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Strongest NFL arm you have seen

NJBlueTuna : 2/12/2024 6:18 pm
Just pure throwing strength not “arm talent”/aesthetics so guys like
Jeff George are out for me as he threw a beautiful ball and did have a cannon as well.

Strongest 2 for me were Elway and Vick. Even more amazing that they were not tall QBs. Vick was just such a freak. JaMarcus Russell was up there and so was Dan McGuire, Mark’s younger brother who was also 6’6” and could throw the ball 80 yards. Just wasn’t a good QB for the Seahawks.

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You guys are forgetting the best arm of the 2004 class  
JT039 : 2/12/2024 9:06 pm : link
Kyle Boller.
Bert Jones  
AROCK1000 : 2/12/2024 9:08 pm : link
Just never got the recognition he deserved
His team around him stunk....he was known more for his Lite Beer commercials than his abilities as a QB
I totally misread the intent  
cuty suzuki : 2/12/2024 9:16 pm : link
of this thread and started thinking of 350 pound linemen. I'm a dumbass!
Elway  
Torn Tendon : 2/12/2024 9:59 pm : link
Moon
Marino
Cunningham
Nagle - wasn't his shtick, that he could throw the ball 70+ yards on his knees?

Jeff George - I always felt a big issue was he'd get pissed due to a drop or wrong route. Then he'd lose all touch and every pass was flung with all he had, making matters worse.
How About Brett Favre?  
Aloha Alan : 2/12/2024 10:19 pm : link
I think he has the second longest throw behind Randall Cunningham.

Supposedly this kid on Tennessee (Joe Milton) can throw it a long ways.
Jones,..........Bert Jones, Ravens QB ca 1970's  
ConsistentGiantFan : 2/12/2024 10:40 pm : link
He could throw ropes.
Vick has to be up there.  
Amc825 : 2/13/2024 12:29 am : link
Effortless release.

88 yard TD - ( New Window )
RE: Jones,..........Bert Jones, Ravens QB ca 1970's  
Manhattan : 2/13/2024 12:41 am : link
In comment 16397430 ConsistentGiantFan said:
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He could throw ropes.


Colts. Were no Ravens then. AFC East Baltimore Colts.
RE: RE: RE: I don't think any of those guys could throw it like the younger QBs  
allstarjim : 2/13/2024 12:50 am : link
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Brady's throw in SB 42 to Moss on the second to last play was way more arm talent than Elway has ever shown.. and Guys like Allen have a much better arm than Brady.. so I really doubt that Elway and Marino had better arm talent.. may be if you adjust it for respective time period..


Brady? More arm talent than Elway?

You are disqualified from ever talking football again



Show me one throw better by Elway than Brady to Moss 2nd last play of SB.. otherwise don't bother disqualifying people..


If posts were QBs, yours would be Johnny Manziel.
Elway had a pass in college  
allstarjim : 2/13/2024 12:51 am : link
He threw it from his own 7, his receiver caught it at the opposing team's 4 yard line.
of note  
allstarjim : 2/13/2024 1:01 am : link
the NFL combine has tested and measured QB velocity since 2008, so there are a lot of guys before that already mentioned who we don't have data for who pre-date 2008, and there are other guys that didn't throw at the combine since, such as Matt Stafford, another guy with a big arm.

But Josh Allen does hold the combine record throwing 62 mph.
Elway had a legendary arm  
JohnF : 2/13/2024 1:11 am : link
His WR's have stories of how they would have a "cross" mark on their bodies from the tip of the ball when he threw it at them.

Strongest arm I ever saw at Albany camp was Kerry Collins. You could hear the sound of the ball hitting a WR clearly from 30-40 yards away! You didn't hear that from Eli, Warner or any of the other QB's there.
RE: .  
Matt M. : 2/13/2024 3:00 am : link
In comment 16397221 Go Terps said:
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I saw Jeff George in person for the Redskins - it didn't seem human.

I agree with those saying Marino, Elway, and George. I'd include Rodgers, Allen, and Mahomes of the current guys.

