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Drake Maye Getting Tutelage from Eli Manning

Lambuth_Special : 2/8/2024 12:39 pm
Eli is helping Drake navigate the pre-draft process. Just two southern boys lookin' out for each other:

https://nypost.com/2024/02/08/sports/drake-maye-reveals-eli-manning-is-helping-his-2024-nfl-draft-prep/
Hope  
darren in pdx : 2/8/2024 12:42 pm : link
he’a telling him how to force a trade to the Giants..
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ChrisRick : 2/8/2024 12:45 pm : link
nah, this is an obvious sign that Mara loves Maye and intends to draft him. Since Mara listens to fans, the fans have spoken that it is time to move on from Jones. Mara has found his new guy, with the fans approval of course.
Didnt he help Jones too?  
upnyg : 2/8/2024 12:48 pm : link
I know he attended his camps
RE: Hope  
Jay on the Island : 2/8/2024 12:48 pm : link
In comment 16393036 darren in pdx said:
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he’a telling him how to force a trade to the Giants..

Lol, I was thinking the same thing.
If Drake  
Scooter185 : 2/8/2024 12:48 pm : link
Hires Cutcliffe as his personal QB coach, Mara will insist he's our next QB
Maye feels like a Giants type QB  
Sean : 2/8/2024 12:49 pm : link
Hard to see them passing on him if he's there at six.
Maye is a great talent...  
bw in dc : 2/8/2024 12:53 pm : link
I would love to draft him.
John Mara just got wind of this  
djm : 2/8/2024 1:01 pm : link


Just Two 10s Getting Together  
Trainmaster : 2/8/2024 1:32 pm : link
Nothing to see here:

Only saw him for a half  
Lines of Scrimmage : 2/8/2024 1:46 pm : link
and he actually almost threw a horrific interception. Good move getting advice from Eli for any QB.

What is a Giants type of QB Sean?

In my just over 40 years watching them they have had a lot of good to great QB play imv. Better than many franchises imv.
Couldn't hurt, that's for certain.  
ThomasG : 2/8/2024 1:52 pm : link
Would be great if Schoen could be in a position to draft Maye. And then he could compete with Daniel Jones for the starting job going forward.





Hahahaha! I just couldn't hold that in.
RE: Only saw him for a half  
bw in dc : 2/8/2024 1:55 pm : link
In comment 16393150 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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and he actually almost threw a horrific interception. Good move getting advice from Eli for any QB.



Can you elaborate on this? You watched Maye play one half of football and he almost threw a bad INT.

Are you suggesting it's good to get advice from Eli because of that INT he almost threw? Or are you just saying getting advice from Eli in general is a good idea?
In general  
Lines of Scrimmage : 2/8/2024 2:00 pm : link
Bw. As, I said I did not see Maye enough to make a comment pro or con and I mentioned the almost pick because it was one of those wtf are you thinking type.

I have seen some draft people say he had a bunch of new WR's this season that had a impact on him.
I am on the Maye Train  
Rjanyg : 2/8/2024 2:04 pm : link
I wish they could move up to get him or he somehow falls to 6.

The Maye train was derailed this year by relatively poor play down the  
Spider56 : 2/8/2024 2:21 pm : link
stretch … can he recover and get back to his original trajectory is the question.

Hey .. if the first QB from Charlotte via Duke didn’t work out, why not try a second, this time via UNC.
RE: I am on the Maye Train  
upnyg : 2/8/2024 3:03 pm : link
In comment 16393185 Rjanyg said:
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I wish they could move up to get him or he somehow falls to 6.

I havent seen any of his games. Just watched 2 Youtube highlights on him. Not a good way to evaluate.

But he doesnt really stand out to me enough to say hes in the top 3 or the top 6 QBs in the draft. Just going to have to trust the Giants scouts on this.
If Schoen moves up  
Dave on the UWS : 2/8/2024 3:20 pm : link
I'm betting its for this guy. He fits what they want in a QB (some have comped him to Josh Allen).
Its also possible, he will be QB3, and if Chicago takes MHJ, there's a chance he makes it at least to 5, and Schoen can move up a spot to grab him.
RE: If Schoen moves up  
Spider56 : 2/8/2024 5:12 pm : link
In comment 16393323 Dave on the UWS said:
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I'm betting its for this guy. He fits what they want in a QB (some have comped him to Josh Allen).
Its also possible, he will be QB3, and if Chicago takes MHJ, there's a chance he makes it at least to 5, and Schoen can move up a spot to grab him.


I think we’re going to get a read on this with what the Giants do during FA. If they sign a young guy like Browning, then I think not. If they go older, like a Brissett or resign Tyrod, then I think a top tier QB will be in play. Stay tuned.
RE: In general  
bw in dc : 2/8/2024 5:43 pm : link
In comment 16393179 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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Bw. As, I said I did not see Maye enough to make a comment pro or con and I mentioned the almost pick because it was one of those wtf are you thinking type.

I have seen some draft people say he had a bunch of new WR's this season that had a impact on him.


Actually, Maye had a terrific transfer WR when he was cleared to play by the NCAA - Tez Walker. Walker will be drafted on the first or second day this April. But Maye was managing a new group of WRs, and they had some OL issues along the way.

