Should the Giants re-sign Matt Peart?

who has always been recognized as a project, a second look in a new environment (new OL coach). I say Yes to a reasonable 1-year contract. And I know the Eagles were in full auto-destruct mode in their last month of games, but Reddick is a quality player and blocking him successfully is meaningful whatever the context.

This is one of the interesting wild cards in the next training camp.

Would rather restock OL with other names. He's been a failed experiment here and unreliable physically.

an unmotivated opponent, then it’s completely hopeless.

Is this a mirage? Or a sign of hidden potential? I’m thinking the new OL coach will watch all his tape, talk to many others in the building and then maybe, a big maybe, MP will get a token offer. Let’s see if Bobby Johnson invites him down to Washington to play alongside Flowers.

but they need to invest in a prospect who can push Neal at RT.

He always had the athleticism and size....Different players gel at different times. I was impressed with his play against Reddick in real time. I say sign him to a reasonable deal.

In comment 16397888 JonC said:

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but they need to invest in a prospect who can push Neal at RT.

This

In comment 16397888 JonC said:

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but they need to invest in a prospect who can push Neal at RT.

One year at vet minimum. If he gets beat out in camp, it costs nothing against the cap. Right now we have Miles and Cajuste as backups, and I’d take Peart over either of them.

I think it's safe to say one of them will be a Giant but definitely not at #6, I hope.

as JonC said, sign him to a one year deal, bring him to camp so the new OL coach can work with him. If there's something there, great, otherwise discard at the end of camp.

but I’d exhaust all other possibilities first. We need to do better.

Evan Neal and Daniel Jones out the door?! Sarcasm aside, I'm torn; first reaction, move on as he's not shown any improvement or consistent at least average ability. He has good plays and more often, bad plays. BUT the dearth of OL talent in the league tells me the devil you know is better than the one you don't. Unlike others on this website, I still trust Daboll, Schoen and team to make this call as they work with the player daily. He's assistant to the assistant regional left tackle in my book.

I've always thought that his run blocking was decent and pass blocking was inconsistent at best.

That said, with all the turnover at IOL last year the coaches never tried him there. I'm not saying they're wrong, I'm just curious as to why.

His tape in the last game he played in is good. Most of his tape is not.
His size and length is elite. I would think a new OL coach would want to work with him.

In comment 16397888 JonC said:

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but they need to invest in a prospect who can push Neal at RT.

I'd prefer to let him go. He's like a mini version of Jones in that he's had plenty of time to prove himself and has not done so. But I would let the new OL coach decide whether to resign him, as long as it's for a low-cost deal.

complicates it a bit, but theres going to be a ton of veteran swing tackles out there in FA to chance on.

I don't see Peart as part of any future. Holding him on a cheap one year contract as temporary insurance is a whole another argument.

whether Reddick was giving full effort or not, Peart's technique is solid. He moves his feet, he stays on balance. He is STILL catching, not punching, but he is really a finess tackle, not a mauler. Previous OL coaches have had an issue with someone this big NOT being a physical player. That's not who Peart is. Coach him to his strengths, keep refining his technique, so he can play when needed (like in this game), and the offense can function.
I wouldn't be so quick to dump him.

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One good game when they playing out the string is not something I would bank on.

The Giants need depth and familiarity.
The more bodies you bring to camp the better and you hope the last game was the breakthrough for him .

In comment 16397914 AcidTest said:

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In comment 16397888 JonC said: Quote: but they need to invest in a prospect who can push Neal at RT. I'd prefer to let him go. He's like a mini version of Jones in that he's had plenty of time to prove himself and has not done so. But I would let the new OL coach decide whether to resign him, as long as it's for a low-cost deal.

He was a 3rd round tackle which is obviously a developmently project in this league.
He has had too many injuries and line coaches to say he can't play in this league. If the money is right there is very little risk.
Jones and Peart are not even remotely the same trajectory

Is the new Oshane Ximenes. Get re-signed to a 1 year deal, get buried on the depth chart and get released halfway through the season. No thanks. 4 years was enough of a sample size to know he sucks.

And make the decision.

