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Another year without the Cowboys or Eagles winning

Chris684 : 2/11/2024 11:18 pm
And while we have been stuck in a rather dark period for better than 10 years now, we’ve lost almost no ground on them in the big picture as a franchise.

Cowboys haven’t even sniffed a Super Bowl since the mid-90s and we still stand to tie them up with 5 when we win our next.

The 2017 Eagles really hurt in that the trophy case is no longer empty, but I’ll still take our 4 to their 1.

And yes, considering the odds are always with the field, it’s important to recognize stuff like this at the end of the season. If we can just get our shit together we’ll be ok.

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Route 9 : 2/12/2024 9:17 am : link
Eh. They did make the playoffs last year and won more games in the playoffs than Dallas and Philly did this year. So there's something. Why they paid Jones all that money is beyond me.

Only thing Dallas has over "us" is one more Super Bowl.

Their post season record is absolutely pathetic post Aikman Super Bowl victory in 1995.

Jamie ... pull that shit up
Watching the game last night  
cosmicj : 2/12/2024 9:18 am : link
I gave up hope I’d ever see another Giants championship.

An organization as well run as the 49ers and they run into the Reid Mahomes buzzsaw. All that talent and work and they suffer a devastating defeat.

I think 2011 was it for us.
RE: Watching the game last night  
Lambuth_Special : 2/12/2024 9:32 am : link
In comment 16396318 cosmicj said:
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I gave up hope I’d ever see another Giants championship.

An organization as well run as the 49ers and they run into the Reid Mahomes buzzsaw. All that talent and work and they suffer a devastating defeat.

I think 2011 was it for us.


Although I'm not that fatalist, I do think the Giants invited bad football karma for potentially decades with the 2018 draft. Here is a team that had two magical runs in 2007 and 2011, was given a rare chance at rebuilding with the 2nd pick in the draft after a 3-13, looked at the football landscape (and the foundations of what coaches like Reid, McVay, and Shannahan were building), and said to themselves, "you know what? What we really need is a running back!"

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth (and I don't even mean they had to draft Darnold or something. At least pick up the damn phone and listen to the trade offers).
RE: RE: RE: I’d really rather see competitive Giants football  
Chris684 : 2/12/2024 9:44 am : link
In comment 16396307 ajr2456 said:
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Than stroll down memory lane and count Superbowls over the decades. Your team’s history is important, but so is looking forward to a big game you have some hope of winning.

To each their own.



Yea, because it’s not possible to want your team to be better but also have some perspective for a moment while we’re not at the top.




What’s the perspective? They were good 13 years ago? Cool.

13 years is a long time without being competitive


Why are you such a douche? The perspective, seeing as you lack any of it, is that in sports the odds are always going to be with the field and since you're not winning every year, it's helpful to look at the overall franchise resume.

How else can you ultimately measure NFL franchises if not by Super Bowl titles, or if you want to go back further, overall championships?

Since you are too busy being a cry baby, obviously you don't see this.
RE: Watching the game last night  
Route 9 : 2/12/2024 9:47 am : link
In comment 16396318 cosmicj said:
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I gave up hope I’d ever see another Giants championship.

An organization as well run as the 49ers and they run into the Reid Mahomes buzzsaw. All that talent and work and they suffer a devastating defeat.

I think 2011 was it for us.


Just 4 years ago the Chiefs went 50 years without a Super Bowl appearance. Now they're the team everyone is sick of.
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Route 9 : 2/12/2024 9:47 am : link
And now after all of those years of dominance, New England is back to being trash
RE: RE: RE: RE: I’d really rather see competitive Giants football  
ajr2456 : 2/12/2024 10:11 am : link
In comment 16396356 Chris684 said:
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Why are you such a douche? The perspective, seeing as you lack any of it, is that in sports the odds are always going to be with the field and since you're not winning every year, it's helpful to look at the overall franchise resume.

How else can you ultimately measure NFL franchises if not by Super Bowl titles, or if you want to go back further, overall championships?

Since you are too busy being a cry baby, obviously you don't see this.


The attitude of resting on their laurels is exactly why the Giants are in the spot they are.

You can call it being a cry baby if you want, but I want to watch a good football team. Two outlier Super Bowl runs 13 and 17 years ago don’t change that.

