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| Ari Meirov @MySportsUpdate Multiple #49ers players said after the game that they were not aware of the new overtime rules. The #Chiefs, on the other hand, have been planning for this scenario, and DT Chris Jones said they were going to go for two had San Francisco scored a TD, per @bylindsayhjones |
Definitely seems like the San Fran staff dropped the ball on this one.
If you score a TD on the opening drive it is.
"For the playoffs only, both teams must have the opportunity to possess the ball. Gone are the days of winning the toss, scoring a touchdown and ending the game."
"For the playoffs only, both teams must have the opportunity to possess the ball. Gone are the days of winning the toss, scoring a touchdown and ending the game."
Yes, and only for playoff games.
Regular season a TD ends the game.
Why? What difference does it make if the players don’t know the rules as long as the coaches do? Christian McCaffrey isn’t calling plays or managing possessions or timeouts.
Shit, Hardman won the game in OT and he didn’t realize that play ended the game. He didn’t need to know that (although he should have).
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If true, completely inexcusable by Shanahan.
Why? What difference does it make if the players don’t know the rules as long as the coaches do? Christian McCaffrey isn’t calling plays or managing possessions or timeouts.
Shit, Hardman won the game in OT and he didn’t realize that play ended the game. He didn’t need to know that (although he should have).
Harman actually contradicts what Mahomes said after the game about drilling the rules all week.
I guess they message is only as good as the intended audience.
While I agree its best for the players to understand the rules, its most important for the coaching staff.
I'm not playing in the game so who cares? I just have to keep reminding myself that it's not 20 years ago and there is no sudden death anymore, kind of, but only in the regular season.
I think a ton of the reactions to these rules people hate, like losing in OT without touching the ball or losing because of a shootout in hockey is the result of heated fans just pissed off their team lost.
It's the reason why the Chiefs would probably have gone for two if both had matched touchdowns.
It's debatable, but certainly not a blunder, and I'm sure Shanahan knew what he was doing.
Shanahan explained that he was thinking several moves ahead after the winning coin toss, looking toward a potential third overtime possession when the game becomes sudden death.
“None of us have a ton of experience with it,” Shanahan said. “We went through all the analytics and talked to those guys. We decided it would be better getting the ball because if both teams matched and scored, we wanted to be the ones to have a chance to go win it.”
"For the playoffs only, both teams must have the opportunity to possess the ball. Gone are the days of winning the toss, scoring a touchdown and ending the game."
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If true, completely inexcusable by Shanahan.
Why? What difference does it make if the players don’t know the rules as long as the coaches do? Christian McCaffrey isn’t calling plays or managing possessions or timeouts.
Shit, Hardman won the game in OT and he didn’t realize that play ended the game. He didn’t need to know that (although he should have).
Not knowing the rules impacts your decision making when you are a coach or player. Put yourself in any crunch time situation in any sport - where does not knowing the rule help you? In contract, when does knowing all the rules help you?
Yeah I said that very thing. The coaches need to know. Shanahan clearly did know them.
I am asking why it is critical that the players be drilled on the rules?
It's the reason why the Chiefs would probably have gone for two if both had matched touchdowns.
It's debatable, but certainly not a blunder, and I'm sure Shanahan knew what he was doing.
This is correct. Mitigated only the fact that the second team has the advantage of knowing what they need to do on their opening drive.
Again, what did the 49ers do to make anyone think this?
Or ask their respective coaches
Shanahan explained that he was thinking several moves ahead after the winning coin toss, looking toward a potential third overtime possession when the game becomes sudden death.
“None of us have a ton of experience with it,” Shanahan said. “We went through all the analytics and talked to those guys. We decided it would be better getting the ball because if both teams matched and scored, we wanted to be the ones to have a chance to go win it.”
Exactly, more BS on the Internet.
And not giving the ball to Mahomes at crunch time seems always a good move :)
I gave it some thought but the chiefs not hurrying up confirmed it for me
Maybe, lol
The OT rules for a playoff game is a brand new game, you play until there's a winner.
