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Tom Pelissero: Mac Jones likely to be traded

kelsto811 : 2/11/2024 10:55 am
Maybe this is obvious but with this news + the fact that Jerod Mayo in one of his opening press conferences said (paraphrasing) that they were going to ‘select a player at a very important position so do the math’ - seems like the Pats are almost certain to draft a QB at 3. I think the looking to sign a vet QB thing can still be true but I do not see them passing on a QB at 3 or trading down.
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I think if they go FA QB  
jvm52106 : 2/11/2024 11:01 am : link
They are drafting best player available (MHJ) at that spot.

Do not count on draft only. Pats will look to reload quickly here.
Giants may be left...  
bluewave : 2/11/2024 11:05 am : link
Drafting Maye instead of McCarthy...


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how could the Patriots do this to Jones?  
battttles : 2/11/2024 11:07 am : link
Jones just needs better protection. Jones needs playmakers at WR. The Patriots have done everything possible to screw Jones up. Nobody arrives earlier and works harder than Jones. They should be patient with Jones!
RE: how could the Patriots do this to Jones?  
eric2425ny : 2/11/2024 11:08 am : link
In comment 16395138 battttles said:
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Jones just needs better protection. Jones needs playmakers at WR. The Patriots have done everything possible to screw Jones up. Nobody arrives earlier and works harder than Jones. They should be patient with Jones!


lol, I see what you did there
Trade him for what?  
Mike from Ohio : 2/11/2024 11:11 am : link
A kicking tee? You can go get his skill set in the 4th round for a backup at a much cheaper price.
So in other words…  
Chris in Philly : 2/11/2024 11:12 am : link
Mac Jones is likely to be cut.
Mac Jones  
JoeyBigBlue : 2/11/2024 11:13 am : link
The best they can do is a late round pick swap for him. He has no value at this moment.
The Giants sure as hell don't want him....  
Fishmanjim57 : 2/11/2024 11:16 am : link
We're one Jones over the limit as it is.
RE: how could the Patriots do this to Jones?  
Fishmanjim57 : 2/11/2024 11:21 am : link
In comment 16395138 battttles said:
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Jones just needs better protection. Jones needs playmakers at WR. The Patriots have done everything possible to screw Jones up. Nobody arrives earlier and works harder than Jones. They should be patient with Jones!



Please, you sound like you're talking about 5 year Daniel who is worthy of a backup role instead of starting role.
Mayo  
BigBlueCane : 2/11/2024 11:24 am : link
will go for Daniels or Williams.
The only way he gets traded  
Jay on the Island : 2/11/2024 11:30 am : link
is if a team like the Jets trade Zach Wilson straight up for him. Nobody is giving up a draft pick for him. He will be cut
Mac Jones was a horrible investment...  
bw in dc : 2/11/2024 11:32 am : link
by BB.

If you don't think physical skills aren't important watch Mac Jones attempt to play QB in the NFL.

The Pats would be extremely fortunate to get any draft pick(s) for him. Just cut the guy.
RE: Mayo  
Sammo85 : 2/11/2024 11:35 am : link
In comment 16395155 BigBlueCane said:
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will go for Daniels or Williams.


Mayo isn’t making the call there. GM by committee with their scouting directors involved and the Krafts will have ultimate say.
Fishman Jim,  
winoguy : 2/11/2024 11:36 am : link
look up, something just went over your head ...
RE: Mac Jones was a horrible investment...  
Jay on the Island : 2/11/2024 11:36 am : link
In comment 16395161 bw in dc said:
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by BB.

If you don't think physical skills aren't important watch Mac Jones attempt to play QB in the NFL.

The Pats would be extremely fortunate to get any draft pick(s) for him. Just cut the guy.

It wasn't Belichick. Belichick wanted to wait to draft Davis Mills on day two but the FO kept pushing for Mac Jones so BB relented.
RE: RE: Mac Jones was a horrible investment...  
Sammo85 : 2/11/2024 11:42 am : link
In comment 16395167 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 16395161 bw in dc said:


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by BB.

If you don't think physical skills aren't important watch Mac Jones attempt to play QB in the NFL.

The Pats would be extremely fortunate to get any draft pick(s) for him. Just cut the guy.


It wasn't Belichick. Belichick wanted to wait to draft Davis Mills on day two but the FO kept pushing for Mac Jones so BB relented.


Belichick was kind of sold by Saban on Jones.
RE: RE: Mac Jones was a horrible investment...  
bw in dc : 2/11/2024 11:51 am : link
In comment 16395167 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 16395161 bw in dc said:


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by BB.

If you don't think physical skills aren't important watch Mac Jones attempt to play QB in the NFL.

The Pats would be extremely fortunate to get any draft pick(s) for him. Just cut the guy.


It wasn't Belichick. Belichick wanted to wait to draft Davis Mills on day two but the FO kept pushing for Mac Jones so BB relented.


Where did you hear that? Saban and Belichick are very tight. If you watched the HBO doc "The Art of Coaching...", with Saban and Belichick, it's clear BB leaned heavily on Saban for insights about draft prospects...

