Biggest Giants First Round Busts

Kadarius Toney by a wide margin.

I don't know if he was the worst, but he was my earliest memory of a really bad one.

Especially recently. Eli apple, ereck flowers, toney...ughh

But Eli Apple still sucks too

Forgot Flowers…. Reason why lol

Woooof

David Wilson, D’andre Baker

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over the last twenty years. Giving your two SB MVP QB who is a pocket passer a LT who stinks is not very smart.

You have Peters, Smith and Williams in the NFCE and the Giants are trotting out Flowers.

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In comment 16387770 Lines of Scrimmage said:

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over the last twenty years. Giving your two SB MVP QB who is a pocket passer a LT who stinks is not very smart. You have Peters, Smith and Williams in the NFCE and the Giants are trotting out Flowers.

Funny enough. For all the crap Gettleman gets, cutting Flowers midseason for being a lazy ass and poor play is a beautiful thing.

All after Reese ignored requests from better players to join up and not trying to get better at the position. Let's leave Flowers in to ruin offenses.

The top ten in the Super Bowl Era in no particular order:

Rocky Thompson
John Hicks
Gordon King
Thomas Lewis
Cedric Jones
Ron Dayne
Ereck Flowers
Eli Apple
Deandre Baker
Kadarius Toney

taking Tucker Frederickson with Dick Butkis and Gayle Sayers on the board left a mark on the franchise.

frederickson never lived up to his college billing due to injury.

Imagine having Butkis and LT in Giants history?

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Too many to name.

I have made it very clear where I stand with Reese. Let's just say it went from "In Reese we trust" to "In Reese the LOS destructs" pretty quickly into his tenure.

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Derrick Brown for sure. Never showed anything and they admitted he wasn’t good blocker or receiver when the drafted him. WTF! Adding Neil here is just dumb.

the bum never played a down for us.

I'll personally never forgive Coughlin for Ereck "Breath of fresh air" Flowers.

But I’ll go with Flowers or Apple since in addition to be bad picks/players, they were just bad dudes. And I guess the tie breaker goes to Apple since we drafted his Mom too and she might have been worse…

In comment 16387778 John Bravo said:

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taking Tucker Frederickson with Dick Butkis and Gayle Sayers on the board left a mark on the franchise. frederickson never lived up to his college billing due to injury. Imagine having Butkis and LT in Giants history?

Worst choice but not the biggest bust.

Notre Dame. He never gained 100 yards for his career.

Before a lot of folks' here time --but Looney's selection was the doozy of all time --he didn't last out training camp! Aptly named.

couldn't block and fumbled a lot.

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Before a lot of folks' here time --but Looney's selection was the doozy of all time --he didn't last out training camp! Aptly named.

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bust because his career was cut short due to injury but David Wilson. Either way, just a wasted first round pick.

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Kadarius Toney by a wide margin.

He was pick #20 and there was quite a bit of talk at the time that he got taken way too early. Relative to expectations I think he's far from the biggest bust.

I haven’t seen his name mentioned, but William Joseph didn’t set the NFL on fire.

Wasn't he like the 5th or 6th overall pick, and a panic pick because the Giants stupidly assumed that they knew how the previous picks would turn out? I was young at the time, so I may not have the facts completely straight.

By comparison, David Wilson was the 32nd pick and injuries derailed his career. Cedric Jones just kinda sucked. And he pronounced his name Ceedrick, iirc, which also is weird.

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The top ten in the Super Bowl Era in no particular order: Rocky Thompson John Hicks Gordon King Thomas Lewis Cedric Jones Ron Dayne Ereck Flowers Eli Apple Deandre Baker Kadarius Toney

Good list, but Derek Brown was a bigger bust that all of them

I think the Giants thought Lawrence Phillips was going to go before 5, but he didn’t.

Classic planning.

In comment 16387842 Mike from SI said:

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Wasn't he like the 5th or 6th overall pick, and a panic pick because the Giants stupidly assumed that they knew how the previous picks would turn out? I was young at the time, so I may not have the facts completely straight. By comparison, David Wilson was the 32nd pick and injuries derailed his career. Cedric Jones just kinda sucked. And he pronounced his name Ceedrick, iirc, which also is weird.

Yes, how could I have forgotten about him. And Giants didn’t know he was blind in one eye.

In comment 16387842 Mike from SI said:

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Wasn't he like the 5th or 6th overall pick, and a panic pick because the Giants stupidly assumed that they knew how the previous picks would turn out? I was young at the time, so I may not have the facts completely straight.

yeah he was a horrible pick. Especially considering he was blind on one eye. This is not the fucking special olympics.

In comment 16387844 mfsd said:

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In comment 16387776 The Mike said: Quote: The top ten in the Super Bowl Era in no particular order: Rocky Thompson John Hicks Gordon King Thomas Lewis Cedric Jones Ron Dayne Ereck Flowers Eli Apple Deandre Baker Kadarius Toney Good list, but Derek Brown was a bigger bust that all of them

No doubt. I just forgot him!

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Before a lot of folks' here time --but Looney's selection was the doozy of all time --he didn't last out training camp! Aptly named.

+1

Can't have a thread like this without making mention of Daniel Jones at #6 overall. Other than the tail end of his rookie year and a solid playoff game vs the Vikings, he hasn't come close to living up to his expectations. Problems with ball security, not sensing pressure in the pocket, missing open receivers, and now a notable injury history. That big second contract wasn't warranted. And now 1 yr into the 4 yr deal a majority of NY Giant fans want the GM to draft his replacement. That, by any definition, is a bust.

