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What rule changes would you make?

Reale01 : 2/4/2024 12:30 pm
The thread with the British guy got me thinking.
I would do the following:

Defensive holding, illegal contact would be 10 yard penalties no automatic first down. Call it the "Darnay Holmes Rule"

I would make every penalty that is called eligible for challenge. The only play without a penalty that I would allow a challenge would be uncalled pass interferance. Still allow only two challenges as per current system. So many games are changed by obviously bad calls. Particularly PI, defensive holding and less so with roughing the passer.

On a less serious side I would add a 5 yard penalty for a for "Being a Dick". This would cover situations where a player is pushing, taunting, playing after the whistle, etc.. at an annoying level that does not quite constitute a personal foul.
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Automatic 4th down  
RomanWH : 2/4/2024 9:42 pm : link
You have all these penalties against the defense that awards an offense a brand new set of downs. How about we make some offensive penalties cost them all the downs? Such as unnecessary roughness against any offensive player. Penalty of 10 yards and automatic 4th down. Any dirty player like a Trent Williams not only cost them yards but also the rest of their set of downs. Either punt or if they're close enough, attempt a FG.
Would making an onside kick only having to go 5 yards  
BigBlue in Keys : 2/4/2024 9:48 pm : link
make a recovery more plausible? You would think it would be safer having less distance for the players to build momentum too. I feel like the onside kick is one of the great equalizers in the game.
RE: I hate the PI rules  
JoeSchoens11 : 2/4/2024 9:49 pm : link
In comment 16388420 US1 Giants said:
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Refs dictate the outcome of the game with a penalty late in the game by calling PI. There has got to be a better way.
I would like them to treat badly under-thrown passes like they do over-thrown ones. Call them ‘uncatchable’ while still have the ability to call it illegal contact if something egregious occurred. Penalizing a cb who played perfect coverage for a terrible throw should not happen.
To constitute a catch in the field, get rid of the necessity of  
lawguy9801 : 2/4/2024 9:55 pm : link
making a "football move" or a "move common to the game," or however it's stupidly and confusingly characterized.

Just say you need two feet down in bounds plus a third step. So much simpler.
I afraid that any change that eliminates a commercial  
pivo : 2/4/2024 10:15 pm : link
is not a good "business decision". Unless there is some offsetting change (like additional challenges) to balance the commercial timeouts. So, eliminating the kickoff may not pass muster with the financial guys...
RE: Why would you guys want to get rid if the kickoff  
RHPeel : 2/4/2024 10:25 pm : link
In comment 16388414 fanoftheteam said:
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I find that such a psychotic thought to say if your a football fan.

Why not just bring it back? You guys dont like it- really? How so?


The rule changes have significantly cut back on concussions. They were cool as they used to be but I'm OK with the change, given the data.
RE: Would making an onside kick only having to go 5 yards  
NormanAllen_95 : 2/4/2024 10:50 pm : link
In comment 16388668 BigBlue in Keys said:
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make a recovery more plausible? You would think it would be safer having less distance for the players to build momentum too. I feel like the onside kick is one of the great equalizers in the game.


So coaches tell their players to run even harder amd faster to slam into the opponent? I dont think thats gonna fly.

Unless you mean having only ffense going 5 yards before recovering... In which case ot might become a 65-75% recovery rate!

Either way, 8t requires people slamming themselves into other people.

I would prefer a normal offensive play, 25 yards. If you get it, you get the ball at the 35 on 2nd down and lets go. If you dont make it, the other team gets the ball on the THEIR 35.
To sum up, in lieu of onsides  
NormanAllen_95 : 2/4/2024 10:53 pm : link
Kick. Receiving team gets the ball at the 35, 2nd and 25, they convert, game on. They dont, defense gets the ball.
Great conversation  
A-Train : 2/4/2024 11:36 pm : link
I have come around to the thought that when the ball is fumbled through the end zone it isn’t a reward for the defense, but a punishment to the offense for not taking care of the ball. And like someone said earlier, a rule in favor of defense, or to the advantage of the defense.
PI penalties have always been too harsh, especially when they are chucking. Definitely needs reform.
Coaches should have double the number of challenges. Don’t hamstring teams on petty technicalities. Get it right.
Find a way to penalize both teams when there are offsetting penalties. Should not cancel them out but enforce next available play.
Love the “being a dick” penalty. Nice.
Honestly,  
NormanAllen_95 : 2/5/2024 12:07 am : link
I am one that has ZERO problem with the penalty 9f fumbling the ball through the end zone.

"You like having the ball? Hang on to it otherwise these assholes git it."
Something needs to be done about PI  
PatersonPlank : 2/5/2024 11:27 am : link
Most times its very arbitrary, and the result is it change a lot of games. I'd make it a 10 yd penalty like holding for most cases. However I would put in a clause for when a defender just tackles a WR on purpose because its a sure TD, maybe call it aggravated PI, where they get the ball on that spot like today. The Premier League has a similar rule, where if you bring down the attacker basically on purpose, and there is no defender left between him and the goal, its a penalty kick. So most would be 10 yds, but an exception for aggravated, on purpose, PI.
Intentional grouding  
FJ : 2/5/2024 8:02 pm : link
Put it back the way it used to be. I hate this out of the pocket bullshit where youre allowed to throw it away. If you are avoiding axsack, it's intentional grounding. Reward the defense.
Take me back to the 80's..  
DefenseWins : 2/5/2024 9:21 pm : link
fewer roughing the passer calls

fewer PI calls

No BS calls when someone touches another helmet even when the ball carrier lowers his head and initiates the contact

Allow penalties to be reviewed. If whether someone was in bounds or out of bounds is a judgement call and penalties are too... then all of it should be reviewed. The refs cannot be challenged when they make a bad call on a penalty? fucking ridiculous.

Video reviews should be unlimited if you keep getting the challenge right. Once you have three misses, you are done for the game.
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