for display only
Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner

Archived Thread

How do you remember the Fassel era?

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/4/2024 6:32 pm
The thread the other day about the worst Giants losses got me thinking about Jim, who I still can’t believe is dead.

The positives:

1) He got us to a Super Bowl.
2) He went 10-5 vs. the Eagles, including a playoff win.
3) The team was generally competitive even in years we didn’t make the postseason. ‘98, ‘99, & ‘01.
4) Giants usually dominated December.

The negatives:

1) We got our doors blown out in said Super Bowl.
2) UFB losses in WC games to Vikes & SF.
3) STs always seemed to suck.
4) The team always seemed to play up or down depending on the competition. Not a great mark for a coach. I still can’t believe we lost in 02 to the inaugural season Texans.

IMO…a good coach, but not one I will tell my grandchildren about. A helluva better than the Judges and Shurmurs of the world, but you could do better. And I know the innuendo about why he never got another HC job, but his record warranted one.
Pages: 1 2 <<Prev | Show All |
It seemed that  
Gman11 : 2/5/2024 10:43 am : link
whenever I thought they would have a good season, they were lousy and whenever I thought they'd be lousy they were good.
by November of 2003 I was disgusted with the Fassel era  
djm : 2/5/2024 11:31 am : link
these days I would kill for it. Funny how time and circumstance can change one's opinion.
arguably  
bc4life : 2/5/2024 11:49 am : link
our worst drafting era ever.
......  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 2/5/2024 1:50 pm : link
I would love to get the full story on why Fassel never got another HC job.

Coaches with way less a resume and success have gotten multiple chances...
RE: With a lot more fondness then I would have thought at the time  
D HOS : 2/5/2024 1:57 pm : link
In comment 16388696 steve in ky said:
Quote:
.


amen.
one that about Fassel (and Coughlin's) tenure here  
djm : 2/5/2024 2:07 pm : link
was the NFC East was a cream puff from 97-99. 2000 Philly was showing serious promise but NYG were still the better and tougher team. By 01 Philly had taken the reigns but even 2000-2003 the East still wasn't that good at all. Skins were always a joke back then. Dallas sucked. Philly was the only good team and they weren't even good until 00.

Coughlin won in a much tougher division. So did Parcells, obviously.

LEt's see how Daboll does. The east is good again. We need to be good again too.
If you ranked all the Giants coaches in the modern era, say from  
Ivan15 : 2/5/2024 2:47 pm : link
Jim Lee Howell forward, he probably would be ranked above the middle of the pack. Maybe slightly below Perkins and above Reeves.
Fun times!  
Dave in PA : 2/5/2024 3:10 pm : link
Seriously. Coming off the likes of Dave Brown, Danny Kanell and Kent Graham, the Fassel/Collins/Barber era were downright electric. My amazing mother lucked into being able to acquire season tickets in section 305 from a family friend from 1999 through 2001 and that was a great window to see a lot of games in person, including the 2000 NFCC beatdown. Sure it ended terribly and with a major meltdown blown playoff game, but I wouldn't call that era anything less than interesting and at times extremely satisfying.
I give him credit  
DieHard : 2/5/2024 7:17 pm : link
for reestablishing a measure of competency around the team after the Reeves years, even if he was up-and-down as a coach (never had consecutive winning seasons). It's ironic that like the Giants teams of the late 50s, his assistant coaches (Lombardi and Landry, Payton and Fox) ended up going on to much more successful careers than the guy who was their boss.
Pretty solid  
Lines of Scrimmage : 2/5/2024 8:33 pm : link
The D was the lead unit as Young had drafted some really good D players. Fassel did great work building Kerry back up and he had plenty of issues to deal with. 2002 O was pretty exciting. They found a "formula" in his words with Tiki, Jeremy and Amani (his best season).

The NFCE was also on a downturn. Dallas was fading. WFT had been down and Reid was just getting going so he never had that really good NFCE to contend with.

The SB season was great. It did though expose some weaknesses. Two biggest ones were the OL and QB. Then the 2003 meltdown but that led to TC and Eli. TC made sure that the Giants were not going to get pushed around up front again and Eli was the big game QB they needed when the critical times called for it.

I think the 2007 or 08 team would deal with that Ravens D of 2000 just fine. The OL would stand strong and Eli wouldn't buckle.



Very fondly  
PHX Giants Fan : 2/5/2024 11:56 pm : link
The Fassel era was fun, and I have great memories from those years. Scrappy, likable teams playing over their heads at times. Always competitive. Getting Collins from the scrap heap and leading them to a Super Bowl in his first full year as a starter was impressive. Really only one bad season. Glad he was a Giant.
Pages: 1 2 <<Prev | Show All |
Back to the Corner