Had very clear red flags. The Giants were negligent in drafting him and Gettleman fired the scout who was responsible for unearthing this information. This pick was pure incompetence. They traded up if IIRC correctly.

There are a lot of other really deserving names on this list. While I really felt Flowers and Apple were flops they did stick around the league for a while, heck Apple still plays in the NFL.

Cedric Jones comes close but that was a different kind of incompetence, it happened more in the moment and ~ 20ish years before the Baker fiasco when information was much more readily available then in the 90's.

Flowers and Apple played a while in the league, bad picks, but if you play 5 or moore years in the league - I don't think your a total bust.

In comment 16387844 mfsd said:

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In comment 16387776 The Mike said: Quote: The top ten in the Super Bowl Era in no particular order: Rocky Thompson John Hicks Gordon King Thomas Lewis Cedric Jones Ron Dayne Ereck Flowers Eli Apple Deandre Baker Kadarius Toney Good list, but Derek Brown was a bigger bust that all of them

Also add Dave Young to this list. 2nd round draft pick in 1981, played 1 year for the Giants, 5 catches for 49 yards.

In comment 16387889 56goat said:

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In comment 16387844 mfsd said: Quote: In comment 16387776 The Mike said: Quote: The top ten in the Super Bowl Era in no particular order: Rocky Thompson John Hicks Gordon King Thomas Lewis Cedric Jones Ron Dayne Ereck Flowers Eli Apple Deandre Baker Kadarius Toney Good list, but Derek Brown was a bigger bust that all of them Also add Dave Young to this list. 2nd round draft pick in 1981, played 1 year for the Giants, 5 catches for 49 yards.

Sorry, missed the 1st round part.

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Evan Neal , Hope I’m wrong

Followed by
Wilson
Eli Apple
DeAndre Baker
Toney

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Followed by Wilson Eli Apple DeAndre Baker Toney

That's David Wilson, rb from VA Tech (just to be exact)

Lots to choose from. I remember Bunch but not why he busted. I remember the NYG fan mag having Bunch, Khanavis McGee and Ed McCaffrey on the cover with a line re “reloading”. Easy Ed was the one hit they actually missed on.

Curious how you are a bust by getting injured and having your career end

Bust is for people who can’t play

Flowers played 105 NFL games and was better player after he left

Apple is still playing and has played more games than Bosa, Stanley and Conklin who were drafted ahead of him

C. Jones, W. Joseph, T. Lewis, D. Brown were all much worse

Dwayne because of expectations

were an absolute shitshow:

90 - Rodney Hampton
91 - Jarrod Bunch
92 - Derek Brown
93 - N/A
94 - Thomas Lewis
95 - Tyrone Wheatley
96 - Cedric Jones
97 - Ike Hilliard
98 - Shaun Williams
99 - Luke Petitgout
00 - Ron Dayne

the fact that we fielded a competitive team in 2000 is a miracle.

Hilliard was a workhorse

Jones just won’t deliver. Daniels, LSU, period.

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Agree. I think he played d back in college and the Giants drafted him to play receiver! A first round pick to convert the guy from d back to receiver if I recall it correctly.

Larry Jacobsen, the DT he was another bust

He was supplemental but still considered around 1 pick.

Clearly Joe Don Looney is the worst of all time. But we have had some doozies in the past 30 years.

Regarding Jarrod Bunch. He actually looked good, but was derailed by injuries.

In comment 16387938 The Jake said:
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90 - Rodney Hampton

Rodney Hampton and Luke P were studs!

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He was supplemental but still considered around 1 pick. Clearly Joe Don Looney is the worst of all time. But we have had some doozies in the past 30 years. Regarding Jarrod Bunch. He actually looked good, but was derailed by injuries.

More on Bunch
In 1992 (his 2nd year) he was sharing duties with Rodney Hampton and he gained 501 yards on 104 caries. He was named offensive player of the year for the Giants, over Rodney Hampton.

He was a 250 pound RB at a time when players were smaller. He ran downhill and packed a punch. Badly tore all the the ligaments in his knee, requiring multiple surgeries. He tried but was never able to regain his former level.

Many of the players mentioned weren't busts they were disappointments who didn't live up to their potential or had bad injuries. Busts
just can't play

1. Derek Brown - no one else is even close except
2. Joe Don Looney - and
3. Kadarius Toney

The worst of the rest - whoever you think it is, was far better than any of these three total and complete losers.

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Not 1st-round worthy, but he was a solid receiver for several years.

but then had at least a couple of productive seasons with the Raiders.

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Before a lot of folks' here time --but Looney's selection was the doozy of all time --he didn't last out training camp! Aptly named.

Yeah he might be one of the biggest busts in history.

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Not 1st-round worthy, but he was a solid receiver for several years.

We'll never know what Ike Hilliard could've actually been since he took that career altering injury from a dirty hit so early in his career.

Derrick Brown and Thomas Lewis

1959 Lee Grosscup, QB, Utah and 1960 Lou Cordileone, DT, Clemson. Cordileone was traded the following year for Y.A.Tittle so all was not lost. Scouring over the draft lists there were some more "what could have been"--Ben Davidson in the 4th round 1961, Buck Buchanan, 19th round 1963, Matt Snell, 4th round 1964

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Boom!!! That what I came here to say! Best me to it! Wasn’t that the year we had two #1s and chose Larry Jacobson with the other????