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Peter King's all time 53 man roster includes 4 Giants

jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 2/10/2024 9:09 am
Obviously, Lawrence Taylor at linebacker is one of them. No one could make a roster like this without him.

Maurice Carthon at fullback is another pick, not a position with a lot of competition.

Mark Bavaro is picked as a bench player. I love having him picked, and I think it is criminally negligent that he is not in the Hall of Fame.

The fourth is the truly surprise pick, David Tyree as special teams player.
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RE: Teddy Brischi ahead of Urlacher and Brooks!  
DefenseWins : 2/10/2024 12:56 pm : link
In comment 16394579 NormanAllen_95 said:
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Holy shit!

Richard Sherman and Darrell Green over Champ Bailey, Revis, Aeneas Williams and Charles Woodson.

Sorry, but this is laughable.


Darrell Green was one of the best corners to ever play the game.
RE: RE: Teddy Brischi ahead of Urlacher and Brooks!  
Giantsbigblue : 2/10/2024 1:05 pm : link
In comment 16394662 DefenseWins said:
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Holy shit!

Richard Sherman and Darrell Green over Champ Bailey, Revis, Aeneas Williams and Charles Woodson.

Sorry, but this is laughable.



Darrell Green was one of the best corners to ever play the game.


I remember later in his career when Joe Jurevicious trucked him over when Green tried to jam him and Green got up and ran him down and stripped the ball. Hell of a player and competitor.
RE: RE: Tyree?  
Del Shofner : 2/10/2024 1:18 pm : link
In comment 16394641 barens said:
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He was a good special teams players but the Giants as a franchise have had better special teams players (Reyna Thompson, Larry Flowers).



Reyna Thompson was as good as they get, better than Tyree.


Reyna Thompson is on his list too. Just not exclusively as a Giant.
RE: some of you need to learn to read it all  
clatterbuck : 2/10/2024 1:24 pm : link
In comment 16394554 SoZKillA said:
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"I don’t include players (like Walter Payton) who I covered sparingly, or whose careers were at least half over by the time I started in the business in 1984."


He should not termed it an "all-time 53."
RE: RE: Another Example of Why  
clatterbuck : 2/10/2024 1:26 pm : link
In comment 16394654 NormanAllen_95 said:
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are pretty much impossible. King should have bracketed his list with "players I have personally seen covering the league." Just an example, how do you compare offensive linemen like Jim Parker and Rosey Brown with more contemporary standouts like those on King's list? The nature of the game, rules, size, speed of athletes, etc., make it a kind of silly exercise. That being said, Terrell Davis is perpetually overrated, Tomlinson, good player, not great, Sanders made too many "business decisisons" about tackling, etc.



He DID say that, and then he added Himes Ward as a receiver over Larry Fitzgerald and or Calvin Johnson.


He used the term "all-time." It isn't.
RE: RE: Teddy Brischi ahead of Urlacher and Brooks!  
NormanAllen_95 : 2/10/2024 1:29 pm : link
In comment 16394662 DefenseWins said:
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Holy shit!

Richard Sherman and Darrell Green over Champ Bailey, Revis, Aeneas Williams and Charles Woodson.

Sorry, but this is laughable.



Darrell Green was one of the best corners to ever play the game.


Again, I am not disputing that. I gave him a break on that. However, every single one of the players that I mentioned I would rather have on my team than Green (if we are excluding specials). Darrel Green is pa top 10 corner of all time and I said I would gove him a break on that. However, I would NOT say he was a top 3 corner during King Fat mouth and his coverage of the league.Champ, Revis and Aeneas were definitely better players and Woodson probably was. But I won't hold his feet to the fire on Green.

I stand by every other one of my challenges.
RE: RE: RE: Another Example of Why  
NormanAllen_95 : 2/10/2024 1:32 pm : link
In comment 16394675 clatterbuck said:
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are pretty much impossible. King should have bracketed his list with "players I have personally seen covering the league." Just an example, how do you compare offensive linemen like Jim Parker and Rosey Brown with more contemporary standouts like those on King's list? The nature of the game, rules, size, speed of athletes, etc., make it a kind of silly exercise. That being said, Terrell Davis is perpetually overrated, Tomlinson, good player, not great, Sanders made too many "business decisisons" about tackling, etc.