Agree on signing him to a 1yr reasonably priced deal.
As has been mentioned, let’s see what good coaching can do for him and the other more recent picks.
We still must add talent to the line via free agency and the draft.

but there are so few even average quality backup tackles in the league, it’s worth considering IMO

But the dearth of quality tackles also means someone else may pay him more than we should do so prudently

With apparent physical ability to be a prototypical LT, college staff made him a RT. He would not be the first NFL player who needed to play on the "wrong" side (see Jumbo Elliot who projected at RT but played well at LT after underwhelming at RT).

Maybe his lack of focus makes the concept of "swing" tackle a non-starter. Maybe he can only be effective if prepared and repped for a specific side in the coming week.

Maybe the coach we just fired was the worst o-line coach on the face of the earth. There is plenty of evidence supporting, and not much refuting this thesis over Daboll's tenure. Only advance was Thomas, and maybe his talent and will to succeed just over-whelmed the lack of instructional talent.

Personally, it would come down to facts and circumstance of projected contract. You are taking on risk. Let someone else overpay. Let someone else get stuck with dead cap hit.

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His end of season opportunities (more than 1 game), I would say NO, but it only costs a vet minimum contract IF he makes the team.

I would not cut any other returning veterans or offer him more than the minimum without giving him a training camp look.

By the way, there is no reason for the Giants to conduct another “soft” training camp. Let all the o-linemen battle for positions.

Peart has had his chances and failed, several times over. A uninterested Philly team in the last week of season isn’t a sign that Peart is putting it altogether.

Move on and fix the line with new blood as opposed to giving bad picks from a bad former GM more time.

That guy knows his shit.

I don’t really care if they bring him back or if they don’t. Whatever they decide…I’m good.

Just so Evan Neal doesn’t seem as bad as he is

In comment 16397953 larryflower37 said:

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In comment 16397914 AcidTest said: Quote: I'd prefer to let him go. He's like a mini version of Jones in that he's had plenty of time to prove himself and has not done so. But I would let the new OL coach decide whether to resign him, as long as it's for a low-cost deal. ///// He was a 3rd round tackle which is obviously a developmently project in this league. He has had too many injuries and line coaches to say he can't play in this league. If the money is right there is very little risk. Jones and Peart are not even remotely the same trajectory

quite right and thank you 37 for pointing out facts. the sickness around here re brining DJ into every conceivable thread is…a sickness

In comment 16397921 Dave on the UWS said:

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whether Reddick was giving full effort or not, Peart's technique is solid. He moves his feet, he stays on balance. He is STILL catching, not punching, but he is really a finess tackle, not a mauler. Previous OL coaches have had an issue with someone this big NOT being a physical player. That's not who Peart is. Coach him to his strengths, keep refining his technique, so he can play when needed (like in this game), and the offense can function. I wouldn't be so quick to dump him.

broad strokes agree with this Dave, including your conclusion. Physique and style, he reminds me of the other UConn guy Beatty, with similar limitations

In comment 16397888 JonC said:

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but they need to invest in a prospect who can push Neal at RT.

+1

which I assume will come, wouldn’t you think he would want a clean slate?

A number of our coaches have kept him off the field when we desperately needed a T and his toughness was publicly questioning.

We still have people using single-game sample sizes to draw conclusions?

No. And I can’t believe we drafted him in the 3rd round!

If you can't start on this OL then you're basically rock bottom. We could do better just picking up a FA off the scrap pile.

But I’m not sure he would want to stay here. The man was treated pretty poorly overall. The last coaches questioned his manhood publicly. He has a low end chance to start imo just because Neal was the 7th pick. I think he will get better money and opportunities on the open market

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but they need to invest in a prospect who can push Neal at RT.

Agreed except for the part about Neal being a RT. He can't do it. Stick him at Guard.

How responsible was Peart for thoses wins?

I'm guessing that we could have won 6 games without Peart on the team.

I don't want to rebuild using dead wood. You say he's improved. It is extremely hard to evaluate a lineman until he plays in the actual season games. That is too long to wait IMO.

Sayonara Peart.