“According to ESPN's Dan Graziano, some people around the league believe the Patriots could address their quarterback need in free agency, trade back from No. 3 and fill other holes on their roster.” Link - ( New Window )
They are not in love with any options at 3 such as Maye or Daniels. Speaks volumes for a team that desperately needs a QB more so than most teams including the Giants. Been saying it for a while . This group of QBs may be good but they are not sure bets that a team would trade its future to acquire.
They are not in love with any options at 3 such as Maye or Daniels. Speaks volumes for a team that desperately needs a QB more so than most teams including the Giants. Been saying it for a while . This group of QBs may be good but they are not sure bets that a team would trade its future to acquire.
Orrrrr it could be just the Patriots being the Patriots and trading back for more picks.
They are not in love with any options at 3 such as Maye or Daniels. Speaks volumes for a team that desperately needs a QB more so than most teams including the Giants. Been saying it for a while . This group of QBs may be good but they are not sure bets that a team would trade its future to acquire.
Just because a team needs a QB doesn’t mean they have the same timeline or vision or plan on building a team. Kraft is old and on Jones schedule, he wants to win again before he croaks.
And we go through this every year with QBs. There are no sure bets at QB. But you take a bet sometimes and it pays off immensely, sometimes for the better part of two decades.
Teams have humans as decision makers and nobody can see into future or predict how, when, why, what. It’s all an educated, effort in gambling on organizational structure, health, resources.
They are not in love with any options at 3 such as Maye or Daniels. Speaks volumes for a team that desperately needs a QB more so than most teams including the Giants. Been saying it for a while . This group of QBs may be good but they are not sure bets that a team would trade its future to acquire.
Just because a team needs a QB doesn’t mean they have the same timeline or vision or plan on building a team. Kraft is old and on Jones schedule, he wants to win again before he croaks.
And we go through this every year with QBs. There are no sure bets at QB. But you take a bet sometimes and it pays off immensely, sometimes for the better part of two decades.
Teams have humans as decision makers and nobody can see into future or predict how, when, why, what. It’s all an educated, effort in gambling on organizational structure, health, resources.
Yep and if a team is trading back, that means a QB needy team is trading its future and trading up to draft one. Which makes what Bruner said nonsensical.
Not according to the value chart. It would need to be, say, our higher 2nd rounder plus our 4th rounder.
Done.
They’d still have #3, their 2nd and 3rd rounder.
Maye/Daniels, then edge and WR in whatever order.
Absolutely agree with this. But a team that's in the catbird seat like the pats aren't going to just listen to a straight value for value offer. It'll take at least a little bit more
They are not in love with any options at 3 such as Maye or Daniels.
No. Read the quote again...
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“According to ESPN's Dan Graziano, some people around the league believe the Patriots could address their quarterback need in free agency, trade back from No. 3 and fill other holes on their roster.”
All it means is people in the league think they could do x instead of y. It's just speculation masquerading as rumor in the never ending hunt for clicks.
They are not in love with any options at 3 such as Maye or Daniels.
No. Read the quote again...
Quote:
“According to ESPN's Dan Graziano, some people around the league believe the Patriots could address their quarterback need in free agency, trade back from No. 3 and fill other holes on their roster.”
All it means is people in the league think they could do x instead of y. It's just speculation masquerading as rumor in the never ending hunt for clicks.
Or it’s a real possibility the Patriots are considering.
They are not in love with any options at 3 such as Maye or Daniels.
No. Read the quote again...
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“According to ESPN's Dan Graziano, some people around the league believe the Patriots could address their quarterback need in free agency, trade back from No. 3 and fill other holes on their roster.”
All it means is people in the league think they could do x instead of y. It's just speculation masquerading as rumor in the never ending hunt for clicks.
Or it’s a real possibility the Patriots are considering.
But that was always the case. There is no new information.
Jerod Mayo's response to a question from Steve Burton of Channel 4 about what the team will do with the third overall pick...
“We’re gonna draft the best player for a position that is very important. You put the pieces together," Mayo said, with his trademark smile and laugh.
They are not in love with any options at 3 such as Maye or Daniels.
No. Read the quote again...
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“According to ESPN's Dan Graziano, some people around the league believe the Patriots could address their quarterback need in free agency, trade back from No. 3 and fill other holes on their roster.”
All it means is people in the league think they could do x instead of y. It's just speculation masquerading as rumor in the never ending hunt for clicks.
I was going to post something similar.
The words "some people believe" mean next to nothing.
