GBN Draft Report: Updated 2024 Big Board (February 8th)

And the next 4 years are filled with polarizing debate. We all know where this is headed, ha!

lower than Luke McCaffrey, Lambert Smith and Javon Baker? And with a 5th round grade...

NFW.

Anyway, this is such a good WR class. I like Thomas, McConkey and Corley as much as any WR in this class.

The OL depth is unbelievable.

In comment 16394509 Sean said:

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And the next 4 years are filled with polarizing debate. We all know where this is headed, ha!

I wouldn’t love that pick but at least it would tell us that they recognize the need to upgrade the position. Ignoring the position completely would be a much more terrifying outcome. For many reasons

1. Nabers or Odunze
2. T’Vondre Sweat
2. Ja’Tavion Sanders
3. Zack Zinter
4. Christian Haynes
5. Josh Proctor
6. Michael Furtney

Offense heavy, but that’s just the way the board fell.

In comment 16394516 BigBlueShock said:

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In comment 16394509 Sean said: Quote: And the next 4 years are filled with polarizing debate. We all know where this is headed, ha! I wouldn’t love that pick but at least it would tell us that they recognize the need to upgrade the position. Ignoring the position completely would be a much more terrifying outcome. For many reasons

I agree. I've got no issue drafting any QB there, the Giants just need to identify quickly whether he's the guy or not and not wait too long.

Prefer him over the 2nd tier QBs anyway.

At some point 1925 Giants Drive will notice, or someone will tell them, that you are allowed to draft QBs just like any other position. Even if you believe you have your QB1 already.

In comment 16394522 ThomasG said:

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Prefer him over the 2nd tier QBs anyway. At some point 1925 Giants Drive will notice, or someone will tell them, that you are allowed to draft QBs just like any other position. Even if you believe you have your QB1 already.

Amazing isn't it? Not since 2019 which is an eternity in the NFL.

In comment 16394522 ThomasG said:

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Prefer him over the 2nd tier QBs anyway. At some point 1925 Giants Drive will notice, or someone will tell them, that you are allowed to draft QBs just like any other position. Even if you believe you have your QB1 already.

You mean like Davis Webb and Kyle Lauletta?

I have a few quibbles, but nothing major.

In comment 16394531 jeff57 said:

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In comment 16394522 ThomasG said: Quote: Prefer him over the 2nd tier QBs anyway. At some point 1925 Giants Drive will notice, or someone will tell them, that you are allowed to draft QBs just like any other position. Even if you believe you have your QB1 already. You mean like Davis Webb and Kyle Lauletta?

Yes, I mean exactly like that. Take a swing on the position every now.

Hopefully a properly educated swing though versus someone who's more interested in scouting horses.

and then.

In comment 16394509 Sean said:

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And the next 4 years are filled with polarizing debate. We all know where this is headed, ha!

Would not be a shocker if one of the QBs outside the "Top 3" goes way higher than expected!

in 2-1/2 weeks followed by pro days. Should be fun time where lots of shifts and some changes are likely.

ranked 26th and dropping to the NYG at 37.

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And the next 4 years are filled with polarizing debate. We all know where this is headed, ha!

Well, if one of the Big 3 is there and Schoen passes, that would be the debate, IMV.

But if Schoen goes all in on McCarthy there is no debate as long as he starts pronto.

5 QBs go in 1st.

The Top Three are gone, down to where you can grab a McCarthy or Nix (if they believe in them) while adding more choices to plug the roster holes. That said, it would drive me nuts if they actually did that and used the extra choices on some flaky CB or WR. They need to build the lines and Big Men are needed, badly.

In comment 16394588 varco said:

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The Top Three are gone, down to where you can grab a McCarthy or Nix (if they believe in them) while adding more choices to plug the roster holes. That said, it would drive me nuts if they actually did that and used the extra choices on some flaky CB or WR. They need to build the lines and Big Men are needed, badly.

Amen!

In comment 16394588 varco said:

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The Top Three are gone, down to where you can grab a McCarthy or Nix (if they believe in them) while adding more choices to plug the roster holes. That said, it would drive me nuts if they actually did that and used the extra choices on some flaky CB or WR. They need to build the lines and Big Men are needed, badly.