I'll also mention Warren Moon, who was as clean a thrower as you could want, so I have an excuse to post this GIF. Great thrower.

Not sure I'd rank Moon that high for hard throwing. But, overall, I think he is a grossly underrated QB, especially when talking about all time rankings.
Elway is who immediately cane to mind.  
Matt M. : 2/13/2024 3:08 am : link
Nobody, that I saw, threw it harder. He also had a legendary arm in baseball, drafted by the Yankees. He threw a seed from the warning track to home plate in his brief minor league career.
RE: For those laughing..  
bluewave : 2/13/2024 8:04 am : link
In comment 16397275 chuckydee9 said:
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thats a 67+ yard throw in game hitting the WR in stride. and not a heave like a hail mary.. Brady Throw - ( New Window )


That and the throw to Moss in the SB against us. The ball went 70 yards. Not sure Brady was the strongest but damn his arm was definitely underrated!
RE: Jeff George should have been a superstar  
Costy16 : 2/13/2024 8:31 am : link
In comment 16397231 Greg from LI said:
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But he was a moron. The archetypal “million dollar arm, ten cent head” guy. He could make every throw on the field - both high velocity and touch passes.

I still think Elway had a bit stronger arm, but he didn’t have the same touch George had.

Kerry Collins had a bazooka of an arm


I was going to say Kerry Collins. The fleaflicker vs IND always stands out. Look how far this ball travels in the air and he hits Toomer right in stride. He throws it from about the 5 yard line.
Flea Flicker - ( New Window )
Pure power  
Tuckrule : 2/13/2024 8:43 am : link
Vick and nobody threw an easier deep ball than that guy in his prime. Flick of the wrist the ball went 65 yards with a tight spiral
Brady to Moss, the end of SB 42,  
MOOPS : 2/13/2024 9:14 am : link
68 yards in the air and right on Moss in stride.
Brady might not have topped the velocity list but jeez that was some throw. Just tipped away, man that was way too close.
No one is suggesting Brady had a weak arm  
Greg from LI : 2/13/2024 9:40 am : link
Just that he didn't have the velocity of an Elway or Marino
Bobby Douglas  
floridafan : 2/13/2024 9:47 am : link
Could throw a ball through a wall, just not the one he was aiming for.
Douglas highlights - ( New Window )
RE: Brady to Moss, the end of SB 42,  
section125 : 2/13/2024 9:54 am : link
In comment 16397627 MOOPS said:
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68 yards in the air and right on Moss in stride.
Brady might not have topped the velocity list but jeez that was some throw. Just tipped away, man that was way too close.


FWIW, wasn't Tyrod Taylor's throw to Slayton 62 yards in the air?
RE: RE: Jeff George should have been a superstar  
LS : 2/13/2024 10:06 am : link
In comment 16397547 Costy16 said:
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But he was a moron. The archetypal “million dollar arm, ten cent head” guy. He could make every throw on the field - both high velocity and touch passes.

I still think Elway had a bit stronger arm, but he didn’t have the same touch George had.

Kerry Collins had a bazooka of an arm



I was going to say Kerry Collins. The fleaflicker vs IND always stands out. Look how far this ball travels in the air and he hits Toomer right in stride. He throws it from about the 5 yard line. Flea Flicker - ( New Window )


56 yards?
MADDEN talked about the  
Dave on the UWS : 2/13/2024 10:42 am : link
Elway cross in SB 21. Funny segment.
Roman Gabriel for the LA Rams in the early 1960s  
David in Belmont : 2/13/2024 10:43 am : link
I think he once threw an interception that traveled 75-80 yards in the air.
RE: No one is suggesting Brady had a weak arm  
NINEster : 2/13/2024 10:44 am : link
In comment 16397677 Greg from LI said:
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Just that he didn't have the velocity of an Elway or Marino


I'm hearing that QBs can have any mix of arm strength and velocity. Velocity can be had without a very strong arm, and vice versa.

Just looked up Deshaun Watson with a very low clocked combine velocity of 45 mph, and yet I think people would say he has good arm strength for deep balls.

