extremely good in the Super Bowl and all year in fact. I don’t care who the DC is, Mahomes wanted that TD and he wasn’t going to be denied. Also Greenlaws injury was huge and how is that Wilks fault?
It's not a given the next guy (coach, coordinator QB) will be better. Much greater chance he's not. That's how declines start.
Well Wilks wasn't a groomed DC like the rest.
Saleh was hired from the Jags and stayed for 4 seasons. Demeco Ryans was hired at the same time as quality control coach then promoted to LB coach before taking over as coordinator when Saleh left.
It appears Shanahan didn't feel the right successor was present in house, and I guess felt Wilks could be the right DC. But he was hired under the premise to continue running the same style defense with his tweaks.
Eye test wise, it wasn't a great year. An awesome 2-3 quarters in the Super Bowl, but even most non Niner fans could see the difference.
During that 3 game losing streak, it became very hard to fathom this team being in the Super Bowl, and it wasn't because of Purdy.
because of the good overall Super Bowl performance, and the idea of continuity, there was a chance maybe year 2 could be better and I probably was ok with it.
But with all due respect to KC, their defense shouldn't be better.
was the issue in the SB but remember, the 49ers were gashed by the Packers and the Lions. If the Lions do not royally screw up the second half the 49ers wouldn't even be in the SB. Their D was less than stellar later in the season.
"During an end-of-season press conference Tuesday, Shanahan said he expected all of his coaching staff to return for 2024. He said Wednesday that he didn't announce Wilks' departure then because he was unsure if they'd part ways.
Shanahan added that it was a tough decision but said Wilks' system didn't align with what the 49ers had previously used.
Check out Bosa's comments. He ostensibly said the D wasn't as prepared as they could have been.
Only gave up 19 points in regular time. And 7 of those were a gift from a Niners special teams screw up if I recall the game correctly.
But whatever.
I'm hearing Shanahan had a say in the defensive game plan, and plus two weeks prep likely evened out coaching issues for either side. It really felt like the offensive and defensive coaching from both sides were excellent in this game given the time available.
It's very fair to say the defense underperformed all season. Offensive DVOA was higher than defensive DVOA for the first time in decades.
extremely good in the Super Bowl and all year in fact. I don’t care who the DC is, Mahomes wanted that TD and he wasn’t going to be denied. Also Greenlaws injury was huge and how is that Wilks fault?
They got taken apart like a dollar watch in the 3rd and 4th quarters and OT. Kelce was apparently a surprise to them and they let Mahomes run for 40 yards in OT. It was not a great performance.
Bigger issue was how the D performed vs GB and DET
extremely good in the Super Bowl and all year in fact. I don’t care who the DC is, Mahomes wanted that TD and he wasn’t going to be denied. Also Greenlaws injury was huge and how is that Wilks fault?
They got taken apart like a dollar watch in the 3rd and 4th quarters and OT. Kelce was apparently a surprise to them and they let Mahomes run for 40 yards in OT. It was not a great performance.
Kelce was more the result of losing Dre Greenlaw, whose replacement allowed 9 receptions on 9 targets for 137 rating.
RE: Bigger issue was how the D performed vs GB and DET
that that last play of the game was completely botched. The players looked like they were ready for the 2nd OT. If they determined that was on Wilks then yeah, firing him makes sense. That’s a catastrophic error if true.
Check out Bosa's comments. He ostensibly said the D wasn't as prepared as they could have been.
Only gave up 19 points in regular time. And 7 of those were a gift from a Niners special teams screw up if I recall the game correctly.
But whatever.
I'm hearing Shanahan had a say in the defensive game plan, and plus two weeks prep likely evened out coaching issues for either side. It really felt like the offensive and defensive coaching from both sides were excellent in this game given the time available.
It's very fair to say the defense underperformed all season. Offensive DVOA was higher than defensive DVOA for the first time in decades.
High expectations in San Fran? SF Defense was:
8th in Total Yards allowed
3rd in Rush Yards allowed
3rd in Points allowed
7th in Takeaways
9th in Sacks
Check out Bosa's comments. He ostensibly said the D wasn't as prepared as they could have been.
Only gave up 19 points in regular time. And 7 of those were a gift from a Niners special teams screw up if I recall the game correctly.
But whatever.
I'm hearing Shanahan had a say in the defensive game plan, and plus two weeks prep likely evened out coaching issues for either side. It really felt like the offensive and defensive coaching from both sides were excellent in this game given the time available.
It's very fair to say the defense underperformed all season. Offensive DVOA was higher than defensive DVOA for the first time in decades.
