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Giants hire Tim Kelly as TE coach former Titans OC

bigbluewillrise : 2/6/2024 9:48 am
https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1754878745255510501
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RE: so we are basically taking a staff that was laid off  
jvm52106 : 2/6/2024 11:55 am : link
In comment 16390127 Essex said:
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that nobody else touched, but yeah, we had options!


Dumb dumb comment.. Gimme a break..
looks the part  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/6/2024 11:56 am : link
Giants going with the all-beard coaching staff...

Between working for Vrabel and Bill O'Brien  
Biteymax22 : 2/6/2024 11:58 am : link
He's been under some good coaches.

Maybe just as important, these are coaches that came up through the Patriots system as Daboll did and may be more used to/comfortable with his style of communication than a Mike Kafka or Wink Martindale.

RE: RE: RE: so we are basically taking a staff that was laid off  
jvm52106 : 2/6/2024 11:58 am : link
In comment 16390163 Essex said:
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that nobody else touched, but yeah, we had options!



How does one complain about a TE coach who has risen to the level of OC? Very weird


its not complaining, it is the reality of the situation and his offenses have not been particularly good. So, not sure what you are so jazzed up about.


Because it sounds dumb.. We have a former OC as a TE's coach.. BTW, his background was with a team centered around a RB, which means his Ol and TE's had to be able to block. Maybe that will be a focus here- since blocking by that group for us has been pathetic.
RE: so we are basically taking a staff that was laid off  
Mbavaro : 2/6/2024 12:00 pm : link
In comment 16390127 Essex said:
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that nobody else touched, but yeah, we had options!


You say a lot of really stupid things

Good coaches can be on bad teams and outside of this past year it isn’t like agent has been bad
Essex  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/6/2024 12:04 pm : link
He did something right to get promoted to OC as such a young age. He impressed.
RE: RE: so we are basically taking a staff that was laid off  
Mbavaro : 2/6/2024 12:07 pm : link
In comment 16390388 Mbavaro said:
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that nobody else touched, but yeah, we had options!



You say a lot of really stupid things

Good coaches can be on bad teams and outside of this past year it isnt like Tennessee has been bad
can see the willis/tannehill connection maybe developing  
bigbluewillrise : 2/6/2024 12:13 pm : link
who knows.
RE: RE: so we are basically taking a staff that was laid off  
Festina Lente : 2/6/2024 12:37 pm : link
In comment 16390164 BigBlueShock said:
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that nobody else touched, but yeah, we had options!


Damn. You will literally complain about anything


Seriously. I don't man to come off abrasive but this is just whinging
People don't want to hear it  
Festina Lente : 2/6/2024 12:39 pm : link
But tannehhil is a better qb than DJ (EXCEPT for running). He had shown it but he will probably be too much
Titans offense has been near the bottom of the league  
widmerseyebrow : 2/6/2024 12:39 pm : link
The last two years in yards and points. That's a fact.

You also have to view their offense through the lens that they, like us, did not have a good quarterback situation.
stop with the Vrabel crap  
Dave on the UWS : 2/6/2024 12:43 pm : link
there's NO way Schoen is going to put extra pressure on his HC AND friend BD, by "setting the table" for his replacement.
PLUS, Daboll had to sign off on ALL these moves, its HIS coaching staff.
the only way Daboll is getting fired this year is if he takes a tire iron to one of his coaches or players. Mara has been whining about wanting stability for sometime now.
He has the GM and HC he wants, they will continue to build to sustained winning. That's the goal. Not short term gratification (which the mob here is clamoring for).
FYI  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/6/2024 12:59 pm : link
front page update
Giants Hire Tim Kelly as Tight Ends Coach - ( New Window )
Tim Kelly  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/6/2024 1:03 pm : link
has one of those faces where you just a look can put the fear of God into you.
RE: stop with the Vrabel crap  
Carson53 : 2/6/2024 1:11 pm : link
In comment 16390441 Dave on the UWS said:
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there's NO way Schoen is going to put extra pressure on his HC AND friend BD, by "setting the table" for his replacement.
PLUS, Daboll had to sign off on ALL these moves, its HIS coaching staff.
the only way Daboll is getting fired this year is if he takes a tire iron to one of his coaches or players. Mara has been whining about wanting stability for sometime now.
He has the GM and HC he wants, they will continue to build to sustained winning. That's the goal. Not short term gratification (which the mob here is clamoring for).
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I would say that Schoen has a longer leash then Daboll. That is just an educated guess. Schoen might be 'friendly' with Daboll, but keep in mind, it's still a working relationship.
It always will be with GM/HC situation(s). I am not sure Daboll will survive a brutal season, although Mara would like continuity for a change.
Well, they made a couple hires now, and also lost a good coach in TE coach. He went to the Chargers to work for Harbaugh.
Are beards a prerequisite  
PEEJ : 2/6/2024 1:21 pm : link
for hiring ?
RE: People don't want to hear it  
UberAlias : 2/6/2024 1:22 pm : link
In comment 16390428 Festina Lente said:
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But tannehhil is a better qb than DJ (EXCEPT for running). He had shown it but he will probably be too much
LOL. This is where you have your sights set?
So Is It Really the Consensus Here  
clatterbuck : 2/6/2024 4:32 pm : link
that Brian Daboll is constructing his staff to facilitate his dismissal?
RE: RE: stop with the Vrabel crap  
section125 : 2/6/2024 5:03 pm : link
In comment 16390476 Carson53 said:
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Well, they made a couple hires now, and also lost a good coach in TE coach. He went to the Chargers to work for Harbaugh.