Then you have guys without notably strong arms that had plenty of velocity to be hall of famers - Brady, Montana, Brees, P. Manning, Young, Rivers, etc.

I would say velocity is more important for being a top QB, and arm strength is a luxury.
Couldn't Vick throw it from endzone to endzone?  
Anakim : 2/13/2024 10:49 am : link
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Of course Danny Kanell  
ChrisRick : 2/13/2024 10:59 am : link
flick of the wrist baby

As I remember  
Beer Man : 2/13/2024 11:21 am : link
Bert Jones had a cannon
Kent Graham?  
Grey Pilgrim : 2/13/2024 12:19 pm : link
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Roman Gabriel for the LA Rams in the early 1960s  
David in Belmont : 2/13/2024 12:39 pm : link
I think he once threw an interception that traveled 75-80 yards in the air.
RE: As I remember  
Tony in Tampa : 2/13/2024 1:08 pm : link
In comment 16397829 Beer Man said:
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Bert Jones had a cannon

Remember seeing him as a kid. I was just learning the game and didn't really understand how much a weapon having a strong arm was. I just could tell the pass looked different coming out of his hand
RE: Before his shoulder injury, Bert Jones.  
Thegratefulhead : 2/13/2024 1:19 pm : link
In comment 16397290 Section331 said:
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The guy had a cannon. Elway and Mahomes might have been better, maybe, but if so, not by a lot.
Bert Jones, before injury, had the strongest arm the NFL has ever seen. Pastorini was nuts too, but a touch below OG Bert.
Maybe I missed, but surprised not to see  
Section331 : 2/13/2024 1:20 pm : link
Brett Favre mentioned. He could sling it a bit.
Pastorini story from my GF  
Thegratefulhead : 2/13/2024 1:22 pm : link
ANd just found it online too, doesn't mean it was real but I heard this as a kid

Story about Dan Pastorini's arm strength
He was at some kind of conference with several HoF QBs and spotted them on a hotel balcony on the fourth floor. They challenged him to throw a ball up to them from the ground. His words:

"The ball sailed perfectly over their heads, above the balcony, above the next floor and hit a 10th-story balcony.

Jenkins turned to Bobby Layne and said, “Did you see that? Can you believe the arm strength in that kid? Can you believe he threw a football up 10-stories?”

Unitas chimed in, “Yeah, but his receiver was on the fifth floor.”

RE: Pastorini story from my GF  
Thegratefulhead : 2/13/2024 1:23 pm : link
In comment 16398006 Thegratefulhead said:
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ANd just found it online too, doesn't mean it was real but I heard this as a kid

Story about Dan Pastorini's arm strength
He was at some kind of conference with several HoF QBs and spotted them on a hotel balcony on the fourth floor. They challenged him to throw a ball up to them from the ground. His words:

"The ball sailed perfectly over their heads, above the balcony, above the next floor and hit a 10th-story balcony.

Jenkins turned to Bobby Layne and said, “Did you see that? Can you believe the arm strength in that kid? Can you believe he threw a football up 10-stories?”

Unitas chimed in, “Yeah, but his receiver was on the fifth floor.”
GF is Grandfather....err
Doug Williams  
jpkmets : 2/13/2024 7:02 pm : link
For me. Took him years to dial it back to a speed that helped his receivers rather than hurt them in Tampa.
Namath, Marino, Bert Jones  
jeff57 : 2/13/2024 7:22 pm : link
Three that come to mind.
Not sure he was mentioned but  
SomeFan : 2/13/2024 8:32 pm : link
Jeff George could basically throw as good as anyone. Maybe other guys had as good an arm but not sure if anyone could have been much better.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I don't think any of those guys could throw it like the younger QBs  
chuckydee9 : 2/13/2024 10:55 pm : link
In comment 16397485 allstarjim said:
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Brady's throw in SB 42 to Moss on the second to last play was way more arm talent than Elway has ever shown.. and Guys like Allen have a much better arm than Brady.. so I really doubt that Elway and Marino had better arm talent.. may be if you adjust it for respective time period..