There’s a lot of good OL, DL talent in late 1st through 3rd. Giants have three picks already in that area. Trading down is only an option if there’s a stupid overpay.

Then my dream scenario in that situation would be for them to land Malik Nabers at 6 and then trade into the early 20's to select JJ McCarthy.

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And the next 4 years are filled with polarizing debate. We all know where this is headed, ha!

We could also trade down and reach-draft 2 or 3 players!

but that's really high for Christian Jones.

Hello: Just 75 days to the draft. Thanks again for the plug MS. Mush appreciated. Good comments too. Couple of points. OT Jones may be a little higher than most other analysts have him, but he had a terrific Senior Bowl week where he was the best OT on the week plus he's been moving up boards around the league for some time. And Mccaffrey/Rice is a tough call re two guys from football royalty families.In the end it seems to come down to productive and versatility for LM.

Just to confirm our rankings aren't based on much on how where we have players ranked but where we hear NFL teams have them graded. And there are a couple of things I should note. First, the top 3 QBs look to be locks but the next three are all over the board. Indeed you get the feeling that teams themselves really aren't sure what to make of them.

The other thing we noted was that the first 15-20 guys were pretty straightforward but the sense one gets that after that is there are a lot of players with very similar grades. That's especially the case at both WR and OT where there anywhere from 6-12 guys who are virtually interchangeable when it comes to where they rank.

What does all that means for the Giants? Who knows. In fact I am really reluctant to do a new mock in large part because I really have no idea what the Giants will do. The one thing I would be surprised they would do is trade back in the first for a QB. Indeed I don't ever recall a team ever doing that especially if one is targeting a particularly QB; you just don't want someone to jump you. If the Giants did want to move for a QB it is far more likely that they would try and trade back up into the first if one they liked came into range.

I am also really intrigued by what they do with their second day picks, because I feel the top 100 is really talented this year (after that maybe not so much). I'd really like to see them get a bigger DE type guy. I've been mocking Darius Robinson to them but he was arguably the best player overall in Mobile and appears destined to go higher than 37. Whatever I'd really like t see them go heavy on defensive front guys once they get the QB-WR-OT stuff sorted out.

In comment 16394588 varco said:

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The Top Three are gone, down to where you can grab a McCarthy or Nix (if they believe in them) while adding more choices to plug the roster holes.

This is what I would like to see happen.

In comment 16394516 BigBlueShock said:

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In comment 16394509 Sean said: Quote: And the next 4 years are filled with polarizing debate. We all know where this is headed, ha! I wouldn’t love that pick but at least it would tell us that they recognize the need to upgrade the position. Ignoring the position completely would be a much more terrifying outcome. For many reasons

Schoen already said they need to address the position. However, that doesn't necessarily mean drafting a QB. Free agency and trades are still an option. (Remember, the Packers traded a first for Brett Favre.) It's pretty definite the Giants will do something about the QB room. But no matter what they do, there will be fans who say it wasn't enough, or the wrong move.

You make very good points about trading down to pick up a QB... much more likely the trade goes in the other direction such as the Giants trading back up into Round One. Trading down for a QB is really wishful thinking on my part since I'm loath to give up both 2nd rounders given the current state of the Giants roster. Conversely, a slight trade down accrues another pick which I'm all for!

Quick question: Assuming the top 3 QBs are off the Board when the Giants are called to the podium, what would you do as of today -- WR at #6, or some other position?

MS: If it were me I'd really want to take a pass rusher but I don't see any that would be worth the pick. The value at the spot are the WRs and certainly the Giants could use a true #1 elite receiver. Could make that group really tough to defend.

Deep into the cfb season but they've all suddenly changed their tune. A few here saw Jayden Daniels as a top qb prospect way back in September, October. Will be interesting to see where he goes, hopefully he slips a bit and we can still get him but I doubt it. Analysts are going to be wrong about where McCarthy goes too. He will be picked top 15, the 23-45 ratings he is seeing are way off imo. I can see BBI going wild with tons of posters just going off mock drafts and stats claiming we got Daniel Jones 2.0 by taking JJ at #6. It'll be madness, I'll have popcorn ready.