Talk about a collective meltdown. You have these WWE fans going absolute apeshit because the Rock waltzed right in and took Cody's spot at Mania.
Personally, I find it hilarious. I mean I get why people like Cody so much and why they would disagree with this decision, but man, some fans are suicidal over this. It's like the "Leave Britney Alone" guy morphed into a fanbase.
Who knew we would be in a world where the Rock and Roman Reigns couldn't headline a WrestleMania together without people being pissed off about it.
Honestly, the way they could look at it, is Rock fights Reigns not for the title, but simply the honor of "Tribal Chief".
This way, you could actually book Rock winning and have the fallout from that continue on to Summerslam.
Cody can still win the title after Mania, and someone like Solo could then challenge Reigns and be made into a superstar while Reigns continues his existence as a part timer.
There's a lot of people thinking he's making power play and will use the Vince stuff as an excuse to push Triple H out and take full control of WWE as the face of it. His words about how his grandfather and father wouldn't believe "he's running things" was what he said the day he was named to the TKO board.
I think it makes sense to be honest. And I do think that might be what he's doing.
Can't see that happening. They unified Reins titles and created the heavyweight title just because Reins had his for so long.
There's a lot of people thinking he's making power play and will use the Vince stuff as an excuse to push Triple H out and take full control of WWE as the face of it. His words about how his grandfather and father wouldn't believe "he's running things" was what he said the day he was named to the TKO board.
I think it makes sense to be honest. And I do think that might be what he's doing.
I don't think he's pushing Hunter out. They've been together a lot recently. The Rock has been on Hunter's private jet on at least 3 occasions in the past month. They've been riding to & from the shows together. This is the closest I've ever seen them. So unless the Rock is planning on straight up stabbing Hunter in the back this would be shocking.
And whether coincidence or not Rock brings in his own TV people the week Kevin Dunn retires. Triple H or anyone else for that matter had any say in this.
Also if we believe Dave Metlzer anymore, he said the plan was still Cody/Roman for most of the week and it was Rock himself who pushed for the change with the backing of the TKO board. This makes it sound like it was done behind Triple H's back.
I guess time will tell. I do have a hard time believing Rock wants to run WWE on a day to day basis though.
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Rock is bringing in the former writer of Raw from the Attitude era who used to write his stuff. He's also bringing in his people on the TV side of things too.
There's a lot of people thinking he's making power play and will use the Vince stuff as an excuse to push Triple H out and take full control of WWE as the face of it. His words about how his grandfather and father wouldn't believe "he's running things" was what he said the day he was named to the TKO board.
I think it makes sense to be honest. And I do think that might be what he's doing.
I don't think he's pushing Hunter out. They've been together a lot recently. The Rock has been on Hunter's private jet on at least 3 occasions in the past month. They've been riding to & from the shows together. This is the closest I've ever seen them. So unless the Rock is planning on straight up stabbing Hunter in the back this would be shocking.
Wouldn't be the first time that he was a backstabbing scumbag POS
All you guys will still watch it. Place will be sold out and make a butt load of money.
Does it make sense that Cody won the Royal Rumble and then doesn't wrestle for the title? Absolutely, but Rollins and Punk got hurt and with Rock available, now was the time to do the match. Rock wrestles Roman for the Head of the Table match, Reigns keeps the title but loses that distinction. Then Cody gets him at SummerSlam, which puts Reigns past Hogan but also fulfills what Cody said about taking everything away from Reigns. Just my wishful thinking.
Although for the life of me, I can't understand why Cody is so popular?
Although for the life of me, I can't understand why Cody is so popular?
I think it's passion and that he seems like a genuinely good guy. I think up until a few years ago (when he was in AEW), people thought Cody was an egotistical, narcissistic nepo baby who really wanted to be a Hollywood actor/mainstream celebrity (but couldn't hack it) and who thought he was much better than he actually was.
Then he came back to WWE and: 1) The match he had with Rollins in the Cell with the torn pec was one of the gutsiest things wrestling fans had ever seen. I think that night changed a lot of people's (including myself) perspectives on him; 2) he kept his annoying (yet very hot) wife off of TV (she belongs NOWHERE near the wrestling business); 3)he became more a man of the people. He genuinely seems happy greeting and interacting with the fans. He signs autographs and stays longer than he has to to meet his fans.
And I think the whole "finishing my story" and "winning the title that my daddy never got" resonates with some people. I think 95% of his fans don't know who Dusty Rhodes is or why that's significant, but at least there's an emotional factor that people can believe.
I disagree with you. I think to a certain small percentage of the audience (like the diehard AEW and NJPW fans), the matches matter more than the promos and the rest. For the WWE and its fans, it's mostly about the characters and the stories. The matches are secondary, if not tertiary. It's like what someone said earlier: he and his daughter care about seeing Cody lift the belt. In general, WWE fans don't really care about the quality of the match; just the end-result and the ramifications.
