2024 2:26 pm : link
In comment 16383118 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Chicago's taking him.


From all accounts and all sources that know QBs, not just fans or talkies who think they know QBs but real actual scouts or former scouts, Williams is the most likely QB in this draft to meet expectations. He's the best prospect. Sure there could be another QB or two that come close and sure there are scouts out there that might like Maye or Daniels even more, but the consensus will side with Williams. He's the safest pick, and that's not meant to imply his floor is higher or whatever other BS people like to conjure up to hedge things. WIlliams simply has the best skills and looks like the guy who can run an NFL offense.

The BEars are our only hope if you want NYG to get Williams. Only way we get him is via the trade up. Only team that would trade away from Williams is the BEars. He likely won't get past 1. HE definitely won't get past 3.

What is stopping the Steelers from doing something like this?  
kelsto811 : 1/30/2024 7:09 pm : link


Not even just them, I mean I can see some team giving the house to move up. Should the Bears stay put??
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