Brady? More arm talent than Elway?

You are disqualified from ever talking football again



Show me one throw better by Elway than Brady to Moss 2nd last play of SB.. otherwise don't bother disqualifying people..



If posts were QBs, yours would be Johnny Manziel.


I'm waiting to see if you can actually show me a better throw by Elway that shows more arm talent than Brady.. and if you go back to my original post you'll see I'm not even claiming Brady as great Arm talent.. just saying that current guys are far superior..
maybe Favre  
TJ : 2/14/2024 8:29 am : link
I remember he could roll right, throw across his body to the left side of the field and put an x in his receiver's chest. It seemed to me he took chances that other QBs could not because of that arm strength.
Elway for me  
xtian : 2/17/2024 3:07 pm : link
I moved to Colorado in 83 and saw Elway throw every week which is why I was terrified he would single-handedly beat the NYG in the 86 Superbowl, especially since S Terry Kinard was injured and replaced by the slower S Herb Welch.
Todd Marinovich  
Capisce : 2/19/2024 6:26 pm : link
Smoking...
RE: How About Brett Favre?  
Anakim : 2/20/2024 8:16 am : link
In comment 16397404 Aloha Alan said:
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I think he has the second longest throw behind Randall Cunningham.

Supposedly this kid on Tennessee (Joe Milton) can throw it a long ways.


Milton for sure can. He has a true rocket of a right arm.

If I'm not mistaken, didn't Kordell Stewart and like Drew Bledsoe throw it farther than Favre in that epic Pro Bowl competition?
I remember the Giants training at Monmouth U. and there's  
gtt350 : 2/21/2024 12:18 pm : link
this old bald guy tossing 50 yard spirals like it was playing
15 yard catch.I said "who the hell is that? "
I was told Y.A. Title
Tittle  
gtt350 : 2/21/2024 12:19 pm : link
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Elway  
mort christenson : 2/21/2024 2:43 pm : link
And not sure where the poster got the idea he was not big. He was a large man. 6 foot 4 and listed at 215 to 220 but probably even a little bigger. And this was in the 1980s.
RE: I remember the Giants training at Monmouth U. and there's  
AROCK1000 : 2/21/2024 8:18 pm : link
In comment 16404302 gtt350 said:
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this old bald guy tossing 50 yard spirals like it was playing
15 yard catch.I said "who the hell is that? "
I was told Y.A. Title

cue the photo with the blood streaming down the sides of his head
RE: Elway  
PatersonPlank : 2/21/2024 9:20 pm : link
In comment 16404484 mort christenson said:
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And not sure where the poster got the idea he was not big. He was a large man. 6 foot 4 and listed at 215 to 220 but probably even a little bigger. And this was in the 1980s.


Elway was that generations Allen (or visa versa)
Didn't Kyle Boller throw it THROUGH  
NormanAllen_95 : 2/21/2024 9:31 pm : link
the uprights on his knee during his pro day? That's 60 yards all arm and torso. I remember seeing it when it happened and couldnt believe it.

Horrendous player though.
RE: RE: Elway  
bw in dc : 2/21/2024 9:37 pm : link
In comment 16404904 PatersonPlank said:
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And not sure where the poster got the idea he was not big. He was a large man. 6 foot 4 and listed at 215 to 220 but probably even a little bigger. And this was in the 1980s.



Elway was that generations Allen (or visa versa)


I attended Phillipsburg High School in northwest Jersey. We're a football and wrestling powerhouse. Before my time there, we had a player named Jim Clymer who went to Stanford and played with Elway in the '80s. I have been out with Jim a few times and spoke to him about playing with Elway.

Jim told me when he first practiced with Elway he was overwhelmed by the ball velocity. He couldn't react quickly enough to catch the ball with just his hands. So, he caught nearly everything with his body. When practice ended, he took off his shirt and noticed a red mark on his chest that was very painful. He looked in the mirror and could see the cross at the end of the ball basically tattooed into his skin.

The "Elway Cross". It was a real thing...
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