Did they lose a "good" coach to the Chargers? How did Bellinger do in his 2nd year?

How about letting Kelly get to work before demeaning him...
RE: RE: so we are basically taking a staff that was laid off  
BMac : 2/6/2024 5:39 pm : link
In comment 16390164 BigBlueShock said:
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that nobody else touched, but yeah, we had options!


Damn. You will literally complain about anything


And seemingly without knowing anything...non compos mentis.
Tim Kelly  
Big_Pete : 2/6/2024 6:27 pm : link
I found an interesting video with an Interview with Tim Kelly at the 2023 Scouting combine

Around the 3:40 he talks about Tight Ends specifically. This includes what he looks for in tight ends.
Tim Kelly at 2023 Combine - ( New Window )
TE who block  
stretch234 : 2/6/2024 6:32 pm : link
Where are you finding those in college. TE have become WR like. If you expect a guy to magically block once he reaches the NFL you will be highly disappointed
TE who block  
stretch234 : 2/6/2024 6:32 pm : link
Where are you finding those in college. TE have become WR like. If you expect a guy to magically block once he reaches the NFL you will be highly disappointed
RE: TE who block  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/6/2024 6:33 pm : link
In comment 16390897 stretch234 said:
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Where are you finding those in college. TE have become WR like. If you expect a guy to magically block once he reaches the NFL you will be highly disappointed


Iowa's always good for that. Probably useless in the passing game but they can block.
RE: Mike Vrabel for OLB coach!  
Ivan15 : 2/6/2024 6:50 pm : link
In comment 16390156 Anakim said:
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Daboll definitely isn’t going to hire a former HC to pave the way for Daboll’s replacement.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/6/2024 6:58 pm : link
Seems like a good hire.
RE: RE: TE who block  
Toth029 : 2/6/2024 8:03 pm : link
In comment 16390900 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Where are you finding those in college. TE have become WR like. If you expect a guy to magically block once he reaches the NFL you will be highly disappointed



Iowa's always good for that. Probably useless in the passing game but they can block.


Recently: George Kittle, Noah Fant, TJ Hockenson, Sam LaPorta.

They're alright.
I don't get all of the hatred towards Daboll  
Fishmanjim57 : 2/6/2024 8:16 pm : link
Last season he was voted COY, this past season thanks to injuries throughout the team (including another to the overpaid dud of a QB), as well as an on-going mutiny by the former DC, Daboll has been thrown under the bus.
I still like him and have faith in his abilities to take the Giants into the playoffs!
Succession planning  
DavidinBMNY : 2/6/2024 9:02 pm : link
Is a healthy part of building organizations. I like the hire on different levels. The giants are acquire a qualified coach who is available. His experience is an upgrade over the previous TE coach. He’s over qualified but available. If Kafka leaves and this regime sticks it out another year, he could be an OC replacement candidate. If the team falters and Schoen and Danilo break up, sure Vrabell could be a candidate.

If they are successful though it is very likely Kafka walks, he wa close this year, and if they surprise those HC looks will return.
 
ryanmkeane : 2/6/2024 9:20 pm : link
This has nothing to do with the hire but it would not shock me if Schoen took Bowers. He’s an all pro type player immediately.
RE: Perfect guy for  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/6/2024 9:21 pm : link
In comment 16390218 jeff57 said:
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Brock Bowers. ;)

He'll never last to #39.
RE: People don't want to hear it  
Wiggy : 2/6/2024 9:34 pm : link
In comment 16390428 Festina Lente said:
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But tannehhil is a better qb than DJ (EXCEPT for running). He had shown it but he will probably be too much
they are like the same player. It would be like that time we had 4 slot receivers on the roster…….
It doesn't really mean anything but Kelly and Bowen  
GeofromNJ : 2/6/2024 9:55 pm : link
look more like NFL coaches that does Daboll who's short and overweight.
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