The Giants have made the postseason 10 times in the last 30 years. They have been under .500 15 of the other years.
JFC  
djm : 2/12/2024 10:16 am : link
you guys are insufferable.

The OP merely pointed out it's a relief to see Dallas and Philly (And SF) not win a title once again.

I am sure you can find something else to argue about other than this particular thread. Throw a dart at any other page 1 topic.
blame the fans!  
djm : 2/12/2024 10:20 am : link
It's their fault! Resting on their laurels? WTF are you talking about. The owner has fired more people than the twitter madman.

The Giants have been bad for a number of reasons, the least of all being they are too loyal. They go through staff and coaches like I go through socks. They have been bad because they haven't drafted enough good and great players.

It aint the fans. It aint this thread. IT's PLAYERS. Not enough of them.
The Giants aren’t too loyal?  
ajr2456 : 2/12/2024 10:24 am : link
Not sure what fantasy you’re living in.
RE: blame the fans!  
Chris684 : 2/12/2024 10:27 am : link
In comment 16396424 djm said:
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It's their fault! Resting on their laurels? WTF are you talking about. The owner has fired more people than the twitter madman.

The Giants have been bad for a number of reasons, the least of all being they are too loyal. They go through staff and coaches like I go through socks. They have been bad because they haven't drafted enough good and great players.

It aint the fans. It aint this thread. IT's PLAYERS. Not enough of them.


The funny thing is, I opened by acknowledging the "dark period" we've been in.

This was far from a chest thumping exercise. Just an acknowledgement that overall, we've had it pretty good given how hard it is to actually win.
RE: The Giants aren’t too loyal?  
djm : 2/12/2024 10:33 am : link
In comment 16396431 ajr2456 said:
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Not sure what fantasy you’re living in.


Dude stop. Please. Can you go one fucking day without going "there." ONE DAY.

SInce 2013 the Giants wacked so many coaches, asst coaches and GMS I have literally lost count.

Go ahead and say it....you can't not say it.
we haven't even seen a HC last more than 2 years  
djm : 2/12/2024 10:36 am : link
since Coughlin was unfairly bounced back in 2015.





 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/12/2024 10:39 am : link
I don’t TC was ‘unfairly’ bounced after 15. The only thing unfair about that was that Reese wasn’t shown the door either.
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ajr2456 : 2/12/2024 10:39 am : link
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Not sure what fantasy you’re living in.



Dude stop. Please. Can you go one fucking day without going "there." ONE DAY.

SInce 2013 the Giants wacked so many coaches, asst coaches and GMS I have literally lost count.

Go ahead and say it....you can't not say it.


You’ve lost count at two GMS?

Can you stop? Sorry the truth bothers you so much. You do this on every thread where someone is critical of the Giant.

The Giants weren’t too loyal to Reese, Coughlin, Eli? They all should have been moved on two years before they actually were moved on from. That’s playing a role in why the Giants are where they are at. They weren’t too loyal to Gettleman? Him blowing every pick in 2021 is a big reason why the Giants are where they’re at, he should have never been given the chance. They haven’t been too loyal to Daniel Jones?
The Giants have been awful most of the last 11 years  
Sean : 2/12/2024 10:40 am : link
It's been way too long. But, I find it funny how the Knicks are viewed vs the Giants. I'll hop on Knick threads and I see a ton of pollyannas on those threads praising everything they do. Granted, they've been well run the last few years, but that franchise has been a trainwreck for most of the last 23 years. I've always viewed the Knick fan as much more of a homer and more arrogant than the Giant fan. I do root for the Knicks, but it's interesting how the perspectives are different. The Giants have been the far better franchise for the last 20 years.
Taking joy in the Cowboys and Eagles not winning  
ajr2456 : 2/12/2024 10:43 am : link
Is such a loser mentality. The Eagles have won one more recently, and almost won last year. The Cowboys are in the playoffs more often than not.

The Knicks, the worst run team since the late 90s, has 5 more playoff appearances over the last 30 years, and 3 more since the Giants last won a Super Bowl. That’s where the Giants are right now.
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Lambuth_Special : 2/12/2024 10:45 am : link
In comment 16396469 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I don’t TC was ‘unfairly’ bounced after 15. The only thing unfair about that was that Reese wasn’t shown the door either.