So, I admit there was some pullback this year. But the talent hasn't changed.

If Maye drops out of the top of out the top five slots, a team is going to get a great, great QB prospect. There are a lot of tools to work with.

I didn't love what I saw of Maye this year,  
Go Terps : 2/8/2024 5:58 pm : link
but if the Giants' evaluators have a high grade on him they should go for it. I'd be thrilled.
If they move up....  
Fishmanjim57 : 2/8/2024 7:11 pm : link
Their target should be Jayden Daniels. However the Giants do it, they need to draft a top tier QB and move on from the Gettleman mistake. I know they're legally bound to voice their support in Jones, but that's just playing politics.
I hope we've seen the end of the Jones era already.
RE: I didn't love what I saw of Maye this year,  
bw in dc : 2/8/2024 7:19 pm : link
In comment 16393492 Go Terps said:
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but if the Giants' evaluators have a high grade on him they should go for it. I'd be thrilled.


Tim Hasselbeck (ex-Giant QB), who is a college football broadcaster and draft evaluator for ESPN, recently said Maye is the best QB prospect he has seen in his 15 years at ESPN.

And Hasselbeck isn't some guy who intentionally tries to shock people.
RE: RE: I didn't love what I saw of Maye this year,  
Go Terps : 2/8/2024 7:29 pm : link
In comment 16393551 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16393492 Go Terps said:


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but if the Giants' evaluators have a high grade on him they should go for it. I'd be thrilled.



Tim Hasselbeck (ex-Giant QB), who is a college football broadcaster and draft evaluator for ESPN, recently said Maye is the best QB prospect he has seen in his 15 years at ESPN.

And Hasselbeck isn't some guy who intentionally tries to shock people.


Let me be clear: if he drops to 6 and the Giants pass on him I'll be pissed.

I think the Giants are in a great spot: they are picking 6 and there are 5 QBs I'd be happy with in that spot. I'd even give them the benefit of the doubt on McCarthy, my least favorite of the Williams/Daniels/Maye/Nix/Penix/McCarthy group.

I think they HAVE to pick one of these 6 QBs at 6. Their options to pick a QB are unlikely to be this good next year or the year after.

If it's Maye, great. I'm on board. Just. Fucking. Do. It.
There has been McCarthy noise recently  
Sean : 2/8/2024 7:32 pm : link
Benjamin Albright reported that there are many NFL scouts that are higher on McCarthy than Nix/Penix.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/8/2024 7:33 pm : link
Maye won't be on the board @ 6.
RE: There has been McCarthy noise recently  
Go Terps : 2/8/2024 7:37 pm : link
In comment 16393560 Sean said:
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Benjamin Albright reported that there are many NFL scouts that are higher on McCarthy than Nix/Penix.


Of these six he reminds me of Jones the most. He is slow to deliver the ball; has to see it to throw it. That scares me. Physical tools are all there, but they're there with Jones too.

But if they want to take a shot on him, I'd be happy to be wrong.
RE: ...  
GFAN52 : 2/8/2024 7:40 pm : link
In comment 16393561 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Maye won't be on the board @ 6.


I agree highly doubtful.
RE: RE: RE: I didn't love what I saw of Maye this year,  
bw in dc : 2/8/2024 7:47 pm : link
In comment 16393559 Go Terps said:
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Let me be clear: if he drops to 6 and the Giants pass on him I'll be pissed.

I think the Giants are in a great spot: they are picking 6 and there are 5 QBs I'd be happy with in that spot. I'd even give them the benefit of the doubt on McCarthy, my least favorite of the Williams/Daniels/Maye/Nix/Penix/McCarthy group.

I think they HAVE to pick one of these 6 QBs at 6. Their options to pick a QB are unlikely to be this good next year or the year after.

If it's Maye, great. I'm on board. Just. Fucking. Do. It.


I hear you. Since you have some doubts, I thought you might find Hasselbeck's comment worthwhile about Maye.

RE: RE: RE: RE: I didn't love what I saw of Maye this year,  
Go Terps : 2/8/2024 7:58 pm : link
In comment 16393568 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16393559 Go Terps said:


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Let me be clear: if he drops to 6 and the Giants pass on him I'll be pissed.

I think the Giants are in a great spot: they are picking 6 and there are 5 QBs I'd be happy with in that spot. I'd even give them the benefit of the doubt on McCarthy, my least favorite of the Williams/Daniels/Maye/Nix/Penix/McCarthy group.

I think they HAVE to pick one of these 6 QBs at 6. Their options to pick a QB are unlikely to be this good next year or the year after.

If it's Maye, great. I'm on board. Just. Fucking. Do. It.



I hear you. Since you have some doubts, I thought you might find Hasselbeck's comment worthwhile about Maye.


Yeah I've seen lots of really positive comments on Maye. I've seen others (Randy Mueller comes to mind) who aren't as positive.

But there are so many people analyzing this stuff now that you can find any opinion on any player if you dig hard enough. I keep coming back to the best things I saw all year: Daniels against Florida and Penix against Texas. They completely different players with different skill sets, but each a guy that I'd love to see the Giants build an offense for.