In the WWE during the Vince McMahon era, it's always been about the sizzle, not the steak.
The stories matter for sure but they are really really corny. That’s tolerable if the wrestling is good but both are bad right now.
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and can actually wrestle. Since the stories are PG now the wrestling matters more IMO. The Rock and other average wrestlers got away with it because the stories were so awesome in the attitude era. Now it’s the opposite, Atleast for someone like me. The Royal Rumble was the worst display of actual wrestling I’ve ever seen.
I disagree with you. I think to a certain small percentage of the audience (like the diehard AEW and NJPW fans), the matches matter more than the promos and the rest. For the WWE and its fans, it's mostly about the characters and the stories. The matches are secondary, if not tertiary. It's like what someone said earlier: he and his daughter care about seeing Cody lift the belt. In general, WWE fans don't really care about the quality of the match; just the end-result and the ramifications.
In the WWE during the Vince McMahon era, it's always been about the sizzle, not the steak.
During the Attitude Era, the pre-taped backstage stuff and things like running over Vince's limo with a monster truck, Hogan crushing Takers bike with a semi, the comedy bits with Kurt Angle acting like a dork, Austin and Booker T feuding and destroying a store, etc etc etc were always WAY more entertaining then the matches themselves.
I liked his character much more as a heel during the late 90's when he was still fairly new still had hair and did all his gimmicks like The People's Eyebrow, "It doesn't matter what you think!" etc. After that he just got kid friendly and boring. His movies suck too, he's got little range as an actor and plays pretty much the same exact character in every role. His remake of Walking Tall was terrible.
I used to buy WWE PPV tickets and sell them for way more than I paid. You gonna sell yours?
Holy shit. I remember putting my Royal Rumble 2018 tickets up at like 4 in the morning that day for $100 more and they were gone by the time I got back from my walk, they were gone.
No way I was gonna go to that one in Philly, the week the Eagles were in the Super Bowl lol I think that was the first woman's royal rumble.
I've been digging Bayley lately. I don't find her face very much attractive but did she get more juicy or something?
(Also who cares about in-ring talent lol)
You must be an Nia Jax or Shayna Baszler fan, I presume? Lol
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amazing talent in the ring but man, I find her incredibly attractive.
I've been digging Bayley lately. I don't find her face very much attractive but did she get more juicy or something?
(Also who cares about in-ring talent lol)
New hair style maybe? But best of all Liv is back
In-ring talent is never something I watched pro wrestling for. I only noticed it became a thing in like 2005 or 2006. Maybe when everyone started to go after Cena?
I always watched wrestling for the silliness of it, the storyline telling and the characters. Then again, I haven't watched Raw or Smackdown weekly since like ... 2004?
It seems like none of you guys are ever happy with the product, which is fine. Quit watching them if it's that bad?
I don't understand this concept. Do you watch just to moan about how terrible everything is? Stepping away is a possibility.
In-ring talent is never something I watched pro wrestling for. I only noticed it became a thing in like 2005 or 2006. Maybe when everyone started to go after Cena?
I always watched wrestling for the silliness of it, the storyline telling and the characters. Then again, I haven't watched Raw or Smackdown weekly since like ... 2004?
It seems like none of you guys are ever happy with the product, which is fine. Quit watching them if it's that bad?
I don't understand this concept. Do you watch just to moan about how terrible everything is? Stepping away is a possibility.
I think it's kinda like posting on a thread to tell the others on the thread that you have no interest in the contents of the thread...
Think of it like the Football Giants...is stepping away an option?
And in a matter of less than a week, they turned the attention from Vince, losing Lesnar and Punk - to What will Cody do, and the Rock is scumbag. Absolutely brilliant on their part.
Rhodes is solid, I don’t think he’s “The Guy” like Reigns/Cena but really impressive how he’s been able to keep elevating himself throughout his career.
Really cool to see the womens division have actual stars. Rhea Ripley and Bianca Belair might just be the two best women I’ve ever seen in wrestling in terms of their overall package.
Totally off-topic but this whole story got me in a YouTube wormhole and I ended up watching Goldberg highlights lmao. I know that guy was considered a pretty trash “wrestler” in terms of movesets and technical stuff. But his strength was truly a sight to behold. Totally understand why he was such a star back then.
Also, that's football. It's not scripted and that is seasonal and 17 games in a year. Unless you're one of those guys. I'd love to hear your theories on how that's rigged.
I'm not a wrestling hater. If anything I'm sort of defending the booking.
I was just talking about that night the other night
I'm BALD! and I'm balder than EVER!
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Eric Biscoff is completely bald now and it's jarring to see lol
I'm BALD! and I'm balder than EVER!
Not taking a shot at bald men! I was just shocked to see it! lol
Yeah. "Stealing someone's moment" sounds like an ultimate heel move, no? Lol. It's almost as if the writers know taking a "WrestleMania moment" away from a guy who deserves it (or whatever) is gonna piss these expert, entitled fans off.