Schoen has to make the move unless they like JJ McCarthy just as much as them then they can stand pat at 6 and take the best available QB. It's a guarantee that at least one of Maye or Daniels will be there at 3.
At the senior bowl it was reported all the talk was about us there an entry point into the top 3. If Pats take calls they are going to have a ton of suitors.
At the senior bowl it was reported all the talk was about us there an entry point into the top 3. If Pats take calls they are going to have a ton of suitors.
Not just for the QB's but teams that want Marvin Harrison Jr. will want to leap frog the Cardinals who will definitely take him at 4 if he's on the board.
If the patriots get their quarterback in free agency...
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@FelgerAndMazz
: "I’ve been told that Jonathan (Kraft) really wants a quarterback. And I think Jerod Mayo is probably leaning in that direction." - Ben Volin (Senior NFL Writer for the Boston Globe)"
Who knows... but I think Patriots are gonna stay and pick QB. Link - ( New Window )
or any spot, shouldn’t you do your due diligence and see the cost to trade up for positions in front of you and to trade down and have all that information going into the draft.
What if the player you are targeting stupidly tears their acl in a pickup basketball game before the draft or something stupid.
Be prepared for anything or end up drafting Cedric Jones or Toney.
They are not in love with any options at 3 such as Maye or Daniels. Speaks volumes for a team that desperately needs a QB more so than most teams including the Giants. Been saying it for a while . This group of QBs may be good but they are not sure bets that a team would trade its future to acquire.
Orrrrr it could be just the Patriots being the Patriots and trading back for more picks.
The first season in 25 without Belichick running the organization, can it really be said “just the Patriots being the Patriots”? Does anyone know they are going to be and their tendencies will be going forward?
I'd do it if only 2nd and 4th - they probably want more. My guess is they stay and pick QB, although pick 5 probably gets you the same QB at 3 + picks.
They are not in love with any options at 3 such as Maye or Daniels. Speaks volumes for a team that desperately needs a QB more so than most teams including the Giants. Been saying it for a while . This group of QBs may be good but they are not sure bets that a team would trade its future to acquire.
Just because a team needs a QB doesn’t mean they have the same timeline or vision or plan on building a team. Kraft is old and on Jones schedule, he wants to win again before he croaks.
And we go through this every year with QBs. There are no sure bets at QB. But you take a bet sometimes and it pays off immensely, sometimes for the better part of two decades.
Teams have humans as decision makers and nobody can see into future or predict how, when, why, what. It’s all an educated, effort in gambling on organizational structure, health, resources.
Yep and if a team is trading back, that means a QB needy team is trading its future and trading up to draft one. Which makes what Bruner said nonsensical.
You have your opinion I have mine. If someone is desperate enough they will do anything. If these 3 are top picks like some think then trading out of 3 when you desperately need a QB is nonsensical. People watch the college game see some of these guys dominate against inferior opponents and think they are the greatest thing since slice bread. Someone mentioned Haskins here. Yeah people were in love with him but failed to realize that OSU was head and shoulders above any Big 10 opponent and he had literally a minute to stand in the pocket to throw. When he got to the pros that was exposed. Had no pocket awareness. A lot of these top conferences play no defense and games are like shoot outs. Unless you are a professional scout, watching games on TV and marveling at these guys with over rated statistics is fools gold.
They are not in love with any options at 3 such as Maye or Daniels. Speaks volumes for a team that desperately needs a QB more so than most teams including the Giants. Been saying it for a while . This group of QBs may be good but they are not sure bets that a team would trade its future to acquire.
Just because a team needs a QB doesn’t mean they have the same timeline or vision or plan on building a team. Kraft is old and on Jones schedule, he wants to win again before he croaks.
And we go through this every year with QBs. There are no sure bets at QB. But you take a bet sometimes and it pays off immensely, sometimes for the better part of two decades.
Teams have humans as decision makers and nobody can see into future or predict how, when, why, what. It’s all an educated, effort in gambling on organizational structure, health, resources.
Yep and if a team is trading back, that means a QB needy team is trading its future and trading up to draft one. Which makes what Bruner said nonsensical.
You have your opinion I have mine. If someone is desperate enough they will do anything. If these 3 are top picks like some think then trading out of 3 when you desperately need a QB is nonsensical. People watch the college game see some of these guys dominate against inferior opponents and think they are the greatest thing since slice bread. Someone mentioned Haskins here. Yeah people were in love with him but failed to realize that OSU was head and shoulders above any Big 10 opponent and he had literally a minute to stand in the pocket to throw. When he got to the pros that was exposed. Had no pocket awareness. A lot of these top conferences play no defense and games are like shoot outs. Unless you are a professional scout, watching games on TV and marveling at these guys with over rated statistics is fools gold.
