I know McCarthy is a bit of a lightning rod on here with plenty of detractors, but you can't question his arm strength and ability to throw the ball off platform. McCarthy making plays - ( New Window )
On the flipside, not weighing intangibles heavily is how guys like Jamarcus Russell and Zach Wilson get drafted in the Top 5.
I get it.
I'm not saying toss the intangibles, but they shouldn't be on the same level - IMO - as the physical skills.
Sure. I guess I just think most of the guys even up for debate have relatively similar physical skills. Obviously there are outliers and you want the Herbert/Allen/Mahomes type of unicorn if you can get him. I just doubt there's really that huge a spread.
For argument's sake, I just browsed the list of NFL Combine Throw velocities of the last 10 years. The slowest I found was Deshaun Watson at 45 (tied withsomeone I never heard of in the same class). Josh Allen (and Dorian Thomson-Robinson) at 62. Much larger than I would have guessed. Most QBs (including Mahomes at 55mph) measure in the mid to high 50s. That's just one small measurable, but it would appear as long as you're in the neighborhood of 55mph, you should be golden.
I think once you get to that baseline physical talent, it's the intangibles that set most of the great QBs apart from the benchwarmers.
Agreed, you'd think NFL front offices would be using high tech simulators to analyze in game processing speed. It wouldn't be as accurate as real in game processing with real 250-350lb guys in your face, but I'd imagine it would provide some better Intel.
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In comment 16394270 Cap'n Bluebeard said:
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On the flipside, not weighing intangibles heavily is how guys like Jamarcus Russell and Zach Wilson get drafted in the Top 5.
I get it.
I'm not saying toss the intangibles, but they shouldn't be on the same level - IMO - as the physical skills.
Sure. I guess I just think most of the guys even up for debate have relatively similar physical skills. Obviously there are outliers and you want the Herbert/Allen/Mahomes type of unicorn if you can get him. I just doubt there's really that huge a spread.
For argument's sake, I just browsed the list of NFL Combine Throw velocities of the last 10 years. The slowest I found was Deshaun Watson at 45 (tied withsomeone I never heard of in the same class). Josh Allen (and Dorian Thomson-Robinson) at 62. Much larger than I would have guessed. Most QBs (including Mahomes at 55mph) measure in the mid to high 50s. That's just one small measurable, but it would appear as long as you're in the neighborhood of 55mph, you should be golden.
I think once you get to that baseline physical talent, it's the intangibles that set most of the great QBs apart from the benchwarmers.
Agreed, you'd think NFL front offices would be using high tech simulators to analyze in game processing speed. It wouldn't be as accurate as real in game processing with real 250-350lb guys in your face, but I'd imagine it would provide some better Intel.