Maybe just as important, these are coaches that came up through the Patriots system as Daboll did and may be more used to/comfortable with his style of communication than a Mike Kafka or Wink Martindale.
RE: RE: RE: so we are basically taking a staff that was laid off
that nobody else touched, but yeah, we had options!
How does one complain about a TE coach who has risen to the level of OC? Very weird
its not complaining, it is the reality of the situation and his offenses have not been particularly good. So, not sure what you are so jazzed up about.
Because it sounds dumb.. We have a former OC as a TE's coach.. BTW, his background was with a team centered around a RB, which means his Ol and TE's had to be able to block. Maybe that will be a focus here- since blocking by that group for us has been pathetic.
RE: so we are basically taking a staff that was laid off
there's NO way Schoen is going to put extra pressure on his HC AND friend BD, by "setting the table" for his replacement.
PLUS, Daboll had to sign off on ALL these moves, its HIS coaching staff.
the only way Daboll is getting fired this year is if he takes a tire iron to one of his coaches or players. Mara has been whining about wanting stability for sometime now.
He has the GM and HC he wants, they will continue to build to sustained winning. That's the goal. Not short term gratification (which the mob here is clamoring for).
there's NO way Schoen is going to put extra pressure on his HC AND friend BD, by "setting the table" for his replacement.
PLUS, Daboll had to sign off on ALL these moves, its HIS coaching staff.
the only way Daboll is getting fired this year is if he takes a tire iron to one of his coaches or players. Mara has been whining about wanting stability for sometime now.
He has the GM and HC he wants, they will continue to build to sustained winning. That's the goal. Not short term gratification (which the mob here is clamoring for).
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I would say that Schoen has a longer leash then Daboll. That is just an educated guess. Schoen might be 'friendly' with Daboll, but keep in mind, it's still a working relationship.
It always will be with GM/HC situation(s). I am not sure Daboll will survive a brutal season, although Mara would like continuity for a change.
Well, they made a couple hires now, and also lost a good coach in TE coach. He went to the Chargers to work for Harbaugh.
Where are you finding those in college. TE have become WR like. If you expect a guy to magically block once he reaches the NFL you will be highly disappointed
Where are you finding those in college. TE have become WR like. If you expect a guy to magically block once he reaches the NFL you will be highly disappointed
Where are you finding those in college. TE have become WR like. If you expect a guy to magically block once he reaches the NFL you will be highly disappointed
Iowa's always good for that. Probably useless in the passing game but they can block.
Where are you finding those in college. TE have become WR like. If you expect a guy to magically block once he reaches the NFL you will be highly disappointed
Iowa's always good for that. Probably useless in the passing game but they can block.
Recently: George Kittle, Noah Fant, TJ Hockenson, Sam LaPorta.
Last season he was voted COY, this past season thanks to injuries throughout the team (including another to the overpaid dud of a QB), as well as an on-going mutiny by the former DC, Daboll has been thrown under the bus.
I still like him and have faith in his abilities to take the Giants into the playoffs!
Is a healthy part of building organizations. I like the hire on different levels. The giants are acquire a qualified coach who is available. His experience is an upgrade over the previous TE coach. He’s over qualified but available. If Kafka leaves and this regime sticks it out another year, he could be an OC replacement candidate. If the team falters and Schoen and Danilo break up, sure Vrabell could be a candidate.
If they are successful though it is very likely Kafka walks, he wa close this year, and if they surprise those HC looks will return.
Dumb dumb comment.. Gimme a break..
Maybe just as important, these are coaches that came up through the Patriots system as Daboll did and may be more used to/comfortable with his style of communication than a Mike Kafka or Wink Martindale.
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that nobody else touched, but yeah, we had options!
How does one complain about a TE coach who has risen to the level of OC? Very weird
its not complaining, it is the reality of the situation and his offenses have not been particularly good. So, not sure what you are so jazzed up about.
Because it sounds dumb.. We have a former OC as a TE's coach.. BTW, his background was with a team centered around a RB, which means his Ol and TE's had to be able to block. Maybe that will be a focus here- since blocking by that group for us has been pathetic.
You say a lot of really stupid things
Good coaches can be on bad teams and outside of this past year it isn’t like agent has been bad
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that nobody else touched, but yeah, we had options!
You say a lot of really stupid things
Good coaches can be on bad teams and outside of this past year it isnt like Tennessee has been bad
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that nobody else touched, but yeah, we had options!
Damn. You will literally complain about anything
Seriously. I don't man to come off abrasive but this is just whinging
You also have to view their offense through the lens that they, like us, did not have a good quarterback situation.
PLUS, Daboll had to sign off on ALL these moves, its HIS coaching staff.
the only way Daboll is getting fired this year is if he takes a tire iron to one of his coaches or players. Mara has been whining about wanting stability for sometime now.
He has the GM and HC he wants, they will continue to build to sustained winning. That's the goal. Not short term gratification (which the mob here is clamoring for).
Giants Hire Tim Kelly as Tight Ends Coach - ( New Window )
PLUS, Daboll had to sign off on ALL these moves, its HIS coaching staff.
the only way Daboll is getting fired this year is if he takes a tire iron to one of his coaches or players. Mara has been whining about wanting stability for sometime now.
He has the GM and HC he wants, they will continue to build to sustained winning. That's the goal. Not short term gratification (which the mob here is clamoring for).
I would say that Schoen has a longer leash then Daboll. That is just an educated guess. Schoen might be 'friendly' with Daboll, but keep in mind, it's still a working relationship.
It always will be with GM/HC situation(s). I am not sure Daboll will survive a brutal season, although Mara would like continuity for a change.
Well, they made a couple hires now, and also lost a good coach in TE coach. He went to the Chargers to work for Harbaugh.
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Well, they made a couple hires now, and also lost a good coach in TE coach. He went to the Chargers to work for Harbaugh.
Did they lose a "good" coach to the Chargers? How did Bellinger do in his 2nd year?
How about letting Kelly get to work before demeaning him...
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that nobody else touched, but yeah, we had options!
Damn. You will literally complain about anything
And seemingly without knowing anything...non compos mentis.
Around the 3:40 he talks about Tight Ends specifically. This includes what he looks for in tight ends.
Tim Kelly at 2023 Combine - ( New Window )
Iowa's always good for that. Probably useless in the passing game but they can block.
Daboll definitely isn’t going to hire a former HC to pave the way for Daboll’s replacement.
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Where are you finding those in college. TE have become WR like. If you expect a guy to magically block once he reaches the NFL you will be highly disappointed
Iowa's always good for that. Probably useless in the passing game but they can block.
Recently: George Kittle, Noah Fant, TJ Hockenson, Sam LaPorta.
They're alright.
I still like him and have faith in his abilities to take the Giants into the playoffs!
If they are successful though it is very likely Kafka walks, he wa close this year, and if they surprise those HC looks will return.
He'll never last to #39.