They would sign cousins probably, they wouldn't trade the pick with just Zappe and Jones as their qb options
which QB they get at 3. Its hard to say lets take the 3rd best best guy. If you can make a move in FA your happy with then its just a question of can you pass on MHJ
Well, it’s lying season- this tweet says exact opposite
which QB they get at 3. It’s hard to say let’s take the 3rd best best guy. If you can make a move in FA your happy with then its just a question of can you pass on MHJ
This is true. Teams tend to have much more specific views than the typical fan/media.
Orrrrr it could be just the Patriots being the Patriots and trading back for more picks.
The worst thing for a new coach would be a failed rookie QB. If they are not sold on the choices, trade down and build the team makes sense.
Get us to 3?
Just because a team needs a QB doesn’t mean they have the same timeline or vision or plan on building a team. Kraft is old and on Jones schedule, he wants to win again before he croaks.
And we go through this every year with QBs. There are no sure bets at QB. But you take a bet sometimes and it pays off immensely, sometimes for the better part of two decades.
Teams have humans as decision makers and nobody can see into future or predict how, when, why, what. It’s all an educated, effort in gambling on organizational structure, health, resources.
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They are not in love with any options at 3 such as Maye or Daniels. Speaks volumes for a team that desperately needs a QB more so than most teams including the Giants. Been saying it for a while . This group of QBs may be good but they are not sure bets that a team would trade its future to acquire.
Just because a team needs a QB doesn’t mean they have the same timeline or vision or plan on building a team. Kraft is old and on Jones schedule, he wants to win again before he croaks.
And we go through this every year with QBs. There are no sure bets at QB. But you take a bet sometimes and it pays off immensely, sometimes for the better part of two decades.
Teams have humans as decision makers and nobody can see into future or predict how, when, why, what. It’s all an educated, effort in gambling on organizational structure, health, resources.
Yep and if a team is trading back, that means a QB needy team is trading its future and trading up to draft one. Which makes what Bruner said nonsensical.
Get us to 3?
Not according to the value chart. It would need to be, say, our higher 2nd rounder plus our 4th rounder.
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Get us to 3?
Not according to the value chart. It would need to be, say, our higher 2nd rounder plus our 4th rounder.
Done.
They’d still have #3, their 2nd and 3rd rounder.
Maye/Daniels, then edge and WR in whatever order.
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Get us to 3?
Not according to the value chart. It would need to be, say, our higher 2nd rounder plus our 4th rounder.
Done.
They’d still have #3, their 2nd and 3rd rounder.
Maye/Daniels, then edge and WR in whatever order.
Absolutely agree with this. But a team that's in the catbird seat like the pats aren't going to just listen to a straight value for value offer. It'll take at least a little bit more
Well hopefully we didn't become the Jets, lol
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They are not in love with any options at 3 such as Maye or Daniels.
No. Read the quote again...
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“According to ESPN's Dan Graziano, some people around the league believe the Patriots could address their quarterback need in free agency, trade back from No. 3 and fill other holes on their roster.”
All it means is people in the league think they could do x instead of y. It's just speculation masquerading as rumor in the never ending hunt for clicks.
Or it’s a real possibility the Patriots are considering.
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They are not in love with any options at 3 such as Maye or Daniels.
No. Read the quote again...
Quote:
“According to ESPN's Dan Graziano, some people around the league believe the Patriots could address their quarterback need in free agency, trade back from No. 3 and fill other holes on their roster.”
All it means is people in the league think they could do x instead of y. It's just speculation masquerading as rumor in the never ending hunt for clicks.
Or it’s a real possibility the Patriots are considering.
“We’re gonna draft the best player for a position that is very important. You put the pieces together," Mayo said, with his trademark smile and laugh.
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They are not in love with any options at 3 such as Maye or Daniels.
No. Read the quote again...
Quote:
“According to ESPN's Dan Graziano, some people around the league believe the Patriots could address their quarterback need in free agency, trade back from No. 3 and fill other holes on their roster.”
All it means is people in the league think they could do x instead of y. It's just speculation masquerading as rumor in the never ending hunt for clicks.
I was going to post something similar.
The words "some people believe" mean next to nothing.
Not just for the QB's but teams that want Marvin Harrison Jr. will want to leap frog the Cardinals who will definitely take him at 4 if he's on the board.