High expectations in San Fran? SF Defense was:
8th in Total Yards allowed
3rd in Rush Yards allowed
3rd in Points allowed
7th in Takeaways
9th in Sacks
Check out Bosa's comments. He ostensibly said the D wasn't as prepared as they could have been.
Well, with the SB on the line at 4th & 1, perhaps he should have keyed in on the best player in the NFL instead of Isiah Pacheco.
I agree.
If I'm Bosa, and there's ever a time to guess, I guess on Mahomes keeping it.
And Bosa was fooled earlier on the same play by Mahomes that went for huge yardage. If everyone in my household was screaming to watch out for the same thing on 4th and 1, then maybe Bosa should have been a little bit more aware.
Check out Bosa's comments. He ostensibly said the D wasn't as prepared as they could have been.
Only gave up 19 points in regular time. And 7 of those were a gift from a Niners special teams screw up if I recall the game correctly.
But whatever.
I'm hearing Shanahan had a say in the defensive game plan, and plus two weeks prep likely evened out coaching issues for either side. It really felt like the offensive and defensive coaching from both sides were excellent in this game given the time available.
It's very fair to say the defense underperformed all season. Offensive DVOA was higher than defensive DVOA for the first time in decades.
High expectations in San Fran? SF Defense was:
8th in Total Yards allowed
3rd in Rush Yards allowed
3rd in Points allowed
7th in Takeaways
9th in Sacks
Hmmmm.
You think Bowen would enjoy being a defensive assistant more? :D
Maybe, but it looked like he totally took the cheese and failed to contain by collapsing inside...
Why can't we just recognize good play design? If Bosa keyed on Mahomes and Mahomes handed it off, would everyone be saying why did Bosa key on Mahomes, the guy never runs the ball!
Steve Wilks is not a mediocre defensive coach, nor would I think he lazily underprepared his unit. Crazy to think that he's good enough to get them to the SB, but when they get there he's just interested in radio row.
Sad truth is, 49ers lost that game and all 3 phases are to blame. Everyone in that building needs to look in the mirror.
Maybe, but it looked like he totally took the cheese and failed to contain by collapsing inside...
He could have made a bad play but those happen, the opponent gets paid to make you miss. I’m under the assumption Wilks made an egregious error prepping the team because that’s what it looked like on that last play. If they determined that was on him, firing him makes sense.
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Two things ...
1) Wilks was the first outside-the-family coordinator hire that Shanahan has made.
2) Along those lines, Brandon Staley has coached in that coaching family. And he's also a disciple of Vic Fangio, who Shanahan tried to get in 2017.
lol
The D couldn't stop Mahomes the last two drives of the game with the lead.
They did have a rough patch on D this season. They gave up 16 points in the second half and then the overtime drive.
Well Wilks wasn't a groomed DC like the rest.
Saleh was hired from the Jags and stayed for 4 seasons. Demeco Ryans was hired at the same time as quality control coach then promoted to LB coach before taking over as coordinator when Saleh left.
It appears Shanahan didn't feel the right successor was present in house, and I guess felt Wilks could be the right DC. But he was hired under the premise to continue running the same style defense with his tweaks.
Eye test wise, it wasn't a great year. An awesome 2-3 quarters in the Super Bowl, but even most non Niner fans could see the difference.
During that 3 game losing streak, it became very hard to fathom this team being in the Super Bowl, and it wasn't because of Purdy.
But with all due respect to KC, their defense shouldn't be better.
Better corners, and a better DT. The rest, no.
Right?
Only gave up 19 points in regular time. And 7 of those were a gift from a Niners special teams screw up if I recall the game correctly.
But whatever.
Shanahan added that it was a tough decision but said Wilks' system didn't align with what the 49ers had previously used.
"It just ended up not being the right fit," he said."
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Well, with the SB on the line at 4th & 1, perhaps he should have keyed in on the best player in the NFL instead of Isiah Pacheco.
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Check out Bosa's comments. He ostensibly said the D wasn't as prepared as they could have been.
Only gave up 19 points in regular time. And 7 of those were a gift from a Niners special teams screw up if I recall the game correctly.
But whatever.
I'm hearing Shanahan had a say in the defensive game plan, and plus two weeks prep likely evened out coaching issues for either side. It really felt like the offensive and defensive coaching from both sides were excellent in this game given the time available.
It's very fair to say the defense underperformed all season. Offensive DVOA was higher than defensive DVOA for the first time in decades.
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extremely good in the Super Bowl and all year in fact. I don’t care who the DC is, Mahomes wanted that TD and he wasn’t going to be denied. Also Greenlaws injury was huge and how is that Wilks fault?
They got taken apart like a dollar watch in the 3rd and 4th quarters and OT. Kelce was apparently a surprise to them and they let Mahomes run for 40 yards in OT. It was not a great performance.
