on a fan forum. It's pouring here and I'm bored...
Everyone is crucifying Shanahan. Play calling, OT coin toss decision, etc. Then it was the OL. CMC fumble and ST punt muff followed. Next was Wilks' shitty defense's turn.
Only a few brave souls dared to say that Purdy was outmatched.
IMO, if they pay this kid a ton next year, they'll regret it.
He didn't lose the game, but he left big plays on the field I believe.
They basically kept Mahomes in check the entire game and had chances to build a lead, but never could do it.
You are too funny. There is no bizarre comment you will not double down on.
I feel his arm is just average, but accuracy is quite good.
Book still to be written on him.
The muffed punt was a monster, it completely got KC re-engaged in the war for the remainder of the game.
The Lions made the same mistake against SF in the championship game.
Take the Mahomes throw before the Chiefs fumbled it away the next play. That was not the most advantageous coverage to throw into but Mahomes has the arm and talent to make that throw and it was a huge play that should have led to points. I don't see Purdy making those types of plays.
I know as Giants fans this it's hard to remember this, but players actually sometimes do get better with more experience.
They lost the Super Bowl in overtime to a top 5 all time coach and a top 5 all time QB. He and they had a fantastic season.
No. He abandoned the run too soon which is the one thing he couldn't do. You have to keep Mahomes off the field and not make it Purdy vs. Spags.
But the OT decision was not a mistake. It just didn't result in them winning. Honestly, kicking off to start OT, with a gassed defense, was also not going to result in them winning.
Mahomes and Reid won this game. Shanahan didn't lose it.
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SF probably wins
The Lions made the same mistake against SF in the championship game.
I doubt he stops the special teams punt muff which was the turning point in the game for a KC offense which had been doing nothing.
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SF probably wins
The Lions made the same mistake against SF in the championship game.
Yup
Spags has beaten better QB's before (Brady, Farve) in pressure situations if he has great pass rushers. In critical situations, Spags got pressure on Purdy and forced incompletions. That was the key, IMO.
Neither QB played well frankly (I'm putting Mahomes on the "expectation" scale - as for him, this was a mediocre game, but when push came to shove, Mahomes willed that team in the 4th quarter/OT where it mattered).
Take the Mahomes throw before the Chiefs fumbled it away the next play. That was not the most advantageous coverage to throw into but Mahomes has the arm and talent to make that throw and it was a huge play that should have led to points. I don't see Purdy making those types of plays.
But the 49ers don't have any QB hell. Purdy is playing on a deal they can live with, even drafting another QB or signing a veteran. They have all the flexibility you could ask for.
I don’t think the coin toss decision is as cut and dry a bad call as some say. His defense was gassed, and if it went to sudden death they get the ball first
Simple difference is KC finished their drive, SF couldn’t when it counted
Shanahan getting pass happy despite having CMC and that OL yet again was a much bigger blunder
The muffed punt was a monster, it completely got KC re-engaged in the war for the remainder of the game.
Turning point of the game
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Mike - so you are saying you agree with the way Shanahan coached that game?
No. He abandoned the run too soon which is the one thing he couldn't do. You have to keep Mahomes off the field and not make it Purdy vs. Spags.
But the OT decision was not a mistake. It just didn't result in them winning. Honestly, kicking off to start OT, with a gassed defense, was also not going to result in them winning.
Mahomes and Reid won this game. Shanahan didn't lose it.
This. I also don’t ink abandoning the run too soon was the completely wrong decision. It’s not like they were up two touchdowns. The thought process was probably that a 10 point lead isn’t enough against KC and they needed to try to move it through the air and extend the lead. It blew up in their face, but I think the logic was right.
lol
100%
Hey Niners, wanna see what a REAL bad offensive line looks line?
Shanny Jr. should've taken a page out of the Giants' playbook in SB 25 when Erhardt and Parcells controlled the clock by running the ball and controlling the LoS against the Bills' smallish defensive front. Like Marv Levy, he left running plays off the field.
Their clock is ticking on "flexbility". They have a wealth of weapons on offense and defense because they aren't paying a QB. We'll see how much they value Purdy in 2 years when they have to pay him. Until then, their clock is ticking. Not QB hell, but by no means can they feel they have their long-term answer either as a long-term answer implies you are ok paying that person a premium salary. And if you pay Purdy even $40M a year (below market) you won't have money for all the weapons that today he benefits from.
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But the 49ers don't have any QB hell. Purdy is playing on a deal they can live with, even drafting another QB or signing a veteran. They have all the flexibility you could ask for.
Their clock is ticking on "flexbility". They have a wealth of weapons on offense and defense because they aren't paying a QB. We'll see how much they value Purdy in 2 years when they have to pay him. Until then, their clock is ticking. Not QB hell, but by no means can they feel they have their long-term answer either as a long-term answer implies you are ok paying that person a premium salary. And if you pay Purdy even $40M a year (below market) you won't have money for all the weapons that today he benefits from.
I agree.
CMC, Kittle, Debo won't be nearly as effective two years from now.
The style in which they play the game takes a toll psychically.
That isn't true at all.
They've been to 7 NFC championship games since 2011 and have no rings to show for it. Brutal.
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But the 49ers don't have any QB hell. Purdy is playing on a deal they can live with, even drafting another QB or signing a veteran. They have all the flexibility you could ask for.
Their clock is ticking on "flexbility". They have a wealth of weapons on offense and defense because they aren't paying a QB. We'll see how much they value Purdy in 2 years when they have to pay him. Until then, their clock is ticking. Not QB hell, but by no means can they feel they have their long-term answer either as a long-term answer implies you are ok paying that person a premium salary. And if you pay Purdy even $40M a year (below market) you won't have money for all the weapons that today he benefits from.
They have a passable QB being paid less than $1M/year. They can compete with him next year while using that cap space to bolster the rest of the lineup. They can also draft a developmental QB in the mid rounds and let him sit and grow for a year or two. I wish the Giants had their QB situation.
It just seemed to me that, in that moment, you run until they stop it.
And could have been called back due to penalty.
So much for the KC/Kelce/Mahomes conspiracy theorists...
Purdy had the best quarterback rating in the league.
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They dont really have a glaring hole...
One thing to keep in mind is his timing, which is top notch. How often did you see a 49er receiver make a cut and the ball arrived instantly? I was counting the times Purdy delivered it. His release is also quick. (Jones is deficient in both areas, a major reason he isn’t a starting caliber QB.)
I think they will sign Purdy long term and won’t regret it.
It just seemed to me that, in that moment, you run until they stop it.
That 3rd and 4 at the 2 minute warning was their chance. But the Niners had other chances too. There were multiple times where I thought SF was going to take control and somehow the Chiefs got the stop.
Good QB, smart, relies on timing and accuracy. Above average athlete, but not top shelf. Bit of a noodle arm. They can win with him and compete for championships IMO. He’s not a top shelf talent but he’s GOOD ENOUGH, something our guy isn’t. I think he left a few plays on the field, but frankly Mahomes did too. Niners lost due to mistakes - McCaffrey fumble, and punt return turnover. They were the better team for most of the contest.