No coach in history has survived missing the playoffs six out of seven years. None. The only coaches in modern history who have kept their jobs after missing the playoffs 4 straight years are Norv Turner and Jason Garrett.

And I know djm will disagree, but Coughlin's game management in 2015 was bad. All the data on the team indicated that they should've finished 8-8. That would've probably bought TC another season.
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djm : 2/12/2024 10:47 am : link
In comment 16396469 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I don’t TC was ‘unfairly’ bounced after 15. The only thing unfair about that was that Reese wasn’t shown the door either.


Yea well we still have never recovered. And that 2015 team was still the best offense we have seen here since and despite fielding the shittiest defense in the entire league that team was in nearly every game.

I wish we had Coughlin 2016. Call me crazy I would bet both nuts that 2016 team does better with a real HC at the helm.

IT's done so this is pointless. Just don't tell me the Giants are too fucking loyal all because of Daniel Jones. Enough already.
To the OP: there is literally nothing important to recognize here.  
ThomasG : 2/12/2024 10:47 am : link


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And yes, considering the odds are always with the field, it’s important to recognize stuff like this at the end of the season.

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Lambuth_Special : 2/12/2024 10:48 am : link
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No coach in history has survived missing the playoffs six out of seven years.


Sorry, not history, since 1980.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/12/2024 10:48 am : link
I guess it boils down to this…would you rather have a SF like run where you’re competitive most seasons, but never get to the mountaintop or a Giants like run where you’re mostly shit, but end up winning a Lombardi? I would go the latter, but there has to be some happy medium.
The Giants are selectively loyal  
Sean : 2/12/2024 10:49 am : link
I doubt McAdoo, Shurmur & Judge felt any loyalty. But, whatever it is about this QB, I don't know.
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djm : 2/12/2024 10:49 am : link
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Not sure what fantasy you’re living in.



Dude stop. Please. Can you go one fucking day without going "there." ONE DAY.

SInce 2013 the Giants wacked so many coaches, asst coaches and GMS I have literally lost count.

Go ahead and say it....you can't not say it.



You’ve lost count at two GMS?

Can you stop? Sorry the truth bothers you so much. You do this on every thread where someone is critical of the Giant.

The Giants weren’t too loyal to Reese, Coughlin, Eli? They all should have been moved on two years before they actually were moved on from. That’s playing a role in why the Giants are where they are at. They weren’t too loyal to Gettleman? Him blowing every pick in 2021 is a big reason why the Giants are where they’re at, he should have never been given the chance. They haven’t been too loyal to Daniel Jones?


You're wrong on this one. You came on a thread that had nothing to do with your obsessive horse shit and bitched. And now you're insisting that firing 2 GMS and FOUR, count them....FOUR head coaches in UNDER TEN YEARS, as too loyal.

Just find another thread.
ill say it for you...  
djm : 2/12/2024 10:50 am : link
Daniel Jones
Daniel Jones
Daniel Jones
Daniel Jones
Daniel Jones
Daniel Jones
Daniel Jones

Should have fired him, Cut him. Traded him. Never drafted him. NEver signed him long term. Over paid. OVER PAID!!!!

Happy now? EVen though it has nothing to do with the OP. Good.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/12/2024 10:51 am : link
I think there’s some odd loyalty to Jones. I really do. It could be as simple as Mara personally liking the guy. And again-as stated ad nausem-Jones seems like a good kid and a hard worker. That’s just my opinion.
There was certainly no  
ajr2456 : 2/12/2024 10:52 am : link
“We’ve done everything to screw it up” for Shurmur or Judge.

Instead by refusing to invest in the QB position after drafting Jones, they left Judge with the situation that ultimately got him fired. If they had Tyrod when Jones got hurt that year, Judge probably doesn’t get fired.
RE: There was certainly no  
Lambuth_Special : 2/12/2024 10:54 am : link
In comment 16396505 ajr2456 said:
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“We’ve done everything to screw it up” for Shurmur or Judge.

Instead by refusing to invest in the QB position after drafting Jones, they left Judge with the situation that ultimately got him fired. If they had Tyrod when Jones got hurt that year, Judge probably doesn’t get fired.