But we've got to take one. I'm not concerned about reaching. Who would we be missing out on? Nabers or Odunze? Both good players, but WR is becoming like RB in that you can find them anywhere in the draft. There's no can't miss edge or OT that's way better than the QBs. We wouldn't be missing on Trent Williams or Myles Garrett.

Now's the time. Man I'd love it if Drake Maye is a Giant.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I didn't love what I saw of Maye this year,  
bw in dc : 2/8/2024 8:51 pm : link
In comment 16393575 Go Terps said:
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Yeah I've seen lots of really positive comments on Maye. I've seen others (Randy Mueller comes to mind) who aren't as positive.

But there are so many people analyzing this stuff now that you can find any opinion on any player if you dig hard enough. I keep coming back to the best things I saw all year: Daniels against Florida and Penix against Texas. They completely different players with different skill sets, but each a guy that I'd love to see the Giants build an offense for.

But we've got to take one. I'm not concerned about reaching. Who would we be missing out on? Nabers or Odunze? Both good players, but WR is becoming like RB in that you can find them anywhere in the draft. There's no can't miss edge or OT that's way better than the QBs. We wouldn't be missing on Trent Williams or Myles Garrett.

Now's the time. Man I'd love it if Drake Maye is a Giant.


Putting aside my current state of mind that we will go small and not big on the QB situation, I would take any of these seven QBs in this draft to replace Jones. But I would not invest the 6th pick in any player not named Daniels, Maye, Williams. Too many question marks in my view. Maybe move up late into day one or early day two for any of the others.

Let's say Schoen falls full bloom in love with McCarthy and his intel suggests he will be there in the late teens. Well, get the hell out of #6, pick up some more picks, and move down.
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christian : 2/8/2024 9:00 pm : link
I think it's pretty clear a quarterback with more upside than Jones will get picked 6th or later. When Schoen looks at the spreadsheet for 2025 & 2026 and sees 78M next Daniel Jones, I hope he has the mental creativity to pretend that says free agent guard and receiver.

That should make it easier if Mayes or someone else falls.
Bw  
JT039 : 2/8/2024 9:01 pm : link
Problem is teams like Atlanta, Minny, Denver are licking right after us and may take him.

I’m like you - I don’t want McCarthy at 6. But if Schoen loves him that much - just take him at 6. And start him immediately.
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Del Shofner : 2/8/2024 9:03 pm : link
In comment 16393599 bw in dc said:
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Let's say Schoen falls full bloom in love with McCarthy and his intel suggests he will be there in the late teens. Well, get the hell out of #6, pick up some more picks, and move down.


This is where I'm at. If they want a QB and one of the 'big 3' isn't there, trade down to where you can get someone else that you also like, even if not as much.
RE: Bw  
bw in dc : 2/8/2024 9:20 pm : link
In comment 16393604 JT039 said:
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Problem is teams like Atlanta, Minny, Denver are licking right after us and may take him.

I’m like you - I don’t want McCarthy at 6. But if Schoen loves him that much - just take him at 6. And start him immediately.


We've got to see where Cousins lands. I think he will knock ATL or Minn out of the running.

And I don't know how to read Payton out in Denver. He's a confident guy who might think Pratt is the guy he can mold and develop. So, your guess is as good as mine with him.

But I do agree. If we take McCarthy at #6 he needs to start pronto.
Maye is easily my least favorite of the big name QB prospects  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2024 10:09 pm : link
But I’d rather give him a shot than keep running Jones out there
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I didn't love what I saw of Maye this year,  
FStubbs : 2/9/2024 7:54 am : link
In comment 16393599 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16393575 Go Terps said:


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Yeah I've seen lots of really positive comments on Maye. I've seen others (Randy Mueller comes to mind) who aren't as positive.

But there are so many people analyzing this stuff now that you can find any opinion on any player if you dig hard enough. I keep coming back to the best things I saw all year: Daniels against Florida and Penix against Texas. They completely different players with different skill sets, but each a guy that I'd love to see the Giants build an offense for.

But we've got to take one. I'm not concerned about reaching. Who would we be missing out on? Nabers or Odunze? Both good players, but WR is becoming like RB in that you can find them anywhere in the draft. There's no can't miss edge or OT that's way better than the QBs. We wouldn't be missing on Trent Williams or Myles Garrett.

Now's the time. Man I'd love it if Drake Maye is a Giant.



Putting aside my current state of mind that we will go small and not big on the QB situation, I would take any of these seven QBs in this draft to replace Jones. But I would not invest the 6th pick in any player not named Daniels, Maye, Williams. Too many question marks in my view. Maybe move up late into day one or early day two for any of the others.

Let's say Schoen falls full bloom in love with McCarthy and his intel suggests he will be there in the late teens. Well, get the hell out of #6, pick up some more picks, and move down.


No, if you fall full bloom in love with him, don't get too cute. Take him at #6.
RE: Hope  
GeofromNJ : 2/9/2024 10:06 pm : link
In comment 16393036 darren in pdx said:
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he’a telling him how to force a trade to the Giants..

Good one. And it'd be nice if it were so.
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