OT rules in regular season is simply an extra one period (10 minutes) that ends there, with a tie obviously in order.
Also was not suggesting players not knowing the rules was a strategy, and a best practice. The question I asked was "why it was critical that the players knew the OT rules?" Time was not a factor so no decisions about getting out of bounds or running the clock matter in playoff OT.
Shanahan said at his presser he was aware of the rules, spoke to their analytics team on how to handle OT, and had made the decision to take the ball first if they had the choice in OT.
This is blown out of proportion
The advantage was getting to rest your D some more
They were gassed with that last drive by KC
If it is fair that both teams get a possession in the playoffs, it should be fair that both teams get a possession in a regular season OT game.
As Romo commented, some of the thinking was that the 49er defense had been on the field for a while to end the game, so putting them right back on the field to start OT would be a disadvantage. As commented above, taking the ball first gives them the advantage should they get to the sudden death portion.
The main advantage of going second is it being 4 down territory if the first team scores and you absolutely have to score. That's a huge advantage under the playoff rules.
Agreed. Romo and Nantz were embarrassing, particularly Romo. Remember that play with Kittle when he got the first down along the sideline but Nantz was quick to say he didn't and then Romo said he did?
NOPE.. cause I was screaming
" why arent they taking a timeout !!! "
Yeah when the Chiefs got stopped short on that 3rd down (before the Mahomes run on 4th) they're both just like OHHHHHHHH like a bunch of teenagers lol
Also was not suggesting players not knowing the rules was a strategy, and a best practice. The question I asked was "why it was critical that the players knew the OT rules?" Time was not a factor so no decisions about getting out of bounds or running the clock matter in playoff OT.
I think you are misinterpreting my post. I think it’s strange to think players not knowing the rules can’t have an impact on the game, especially in a critical situation like this one (if this rumor is true). Coach says this, I do this, probably works most of the time but even having a shred of uncertainty about what’s going on can effect your play.
I mentioned in the game thread, the players looked unprepared for that final snap before the pass to Hardman. I have no idea if it was them not knowing the rules, thinking they were going to take the time down to start the 2nd quarter, or something else but San Fran looked lost.
It’s no worse than forgetting Christian McCaffrey is on his team for the entire 3rd quarter.
Their defense had just been on the field.
"For the playoffs only, both teams must have the opportunity to possess the ball. Gone are the days of winning the toss, scoring a touchdown and ending the game."
The change was that a TD by the team first possessing the ball no longer ended the game.
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did a terrible job capturing the huge moments in this game. Romo stinks and should be fired IMO.
Agreed. Romo and Nantz were embarrassing, particularly Romo. Remember that play with Kittle when he got the first down along the sideline but Nantz was quick to say he didn't and then Romo said he did?
Yup, Romo was explaining the OT rule and took all the excitement out of the winning play. He's very intelligent but sometimes its like someone talking about the reproductive system during sex.
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Go back and read what I wrote. I said the coaches need to know the rules. I am not sure why you think I was suggesting the coaches didn't need to know the rules.
Also was not suggesting players not knowing the rules was a strategy, and a best practice. The question I asked was "why it was critical that the players knew the OT rules?" Time was not a factor so no decisions about getting out of bounds or running the clock matter in playoff OT.
I think you are misinterpreting my post. I think it’s strange to think players not knowing the rules can’t have an impact on the game, especially in a critical situation like this one (if this rumor is true). Coach says this, I do this, probably works most of the time but even having a shred of uncertainty about what’s going on can effect your play.
I mentioned in the game thread, the players looked unprepared for that final snap before the pass to Hardman. I have no idea if it was them not knowing the rules, thinking they were going to take the time down to start the 2nd quarter, or something else but San Fran looked lost.
Hardman was also not sure of the rules. He admitted that after catching the winning TD he wasn't aware the game was over.
Players should obviously know the rules, no question. I was reacting to the idea it was negligent to not have drilled them on the OT rules since they don't decide strategy, and time (get out of bounds / stay in bounds) which the players do manage on the field is not relevant to that situation.