I don't think they are going to trade a slam dunk for the opportunity at a couple of long range jumpers.
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Get us to 3?
Not according to the value chart. It would need to be, say, our higher 2nd rounder plus our 4th rounder.
Done. Hell, I'll give em a 3rd instead of the 4th.
@FelgerAndMazz
: "I’ve been told that Jonathan (Kraft) really wants a quarterback. And I think Jerod Mayo is probably leaning in that direction." - Ben Volin (Senior NFL Writer for the Boston Globe)"
Who knows... but I think Patriots are gonna stay and pick QB.
Link - ( New Window )
What if the player you are targeting stupidly tears their acl in a pickup basketball game before the draft or something stupid.
Be prepared for anything or end up drafting Cedric Jones or Toney.
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They are not in love with any options at 3 such as Maye or Daniels. Speaks volumes for a team that desperately needs a QB more so than most teams including the Giants. Been saying it for a while . This group of QBs may be good but they are not sure bets that a team would trade its future to acquire.
Orrrrr it could be just the Patriots being the Patriots and trading back for more picks.
The first season in 25 without Belichick running the organization, can it really be said “just the Patriots being the Patriots”? Does anyone know they are going to be and their tendencies will be going forward?
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They are not in love with any options at 3 such as Maye or Daniels. Speaks volumes for a team that desperately needs a QB more so than most teams including the Giants. Been saying it for a while . This group of QBs may be good but they are not sure bets that a team would trade its future to acquire.
Just because a team needs a QB doesn’t mean they have the same timeline or vision or plan on building a team. Kraft is old and on Jones schedule, he wants to win again before he croaks.
And we go through this every year with QBs. There are no sure bets at QB. But you take a bet sometimes and it pays off immensely, sometimes for the better part of two decades.
Teams have humans as decision makers and nobody can see into future or predict how, when, why, what. It’s all an educated, effort in gambling on organizational structure, health, resources.
Yep and if a team is trading back, that means a QB needy team is trading its future and trading up to draft one. Which makes what Bruner said nonsensical.
You have your opinion I have mine. If someone is desperate enough they will do anything. If these 3 are top picks like some think then trading out of 3 when you desperately need a QB is nonsensical. People watch the college game see some of these guys dominate against inferior opponents and think they are the greatest thing since slice bread. Someone mentioned Haskins here. Yeah people were in love with him but failed to realize that OSU was head and shoulders above any Big 10 opponent and he had literally a minute to stand in the pocket to throw. When he got to the pros that was exposed. Had no pocket awareness. A lot of these top conferences play no defense and games are like shoot outs. Unless you are a professional scout, watching games on TV and marveling at these guys with over rated statistics is fools gold.
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In comment 16394673 Bruner4329 said:
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They are not in love with any options at 3 such as Maye or Daniels. Speaks volumes for a team that desperately needs a QB more so than most teams including the Giants. Been saying it for a while . This group of QBs may be good but they are not sure bets that a team would trade its future to acquire.
Just because a team needs a QB doesn’t mean they have the same timeline or vision or plan on building a team. Kraft is old and on Jones schedule, he wants to win again before he croaks.
And we go through this every year with QBs. There are no sure bets at QB. But you take a bet sometimes and it pays off immensely, sometimes for the better part of two decades.
Teams have humans as decision makers and nobody can see into future or predict how, when, why, what. It’s all an educated, effort in gambling on organizational structure, health, resources.
Yep and if a team is trading back, that means a QB needy team is trading its future and trading up to draft one. Which makes what Bruner said nonsensical.
You have your opinion I have mine. If someone is desperate enough they will do anything. If these 3 are top picks like some think then trading out of 3 when you desperately need a QB is nonsensical. People watch the college game see some of these guys dominate against inferior opponents and think they are the greatest thing since slice bread. Someone mentioned Haskins here. Yeah people were in love with him but failed to realize that OSU was head and shoulders above any Big 10 opponent and he had literally a minute to stand in the pocket to throw. When he got to the pros that was exposed. Had no pocket awareness. A lot of these top conferences play no defense and games are like shoot outs. Unless you are a professional scout, watching games on TV and marveling at these guys with over rated statistics is fools gold.
They would sign cousins probably, they wouldn't trade the pick with just Zappe and Jones as their qb options
“All indications are they also will seriously consider taking a quarterback there.”
Tom Peliserro - ( New Window )
“All indications are they also will seriously consider taking a quarterback there.”
Tom Pelissero- Pats taking a QB at 3 - ( New Window )