And the first thing Judge did after he was fired was gush about how tough Jones was.

Whatever he's doing in that building, it's worked across multiple regimes now. I don't think it's neccessarily Mara.
RE: Taking joy in the Cowboys and Eagles not winning  
Chris684 : 2/12/2024 10:55 am : link
In comment 16396478 ajr2456 said:
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Is such a loser mentality. The Eagles have won one more recently, and almost won last year. The Cowboys are in the playoffs more often than not.

The Knicks, the worst run team since the late 90s, has 5 more playoff appearances over the last 30 years, and 3 more since the Giants last won a Super Bowl. That’s where the Giants are right now.


The Eagles "almost" won it last year lol.

Funny how the BBI fan police throw that word around as casually as they like but if you ever apply the word "almost" to anything the Giants do you are a blind loyalist pollyanna.

RE: RE: RE: RE: The Giants aren’t too loyal?  
ajr2456 : 2/12/2024 10:56 am : link
In comment 16396495 djm said:
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You're wrong on this one. You came on a thread that had nothing to do with your obsessive horse shit and bitched. And now you're insisting that firing 2 GMS and FOUR, count them....FOUR head coaches in UNDER TEN YEARS, as too loyal.

Just find another thread.


I’m not wrong. You don’t have to engage.

And what’s my horse shit? That the Giants have sucked for 13 years? That gloating about the Cowboys and Eagles not winning the Super Bowl after making the playoffs is stupid?

Just like you have opinions, other people have options. Why you get so mad about it is wild to me.
RE: RE: Taking joy in the Cowboys and Eagles not winning  
ajr2456 : 2/12/2024 10:57 am : link
In comment 16396513 Chris684 said:
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Is such a loser mentality. The Eagles have won one more recently, and almost won last year. The Cowboys are in the playoffs more often than not.

The Knicks, the worst run team since the late 90s, has 5 more playoff appearances over the last 30 years, and 3 more since the Giants last won a Super Bowl. That’s where the Giants are right now.



The Eagles "almost" won it last year lol.

Funny how the BBI fan police throw that word around as casually as they like but if you ever apply the word "almost" to anything the Giants do you are a blind loyalist pollyanna.


What have the Giants almost done the last 13 years? The Eagles were leading in the 4th quarter. I think almost applied to that. What would you call it?
RE: RE: RE: Taking joy in the Cowboys and Eagles not winning  
Chris684 : 2/12/2024 11:03 am : link
In comment 16396521 ajr2456 said:
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Is such a loser mentality. The Eagles have won one more recently, and almost won last year. The Cowboys are in the playoffs more often than not.

The Knicks, the worst run team since the late 90s, has 5 more playoff appearances over the last 30 years, and 3 more since the Giants last won a Super Bowl. That’s where the Giants are right now.



The Eagles "almost" won it last year lol.

Funny how the BBI fan police throw that word around as casually as they like but if you ever apply the word "almost" to anything the Giants do you are a blind loyalist pollyanna.




What have the Giants almost done the last 13 years? The Eagles were leading in the 4th quarter. I think almost applied to that. What would you call it?


You seem incapable of separating a fan from someone who actually has clout within the Giants organization. But I'd expect anyone who actually likes the Giants to share that sentiment right around 11:30 EST last night, except you obviously.

I am a random fan on a message board posting that I'm happy that at the end of another season, both the Cowboys and Eagles were championship-less again. It wasn't even a gloat as I stated we've been in a dark period.

This seems like a you problem, not a me problem.

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djm : 2/12/2024 11:05 am : link
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You're wrong on this one. You came on a thread that had nothing to do with your obsessive horse shit and bitched. And now you're insisting that firing 2 GMS and FOUR, count them....FOUR head coaches in UNDER TEN YEARS, as too loyal.

Just find another thread.



I’m not wrong. You don’t have to engage.

And what’s my horse shit? That the Giants have sucked for 13 years? That gloating about the Cowboys and Eagles not winning the Super Bowl after making the playoffs is stupid?

Just like you have opinions, other people have options. Why you get so mad about it is wild to me.


You're making points that aren't pertinent to this thread or what I said earlier. You came on a thread that merely showed relief that our rivals caved in January and started talking about too much loyalty and now you're spinning off into how much NYG have sucked. Everyone knows that and again, not pertinent at all to the OP or my counter point that Mara has fired everyone over and over again. It's not loyalty issues. It's bad drafts.