As if the Rock hasn't come back from Hollywood and acted as a heel for a short amount of time ... before?
Sounds as if this is all working.
Yeah. Didn't someone like Triple H or Batista come back and win the Rumble after being gone so long? Years ago? Then the fans were all mad that Daniel Bryan didn't win? I don't remember.
I'm saying the Rock (50 years old) coming back and stealing someone's thunder who should "finish the story" sounds like part of a WM storyline to me. I don't watch any more but judging by all your guys reaction, you sound as if the Rock coming back and stealing Cody's spotlight is making you guys upset.
I think that this is part of the growing storyline. WM ways ways away. Wrestling fans yelling about old guys not getting out of the way to make room for the new guys is as old as time. You'll all still watch no matter the outcome.
Sasha or Mercedes signed with the other company.
Fair enough. This works for me.
As I mentioned before, I don't care about in-ring shit. I think I'm just looking forward to The Rock and him on the mic and seeing what he has to say next.
My "pro wrestling" mind is still stuck in 1998, if you will. Lol. Never tuned in those days to look for 5 star matches.
I was looking forward to the Rock just because it would be nice to see a vet show everyone how mic work is done.
I think basically any match with Roman Reins sucks these days, so it doesn't matter who wrestles him, the Rock or Cody, it will probably be underwhelming. If that's the case I'd rather see the Rock.
However, I just can't see them pushing the Rock and the potential of having him get boo'd at WrestleMania. Why people are booing the Rock, I'll never understand.
My big question is if Punk doesn't get hurt, it's probably Rollins vs Punk and Cody vs Roman II. The Rock was always planning on facing his cousin for the right storyline, he said so in interviews, so you have to imagine there is a big swerve coming or something epic. I can't see the Rock coming back for a one off.
Maybe I'm just too old for this thing, but you're right. None of these new guys do it for me. I haven't watched wrestling since that COVID WrestleMania and I tuned into the Royal rumble only to see what would happen with CM Punk.
Only thing I remember about that "0 people" Mania is AJ Styles vs Taker and Orton vs Edge, and Gronk. Lol.
Maybe I'm just too old for this thing, but you're right. None of these new guys do it for me. I haven't watched wrestling since that COVID WrestleMania and I tuned into the Royal rumble only to see what would happen with CM Punk.
Only thing I remember about that "0 people" Mania is AJ Styles vs Taker and Orton vs Edge, and Gronk. Lol.
I still watch Raw and Smackdown pretty regularly; ironically it was Edge's return and his judgement day storyline that got me back into it. Judgement Day is probably one the best things they have done in a while between the rise of Rhea Ripley and the insane heat on Dirty Dom Mysterio; thats what has kept me tuning in. I think Rhea is probably one of the best wrestlers on the roster, but mostly when I watch Raw and Smackdown, I end up skipping most of the matches just to watch the promos, haha. I love myself a good storyline.
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Cody is going to beat both of them
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more questioning if this is a work or not lol. The Rock's heel turn has begun Link - ( New Window )
Cody is going to beat both of them
I hope it's not a triple-threat. Fuck Cody
This protects rollins from having to do a full match...
Priest cashes in halfway through the match and takes out Rollins...Cody survives
This protects rollins from having to do a full match...
Priest cashes in halfway through the match and takes out Rollins...Cody survives
I doubt that unless priest cashes in before
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night 1, Cody and Rollins vs Rock and Reigns, Codyy wins he gets a title shot night 2..
This protects rollins from having to do a full match...
Priest cashes in halfway through the match and takes out Rollins...Cody survives
I doubt that unless priest cashes in before
thats possible
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night 1, Cody and Rollins vs Rock and Reigns, Codyy wins he gets a title shot night 2..
This protects rollins from having to do a full match...
Priest cashes in halfway through the match and takes out Rollins...Cody survives
I doubt that unless priest cashes in before
thats possible
I don’t think it is at all Rollins has to defend at mania otherwise that makes elimination chamber meaningless
Wasn’t anything special most interesting part about the show was Bron Breakker officially “signing” with smackdown
Honestly, the problem is that it feels like Dwayne Johnson, the crappy actor, is making a biopic of the Rock. None of it feels organic.
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Vintage heel rock, he's still so good on the mic.
Honestly, the problem is that it feels like Dwayne Johnson, the crappy actor, is making a biopic of the Rock. None of it feels organic.
Last 10 minutes of The Rock spewing the same stuff we've heard numerous times & him holding up his finger at the end was the culmination of a boring 10 minutes,where I thought,at the very least,there'd be some sort of action at the end. Wonder which Rock we see at the opening of the UFL on March 30th?
I gotta say, Rollins has definitely improved. I like that style he's got lol pretty funny
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Vintage heel rock, he's still so good on the mic.
Honestly, the problem is that it feels like Dwayne Johnson, the crappy actor, is making a biopic of the Rock. None of it feels organic.
The issue is none of the heels are even close to his level.