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Eli Manning eligible for 2025 Hall of Fame

Tim in Eternal Blue : 2/9/2024 8:18 am
Here we go boys. A full year of hearing discussion on whether our guy is a first ballot Hall of Famer. Here's the list of first time eligibles.

First-time eligibles for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Class of 2025 include:

🏈Eli Manning
🏈Luke Kuechly
🏈Adam Vinatieri
🏈Terrell Suggs
🏈Marshal Yanda
🏈Marshawn Lynch
🏈Earl Thomas
🏈Joe Staley
🏈Demaryius Thomas
🏈Aqib Talib
🏈Vernon Davis
🏈Darren Sproles
🏈Cameron Wake
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You do know that the 5  
Brandon Walsh : 2/9/2024 1:01 pm : link
elected in isn't only from this list. It will also include the likes of Antonio Gates, Torry Holt, Reggie Wayne, etc. who didn't get in this year (or previous years)

If it was just this list, he would be one of the five but I think Gates is definitely getting in next year (cannot believe Hester got in over him), one of the WRs (Holt/Wayne) and Kuechly will get in on the first try. He is going for two spots IMO.

Eli is more deserving than the likes of Torry Holt and Reggie Wayne but the committee is very political and likes to make people wait.
RE: Given how hard it is to win a Super Bowl  
upnyg : 2/9/2024 1:22 pm : link
In comment 16393764 Sean said:
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He should absolutely be in. What he did twice in the 4th quarter of super bowls against a Belichick/Brady team is nothing short of incredible.

It's so hard to win super bowls, recent history has proved this. It's a lot of Brady, Manning & Mahomes. Add in his durability and it's an easy decision imo.

The 49'ers haven't won a super bowl since 1994. The Cowboys haven't won since 1995. It's fucking hard. And Eli navigated the postseason twice to win super bowls.
No one on that list should go before Eli.
Eli's best chance to be enshrined will be 2025  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 2/9/2024 1:23 pm : link

Drew Brees is eligible in 2026. 🔒
Big Ben in 2027. 🔒. Rivers also eligible.
Tom Brady in 2028. 🔒

QB is usually the "headliner" and there hasn't been a QB enshrined since 2021.

If 2025 isn't the year then Eli might be waiting awhile.
Not Only the SBs and the SB MVPs  
clatterbuck : 2/9/2024 1:52 pm : link
but the great games he played to get to those SBs, the performance in Ice Bowl II in Green Bay, the beating he stood up to beat the Niners in SF, should mean something. The greatest throw in SB history, Manning to Manningham, also should be a factor, Top ten in yards and TDs, durability, consecutive games, C'mon, Man. And The Man of the Year award, the Manningcasts, the Pro Bowl stuff also should help overcome the anti-NY bias that still exists among some HoF voters.
I think he gets in  
Lines of Scrimmage : 2/9/2024 2:08 pm : link
first time. Two time SB MVP. The HOF QB's who are in often played with at least one HOF player on offense. He will also have among the lowest amount of PB players on offense that played with him. Poor front office the last 6-7 years he was with the Giants. As time has passed it has only high lighted the lack of talent around him those last years. Every two time SB QB from the NFCE is in the HOF.

As for Coughlin, in his dual role as GM/HC with the Jaguars he outperformed the Panthers who had a HOF GM.

With the Giants he was the key to the Giants resurgence. Early in his tenure the other HC's were Parcells, Gibbs and Reid. He was the only one to lead his team to a SB. Twice. Those SB's against the greatest HC of all time.

When you look at the rosters of other two time SB winners, I think the Giants probably had the least talented teams. That showed how great of a HC he really was imv.







RE: What are guys like Darren Sproles and  
j_rud : 2/9/2024 2:10 pm : link
In comment 16393816 chuckydee9 said:
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Vernon Davis doing on here..



Each year we slide a little bit more into the Hall of Very Good. Not to disparage those players but it's become so watered down.
Don’t forget Eli was also Walter Payton Man of the Year....  
Simms11 : 2/9/2024 4:43 pm : link
I believe that is also overlooked. It’s generally activity outside of football, but it puts a very positive note on his already impressive resume. Not sure if he’ll be a first ballot guy, but he’ll get in sooner then later.
I think he'll get in  
David B. : 2/9/2024 7:36 pm : link
But not first ballot. Too many non-Giants fans don't think he was that special. Of course the passing stats and SB MVPs tell an undeniable story.

But they kept Strahan off the first ballot, too.
I'll also say  
David B. : 2/9/2024 7:40 pm : link
IMO, Adam Vinatieri is a slam-dunk first ballot HOFer.
RE: RE: Re. they let everyone in  
Jaenyg : 2/9/2024 9:26 pm : link
In comment 16393944 Go Terps said:
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In comment 16393932 Dr. D said:


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so Eli will get in, seems like saying Eli doesn't really deserve it. But he'll get in bc..



I subscribe to the Deion Sanders philosophy that not all heads at the HOF are equal. If the HOF were reserved for only the truly elite they wouldn't be mandated to let a certain number in every year, and there'd probably be some years they didn't let anyone in.

As it stands now, there are definitely players that are in with less of a resume than Eli, so he should be in.


The HoF is a business. The Canton tourism board won’t allow years with no players getting in. Eli’s a money maker, I expect him in first ballot.
RE: Maybe it should be called the NFL Hall of Super Bowl Fame  
NINEster : 2/10/2024 6:15 pm : link
In comment 16393962 arniefez said:
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Mike Shanahan won the exact same 170 games as Coughlin and won 2 Super Bowls and has a better winning % than Coughlin and he's not in the NFL Hall of Fame.

Mike Holmgren won 161 games, took two different teams to Super Bowls, went to 3 Super Bowls total, had a Super Bowl stolen from him that would have made him the only NFL HC to win Super Bowls with two different teams and a much better winning % than Coughlin and he's not in the NFL Hall of Fame.

George Seifert, Coughlin and Shanahan are the only head coaches to win 2 Super Bowls and not get elected. Seifert's winning % was .648 to Coughlin's .531. But he won his Super Bowls with teams Bill Walsh gets the credit for.

All 5 of the coaches discussed above made it to the semi-final 12 last year. None of them made it the finalist stage. Buddy Parker who coached the Lions in the 1950's did but he wasn't elected. Pro Football QB Hall of Fame Monitor - ( New Window )


Cowher overrated.

Coughlin underrated.

Shanahan underrated.

Seifert very underrated.

Jimmy Johnson overrated.

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