And every point you make is rooted in DJ. You can't let one thread go, even one that has nothing to do with Jones.

I know you're mad. I know you want better play. We all do. I empathize with every NYG fan. I will leave it at that. Common ground.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Giants aren’t too loyal?  
ajr2456 : 2/12/2024 11:27 am : link
In comment 16396538 djm said:
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You're making points that aren't pertinent to this thread or what I said earlier. You came on a thread that merely showed relief that our rivals caved in January and started talking about too much loyalty and now you're spinning off into how much NYG have sucked. Everyone knows that and again, not pertinent at all to the OP or my counter point that Mara has fired everyone over and over again. It's not loyalty issues. It's bad drafts.

And every point you make is rooted in DJ. You can't let one thread go, even one that has nothing to do with Jones.

I know you're mad. I know you want better play. We all do. I empathize with every NYG fan. I will leave it at that. Common ground.


You may want to reread the thread because you brought up loyalty and I responded to it.

I mentioned Jones has one name of several the Giants have been too loyal to and has put them in the predicament they are in, you seem to only want to focus on that name.
If a Giants player said  
ajr2456 : 2/12/2024 11:29 am : link
“Well at least the Eagles or Cowboys didn’t win” we’d be running them out of town.

Set your bar higher, and the team will begin to do the same. They see the complacency, and mirror it.
the players aren't saying it  
djm : 2/12/2024 11:42 am : link
fans are. Whatever. This thread was harmless.
RE: If a Giants player said  
Chris684 : 2/12/2024 11:46 am : link
In comment 16396589 ajr2456 said:
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“Well at least the Eagles or Cowboys didn’t win” we’d be running them out of town.

Set your bar higher, and the team will begin to do the same. They see the complacency, and mirror it.


Sounds like you're over-valuing the impact of yourself as a fan.

Really weird performance by you on this thread.
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HomerJones45 : 2/12/2024 11:48 am : link
In comment 16396487 Lambuth_Special said:
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I don’t TC was ‘unfairly’ bounced after 15. The only thing unfair about that was that Reese wasn’t shown the door either.



No coach in history has survived missing the playoffs six out of seven years. None. The only coaches in modern history who have kept their jobs after missing the playoffs 4 straight years are Norv Turner and Jason Garrett.

And I know djm will disagree, but Coughlin's game management in 2015 was bad. All the data on the team indicated that they should've finished 8-8. That would've probably bought TC another season.
Yeah, the guy coached two different teams to 4 conference championship games and two Super Bowls but his "game management", whatever that is supposed to be, was "bad" because some sportswriter who never coached a youth football team had a better, sure fire idea. And incredibly, we have ownership that listens to this stupid shit.

We've done so much better with his 4 successors, and that assumes #4 makes it which is 50-50 right now.

The same tub thumpers were trying that with Tomlin this season only the Rooneys aren't morons and didn't pay any attention to it.
The fans have a great impact on the Giants decisions  
ajr2456 : 2/12/2024 11:49 am : link
The examples are all there recently
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Route 9 : 2/13/2024 3:43 am : link
Lol. Dude. That 2015 team was garbage outside of OBJ and Eli Manning. Take a look at that roster and get back to me, how anyone could've made that crop of losers a winning team is beyond me.

There was a game where Eli threw 6 touchdowns and they still lost. Why? Because Drew Brees threw for 7.
RE: Delete this  
DefenseWins : 2/13/2024 5:58 am : link
In comment 16396027 JoeyBigBlue said:
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This is the definition of a loser mentality.


Wow... I saw the thread title before I clicked into it and was going to post the same thing about it being a loser mentality.

+1
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Route 9 : 2/13/2024 6:04 am : link
Wrong. Rivalries are fun in sports.

Be glad those teams are out. Even though the Giants were eliminated by the Eagles last year in the playoffs, it was hilarious to watch them and their scumbag fans have to watch it unfold in the SB.

They'd do the same.

