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Second guess of the game

JT039 : 2/11/2024 10:56 pm
Take or receive the ball.

IMO the second guess of the game  
mfsd : 2/11/2024 11:03 pm : link
is Greenlaw should have just run onto the field, instead of stopping and starting and blowing his Achilles

Can make the case that injury cost the 49ers the game
Going for the FG  
spike : 2/11/2024 11:07 pm : link
instead of TD in overtime
Not falling on the muffed punt  
Matt123 : 2/11/2024 11:11 pm : link
Trying to pick the ball up cost them.

Second guess for me...  
bw in dc : 2/11/2024 11:13 pm : link
was the play calling on 2nd and 3rd down and goal in OT.

Shanahan found something on the left side and between the tackles on OT, but he ran that god damn stretch play to the right on 2nd and 4 and got nothing with McCaffrey. I would have run consecutive plays to the left.

I think a Purdy bootleg was there, too. But I don't think Shanahan ever ran it the entire game.
Horrible 3rd down call  
kcgiants : 2/11/2024 11:14 pm : link
at the goal line. Shanahan called a horrible 2nd half and OT game. Should have called a roll out with an option for Purdy to throw it or run it in himself.
RE: Not falling on the muffed punt  
bw in dc : 2/11/2024 11:14 pm : link
In comment 16395991 Matt123 said:
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Trying to pick the ball up cost them.


I don't know. That was a tough play.

Chiefs, let's be honest, got some football luck on that...
RE: Going for the FG  
jvm52106 : 2/11/2024 11:14 pm : link
In comment 16395988 spike said:
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instead of TD in overtime


Agreed. The smart choice is go for it and at worse you give KC the ball inside their own 10 yard line..
RE: Horrible 3rd down call  
bw in dc : 2/11/2024 11:21 pm : link
In comment 16396001 kcgiants said:
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at the goal line. Shanahan called a horrible 2nd half and OT game. Should have called a roll out with an option for Purdy to throw it or run it in himself.


Agreed. Shanahan got too pass happy in the 3rd quarter.
RE: RE: Horrible 3rd down call  
section125 : 2/11/2024 11:31 pm : link
In comment 16396020 bw in dc said:
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at the goal line. Shanahan called a horrible 2nd half and OT game. Should have called a roll out with an option for Purdy to throw it or run it in himself.



Agreed. Shanahan got too pass happy in the 3rd quarter.


They ran the ball all the way down the field and then stopped. Why?
Mahomes makes it look so easy  
BH28 : 2/11/2024 11:32 pm : link
that's it's easy to second guess that, but it's not even close. You take the ball first every time.

The second guess I have is why did the niners wait until overtime to start running the ball?
RE: RE: Horrible 3rd down call  
kcgiants : 2/11/2024 11:33 pm : link
In comment 16396020 bw in dc said:
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at the goal line. Shanahan called a horrible 2nd half and OT game. Should have called a roll out with an option for Purdy to throw it or run it in himself.



Agreed. Shanahan got too pass happy in the 3rd quarter.

Total agreed. He stopped running until he fell behind and came back when he started to run again and took the lead.
The 3 play calls at the goal line in OT horrible.
RE: RE: Horrible 3rd down call  
NormanAllen_95 : 2/11/2024 11:38 pm : link
In comment 16396020 bw in dc said:
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at the goal line. Shanahan called a horrible 2nd half and OT game. Should have called a roll out with an option for Purdy to throw it or run it in himself.



Agreed. Shanahan got too pass happy in the 3rd quarter.


This was IT for me. I couldnt figure out why the 9ers completely anandoned the rum at oints when they were ripping chunks of yardage from the Chiefs. It seems like every few years, one coach just goes full retard and completely abndons what worked for them.
A little more nitpicky from me  
lax counsel : 2/11/2024 11:40 pm : link
and I posted this on a another thread in relation to something romo said, but why doesn’t Shanahan call a timeout on that last play? The 49ers were shot and looked lost on the formation. Appeared to me he assumed the Chiefs would take it to the next quarter.
RE: A little more nitpicky from me  
kcgiants : 2/11/2024 11:51 pm : link
In comment 16396060 lax counsel said:
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and I posted this on a another thread in relation to something romo said, but why doesn’t Shanahan call a timeout on that last play? The 49ers were shot and looked lost on the formation. Appeared to me he assumed the Chiefs would take it to the next quarter.