Kelce was more the result of losing Dre Greenlaw, whose replacement allowed 9 receptions on 9 targets for 137 rating.
Yep, as a few said above.
The were fortunate to win both those games to be quite honest.
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It was the offense that fell short in the Super Bowl.
The D couldn't stop Mahomes the last two drives of the game with the lead.
We’ll never know for sure, but if Greenlaw doesn’t tear the Achilles, we might have seen a different outcome …
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Check out Bosa's comments. He ostensibly said the D wasn't as prepared as they could have been.
Well, with the SB on the line at 4th & 1, perhaps he should have keyed in on the best player in the NFL instead of Isiah Pacheco.
I agree.
If I'm Bosa, and there's ever a time to guess, I guess on Mahomes keeping it.
I had the same thought.
San Francisco never looked right.
Baltimore no showed at home as the #1 seed.
KC seemed to just slide right in and take another title after having an uncharacteristically ordinary regular season by their standards.
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Check out Bosa's comments. He ostensibly said the D wasn't as prepared as they could have been.
Only gave up 19 points in regular time. And 7 of those were a gift from a Niners special teams screw up if I recall the game correctly.
But whatever.
I'm hearing Shanahan had a say in the defensive game plan, and plus two weeks prep likely evened out coaching issues for either side. It really felt like the offensive and defensive coaching from both sides were excellent in this game given the time available.
It's very fair to say the defense underperformed all season. Offensive DVOA was higher than defensive DVOA for the first time in decades.
High expectations in San Fran? SF Defense was:
8th in Total Yards allowed
3rd in Rush Yards allowed
3rd in Points allowed
7th in Takeaways
9th in Sacks
Maybe, but it looked like he totally took the cheese and failed to contain by collapsing inside...
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Check out Bosa's comments. He ostensibly said the D wasn't as prepared as they could have been.
Only gave up 19 points in regular time. And 7 of those were a gift from a Niners special teams screw up if I recall the game correctly.
But whatever.
I'm hearing Shanahan had a say in the defensive game plan, and plus two weeks prep likely evened out coaching issues for either side. It really felt like the offensive and defensive coaching from both sides were excellent in this game given the time available.
It's very fair to say the defense underperformed all season. Offensive DVOA was higher than defensive DVOA for the first time in decades.
High expectations in San Fran? SF Defense was:
8th in Total Yards allowed
3rd in Rush Yards allowed
3rd in Points allowed
7th in Takeaways
9th in Sacks
Amazing.
Is the OL coach still there?...
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Check out Bosa's comments. He ostensibly said the D wasn't as prepared as they could have been.
Well, with the SB on the line at 4th & 1, perhaps he should have keyed in on the best player in the NFL instead of Isiah Pacheco.
I agree.
If I'm Bosa, and there's ever a time to guess, I guess on Mahomes keeping it.
And Bosa was fooled earlier on the same play by Mahomes that went for huge yardage. If everyone in my household was screaming to watch out for the same thing on 4th and 1, then maybe Bosa should have been a little bit more aware.
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In comment 16399088 bw in dc said:
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Check out Bosa's comments. He ostensibly said the D wasn't as prepared as they could have been.
Only gave up 19 points in regular time. And 7 of those were a gift from a Niners special teams screw up if I recall the game correctly.
But whatever.
I'm hearing Shanahan had a say in the defensive game plan, and plus two weeks prep likely evened out coaching issues for either side. It really felt like the offensive and defensive coaching from both sides were excellent in this game given the time available.
It's very fair to say the defense underperformed all season. Offensive DVOA was higher than defensive DVOA for the first time in decades.
High expectations in San Fran? SF Defense was:
8th in Total Yards allowed
3rd in Rush Yards allowed
3rd in Points allowed
7th in Takeaways
9th in Sacks
Hmmmm.
You think Bowen would enjoy being a defensive assistant more? :D
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you don’t even know what his assignment was.
Maybe, but it looked like he totally took the cheese and failed to contain by collapsing inside...
Why can't we just recognize good play design? If Bosa keyed on Mahomes and Mahomes handed it off, would everyone be saying why did Bosa key on Mahomes, the guy never runs the ball!
Sad truth is, 49ers lost that game and all 3 phases are to blame. Everyone in that building needs to look in the mirror.
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you don’t even know what his assignment was.
Maybe, but it looked like he totally took the cheese and failed to contain by collapsing inside...
He could have made a bad play but those happen, the opponent gets paid to make you miss. I’m under the assumption Wilks made an egregious error prepping the team because that’s what it looked like on that last play. If they determined that was on him, firing him makes sense.
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It was the offense that fell short in the Super Bowl.
The D couldn't stop Mahomes the last two drives of the game with the lead.