What's with the weirdo hipster thing these days and not being joyful your team's rivals were bumped out of the playoffs? Can we please have SOME normalcy?
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Route 9 : 2/13/2024 6:05 am : link
Just like everyone on here being happy with Toney getting benched for the SB. Everyone has their thing.
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Lambuth_Special : 2/13/2024 9:17 am : link
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Lol. Dude. That 2015 team was garbage outside of OBJ and Eli Manning. Take a look at that roster and get back to me, how anyone could've made that crop of losers a winning team is beyond me.

There was a game where Eli threw 6 touchdowns and they still lost. Why? Because Drew Brees threw for 7.


They had a top 5 offense and a bottom 5 defense. That evens out to 8-8. They had a very good QB in the last year of his prime, the best WR in the league, and a functional Oline (best post-2013). That's all it takes 90 percent of the time for a great offense; the Giants just assume it's much more complicated because they can't acknowledge that they've failed to get all three of the above in the Jones era (QB most of all).

Bad end-of-game management cost them against the Cowboys and Patriots, it was widely acknowledge by nearly everyone at the time. There was a ton of other stuff, but what stood out to be was TC not going for it on 4th down in 2nd half on three separate occassions between the Eagles 35-40 yard line despite playing at home with a top-5 offense...during a season (and career) finale.

My opinion is that everything post 2012 has sucked and there's no alternate history where Eli/TC lift their 3rd Lombardi trophy together. Just because this current era sucks doesn't mean the Giants made a mistake moving on from any of Coughlin, Eli, or Reese. Reese declined first, followed by Coughlin, followed by Eli. It was over after Hurricane Sandy, and the Giants were just the last to realize it.
Eagles Hatred  
Jasper : 2/13/2024 2:01 pm : link
Having lived in the Philadelphia area, I've never understood the hatred directed against the Eagles on this board. In Philly, the hatred is universally directed against the Cowboys, very little against the Giants.

In fact, several Eagles fans that I've known have offered grudging admiration of Eli, Coughlin, Bavaro, and other NY Giants.

Jasper
RE: Eagles Hatred  
Sean : 2/13/2024 2:23 pm : link
In comment 16398061 Jasper said:
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Having lived in the Philadelphia area, I've never understood the hatred directed against the Eagles on this board. In Philly, the hatred is universally directed against the Cowboys, very little against the Giants.

In fact, several Eagles fans that I've known have offered grudging admiration of Eli, Coughlin, Bavaro, and other NY Giants.

Jasper

Huh?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Giants aren’t too loyal?  
giantstock : 2/13/2024 8:07 pm : link
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You're wrong on this one. You came on a thread that had nothing to do with your obsessive horse shit and bitched. And now you're insisting that firing 2 GMS and FOUR, count them....FOUR head coaches in UNDER TEN YEARS, as too loyal.

Just find another thread.



I’m not wrong. You don’t have to engage.

And what’s my horse shit? That the Giants have sucked for 13 years? That gloating about the Cowboys and Eagles not winning the Super Bowl after making the playoffs is stupid?

Just like you have opinions, other people have options. Why you get so mad about it is wild to me.



You're making points that aren't pertinent to this thread or what I said earlier. You came on a thread that merely showed relief that our rivals caved in January and started talking about too much loyalty and now you're spinning off into how much NYG have sucked. Everyone knows that and again, not pertinent at all to the OP or my counter point that Mara has fired everyone over and over again. It's not loyalty issues. It's bad drafts.

And every point you make is rooted in DJ. You can't let one thread go, even one that has nothing to do with Jones.

I know you're mad. I know you want better play. We all do. I empathize with every NYG fan. I will leave it at that. Common ground.


He does this all the time.
The funny part is DJM  
ajr2456 : 2/13/2024 8:23 pm : link
Brought up loyalty not me. But whatever you guys say.
RE: Eagles Hatred  
Route 9 : 2/15/2024 9:38 am : link
In comment 16398061 Jasper said:
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Having lived in the Philadelphia area, I've never understood the hatred directed against the Eagles on this board. In Philly, the hatred is universally directed against the Cowboys, very little against the Giants.

In fact, several Eagles fans that I've known have offered grudging admiration of Eli, Coughlin, Bavaro, and other NY Giants.

Jasper


I didn't think such a stupid post could ever exist on BBI
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/15/2024 9:41 am : link
Jasper’s post…

Wow. Just wow.
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