Totally agree. Even if the Chiefs took it to the next quarter if they score a TD its over also. It was sudden death if they scored a TD at the end of the 1st quarter or the next quarter.
RE: RE: RE: Horrible 3rd down call  
BigBlueDent : 2/11/2024 11:53 pm : link
In comment 16396057 NormanAllen_95 said:
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at the goal line. Shanahan called a horrible 2nd half and OT game. Should have called a roll out with an option for Purdy to throw it or run it in himself.



Agreed. Shanahan got too pass happy in the 3rd quarter.



This was IT for me. I couldnt figure out why the 9ers completely anandoned the rum at oints when they were ripping chunks of yardage from the Chiefs. It seems like every few years, one coach just goes full retard and completely abndons what worked for them.


And its constantly Kyle Shanahan. I make a call to Bellichik's people if I'm the brass in SF
Take or receive?  
jhibb : 2/12/2024 12:15 am : link
Assuming you meant kick or receive, lol...

I'm still not sure, which is why I think I like how they've set this up.

There are obvious advantages to going second, like how they talked about it on air that you know to go for it on 4th down and such. But if it remains tied after each team gets a possession and you received first, you now get to receive with the chance to win in sudden death. In essence, you potentially get two possessions to the opponent's one.
That missed x-tra point came back to haunt them(9ers)  
Blue21 : 2/12/2024 8:01 am : link
Not a second guess but crucial play
Relying too much on the pass game  
logman : 2/12/2024 8:02 am : link
early in the second half.
Not giving McCaffrey more carries  
ShockNRoll : 2/12/2024 9:45 am : link
They led for the majority of the game, and their workhorse RB had 22 carries. He should have had over 30. It's not like he was gashing the Niners for 10+ yard runs, but he was picking up tough yards all night.

Specifically, when they got the ball back after the Chiefs first possession in the second half, up 10-3, McCaffrey did not touch the ball on a 3 and out.
The mistake of the game was 49ers not going for it in OT  
GiantTuff1 : 2/12/2024 9:57 am : link
and instead settling for a FG.

You have to be a masochist and an idiot to be that deep, only take 3 points, and know you are staring across the field from a generation talent at QB who was getting in rhythm and just DYING to have the chance to win it all with a TD.

Huge blunder by SF.

It's the SuperBowl. Push the chips to the center of the table.
these games aren't official  
djm : 2/12/2024 10:24 am : link
until fans second guess everything.

MAybe if SF didn't play like assholes for the first 30 minutes or so and maybe if they converted some 3rd downs on about 10 different occasions they'd have won.

But yea, they lost the game because of choosing to receive the OT kickoff. Because that's so much more easier for some to digest.

Of course, we all know the HC probably isn't telling anyone the truth in these PCs because what does he have to gain by implying that the D might have been exhausted and he wanted to rest them early on in OT.

Who cares. The Chiefs were better when it mattered most. The OT kickoff debate is cheap low hanging fruit.
RE: these games aren't official  
rnargi : 2/12/2024 11:55 am : link
In comment 16396430 djm said:
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until fans second guess everything.

MAybe if SF didn't play like assholes for the first 30 minutes or so and maybe if they converted some 3rd downs on about 10 different occasions they'd have won.

But yea, they lost the game because of choosing to receive the OT kickoff. Because that's so much more easier for some to digest.

Of course, we all know the HC probably isn't telling anyone the truth in these PCs because what does he have to gain by implying that the D might have been exhausted and he wanted to rest them early on in OT.

Who cares. The Chiefs were better when it mattered most. The OT kickoff debate is cheap low hanging fruit.


Agreed. SF had the ball 2nd and 5 with 2:47 at the KC 35 with KC only having 2 time outs. They threw on 2nd down for no gain, and ran the clock down to the 2 minute warning. On 3rd down, they threw again (knocked down at the line) and kicked the FG with 1:57. They had 2 plays needing 5 yards with CMC in the backfield. They didn't run. They used 50 seconds over those two plays total, and didn't gain a yard nor did they force KC to use a timeout. IMV, the game was over right there. Everyone knew KC was going to score at least a FG with nearly 2 minutes and 2 timeouts left and if they didn't score the TD in regulation, they then would win in OT.
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