And last I checked, BB was the FO... ;)
RE: RE: RE: Mac Jones was a horrible investment...  
Jay on the Island : 2/11/2024 12:19 pm : link
In comment 16395172 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16395167 Jay on the Island said:


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In comment 16395161 bw in dc said:


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by BB.

If you don't think physical skills aren't important watch Mac Jones attempt to play QB in the NFL.

The Pats would be extremely fortunate to get any draft pick(s) for him. Just cut the guy.


It wasn't Belichick. Belichick wanted to wait to draft Davis Mills on day two but the FO kept pushing for Mac Jones so BB relented.



Where did you hear that? Saban and Belichick are very tight. If you watched the HBO doc "The Art of Coaching...", with Saban and Belichick, it's clear BB leaned heavily on Saban for insights about draft prospects...

And last I checked, BB was the FO... ;)

According to a new report by The Athletic, Patriots scouts grew frustrated with Belichick ignoring their input. But after Nick Caserio left to become the Houston Texans' general manager in 2021, Belichick vowed to take a more collaborative approach to the draft.

Reportedly, while Belichick liked Jones as a prospect, he would have preferred to wait and instead take Davis Mills to address their quarterback need. Ultimately, though, the veteran coach decided to listen to his scouts' advice and take Jones at No. 15 overall in the 2021 NFL Draft.
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RE: Giants may be left...  
GFAN52 : 2/11/2024 12:22 pm : link
In comment 16395135 bluewave said:
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Drafting Maye instead of McCarthy...


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Doubt Maye drops.
What’s With The Common Delusion  
MojoEd : 2/11/2024 12:31 pm : link
That players who busted have any trade value?
RE: how could the Patriots do this to Jones?  
Scooter185 : 2/11/2024 12:34 pm : link
In comment 16395138 battttles said:
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Jones just needs better protection. Jones needs playmakers at WR. The Patriots have done everything possible to screw Jones up. Nobody arrives earlier and works harder than Jones. They should be patient with Jones!


And he put up amazing numbers versus Minnesota! Can't believe he's not being handed a 50 million dollar a year contract!
RE: how could the Patriots do this to Jones?  
UberAlias : 2/11/2024 12:43 pm : link
In comment 16395138 battttles said:
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Jones just needs better protection. Jones needs playmakers at WR. The Patriots have done everything possible to screw Jones up. Nobody arrives earlier and works harder than Jones. They should be patient with Jones!
Haha. Nice.
RE: RE: how could the Patriots do this to Jones?  
MojoEd : 2/11/2024 12:50 pm : link
In comment 16395213 UberAlias said:
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In comment 16395138 battttles said:


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Jones just needs better protection. Jones needs playmakers at WR. The Patriots have done everything possible to screw Jones up. Nobody arrives earlier and works harder than Jones. They should be patient with Jones!

Haha. Nice.

Excellent comp. At the end of season with Pats/BB divorce rumors swirling, the line that BB ruined Mac Jones was floated.
RE: I think if they go FA QB  
BillT : 2/11/2024 1:51 pm : link
In comment 16395130 jvm52106 said:
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They are drafting best player available (MHJ) at that spot.

Do not count on draft only. Pats will look to reload quickly here.

But what FA QB? The 35 year-olds Cousins or Tannehill. Jacoby Brisset? Mayfield who the Bucs will probably resign before FA? Slim pickings.
I  
AcidTest : 2/11/2024 2:13 pm : link
don't think Mac Jones has any trade value, maybe for a seventh, or as somebody said, a pick swap. He has been awful.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/11/2024 3:00 pm : link
I don’t know the dude, but I actually feel bad for him. He looked like a legit QB his rookie season and then BB-in a move that made no fucking sense in real time-gave the offensive keys to Patricia and Judge. Mac took a huge step back under those two, which shouldn’t be showing at all. And I think everything snowballed from there.
RE: …  
Sammo85 : 2/11/2024 4:05 pm : link
In comment 16395290 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I don’t know the dude, but I actually feel bad for him. He looked like a legit QB his rookie season and then BB-in a move that made no fucking sense in real time-gave the offensive keys to Patricia and Judge. Mac took a huge step back under those two, which shouldn’t be showing at all. And I think everything snowballed from there.


They relied on defense, run game, and ran a QB friendly short passing game. McDaniels designed it basic and had a good relationship with Jones.
Mac Jones may be traded  
56goat : 2/11/2024 5:58 pm : link
but not to us.
What if they make a trade for Justin Fields and select MHjr  
GFAN52 : 2/11/2024 8:12 pm : link
with the 3rd pick assuming the Bears go QB as I believe they will.
RE: Mac Jones  
81_Great_Dane : 2/12/2024 12:53 am : link
In comment 16395146 JoeyBigBlue said:
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The best they can do is a late round pick swap for him. He has no value at this moment.
I’d love to the Giants trade a 4th for Mac Jones and a 3rd.
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