He DID say that, and then he added Himes Ward as a receiver over Larry Fitzgerald and or Calvin Johnson.



He used the term "all-time." It isn't.


You are correct. Despite his stipulations he shouldve put "my incredibly dumb list of the top players at each position during the time I covered (should put quotes around that usage of the word) the NFL"

I dunno why I am so irritated by this. Lol.
RE: Tyree?  
GruningsOnTheHill : 2/10/2024 8:05 pm : link
In comment 16394524 Eric from BBI said:
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He was a good special teams players but the Giants as a franchise have had better special teams players (Reyna Thompson, Larry Flowers).

Leon Bright
RE: Loved Carthon...  
ElitoCanton : 2/10/2024 8:42 pm : link
No. Way was not near the blocker Carthon was. Carthon was like having a pro bowl OG at full back.


In comment 16394525 Milton said:
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But Charles Way deserves it above him.
Any list that does not have  
section125 : 2/10/2024 8:43 pm : link
Jim Brown on it is invalid. Jim Brown is probably the #1 player in the history of the NFL, eking out LT as the greatest player in NFL history.
RE: RE: Michael Strahan  
LauderdaleMatty : 2/10/2024 9:02 pm : link
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Hes on there.

This is a TERRIBLE list. He has Terrell Davis, Derrick Henry, Hines Ward, Cortez Kennedy on this list over guys like Walter Payton, Jim Brown, Terrell Owens, Marvin Harrison, Warren Sapp, Haloti Ngata...

God I hate Peter King and his nasally voice


He's just what's wrong w sports "journalists". God I miss Dr Z. Total clown
RE: There is way too much recency bias in here for me  
LauderdaleMatty : 2/10/2024 9:03 pm : link
In comment 16394551 Chris684 said:
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Hallmark of the click bait generation. King probably had someone else sort the list
RE: Ronnie Lott  
TDMaker85 : 2/11/2024 12:17 am : link
In comment 16394653 Giantsbigblue said:
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Not being on it is a crime unless I missed something. Also Mike Singletary I'd take over Seau and Bruschi.


Seriously. Tyrann Mathieu over Ronnie Lott? C'mon now.
It is hilarious watching people  
Mike from Ohio : 2/11/2024 8:39 am : link
Get angry about a list when they clearly didn’t read the article or understand the criteria. Oh, and also didn’t realize it is an opinion piece and it is ok for different people to have different opinions.

The point of this article is to discuss/debate who is there and who isn’t. It isn’t wrong because it’s an opinion piece.
RE: It is hilarious watching people  
Spider56 : 2/11/2024 11:14 am : link
In comment 16395022 Mike from Ohio said:
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Get angry about a list when they clearly didn’t read the article or understand the criteria. Oh, and also didn’t realize it is an opinion piece and it is ok for different people to have different opinions.

The point of this article is to discuss/debate who is there and who isn’t. It isn’t wrong because it’s an opinion piece.


This is true … but the whole thing loses credibility when you see Teddy Bruschi’s name vs many of the others mentioned. Maybe he’s top for guts and resilience, but not for actual play.
RE: RE: It is hilarious watching people  
Mike from Ohio : 2/11/2024 12:29 pm : link
In comment 16395150 Spider56 said:
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Get angry about a list when they clearly didn’t read the article or understand the criteria. Oh, and also didn’t realize it is an opinion piece and it is ok for different people to have different opinions.

The point of this article is to discuss/debate who is there and who isn’t. It isn’t wrong because it’s an opinion piece.



This is true … but the whole thing loses credibility when you see Teddy Bruschi’s name vs many of the others mentioned. Maybe he’s top for guts and resilience, but not for actual play.


It depends on what you are looking for. If it’s a team, do you want to add a guy like Bruschi for leadership who is also a really good player? Do you pick guys with complementary skills or just the most talented guys you can find?

I don’t see how it “loses credibility.” It isn’t what you or I would have picked, but it isn’t like he picked Tae Crowder.

And screw you all for making me come to the defense of Peter King :)
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