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NFC team has JJ Mcarthy as QB2

ajr2456 : 2/14/2024 7:49 pm
Wonder if it’s Washington
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/14/2024 7:51 pm : link
I have no idea what to make of him. Michigan didn't ask much of him.

But I think he'll go in the first.
What are you hearing?  
NormanAllen_95 : 2/14/2024 7:52 pm : link
You mentioned you are in the ahent boz previously.
When these things come out,  
robbieballs2003 : 2/14/2024 7:53 pm : link
it is never by a team drafting a QB unless some idiot got drunk. It is by a team not taking a QB and most likely someone nowhere near the top of the draft.
Hopefully the source is Schoen...  
bw in dc : 2/14/2024 8:02 pm : link
with the intent to drive up McCarthy's stock so one of the real Big Three falls to six.
He's not alone  
Sy'56 : 2/14/2024 8:02 pm : link
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RE: He's not alone  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/14/2024 8:03 pm : link
In comment 16399327 Sy'56 said:
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Do tell.
RE: He's not alone  
Sammo85 : 2/14/2024 8:11 pm : link
In comment 16399327 Sy'56 said:
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Cryptic only in sense I take this to mean that Maye and Williams aren’t the 1-2 universality combination of top QBs by some teams. I feel like several teams will have Daniels up there and wouldn’t stun me to see some Nix support ahead of Maye.
Colin Cowherd is also on record that an NFL GM has Nix as QB 2  
bigbluewillrise : 2/14/2024 8:12 pm : link
maybe we will get a QB....
You guys realize it’s us right???  
TeamSchlitz1 : 2/14/2024 8:15 pm : link
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And I presume in this case QB2 means  
ThomasG : 2/14/2024 8:16 pm : link
the backup quarterback on a team.
Keep in mind every year we hear  
jvm52106 : 2/14/2024 8:17 pm : link
this guy has moved up etc but that is usually because the original "lists" are by people NOT in the league. When news, rumors and info starts leaking about what teams are saying to agents etc. then we hear this guy is rising and this guy is falling..

I think back to 2018 and the QB's there.

Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen and Lamar Jackson.

Heading into the draft very few if anyone was listing Mayfield as the top pick. Allen was all over the place because of supposed accuracy issues, Darnold was the sexy pick but with flaws, Rosen the most skilled but also with concussion issues and lack of true Football commitment and then Jackson who most didn't see as a first option.

Right now I think Williams is the unquestioned #1 QB "prospect" and yet he isn't the guy I want the most. The amount we would need to give up to get him (if even possible) would be too high. Plus, I am not convinced he is the best option for the Giants.

Maye is a solid fit and could be in play for us with a move up.

Daniels is a wild card but has risks.

McCarthy is the guy I am starting to think is destined to be a Giant- at #6. He sits to start the season and Jones gets moved or benched before the season is over. My thinking is he shows enough and we move him at the trade deadline.
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BrettNYG10 : 2/14/2024 8:17 pm : link
I think NFL teams usually have more variety to their rankings than the draftniks.
I think everyone should wait  
JT039 : 2/14/2024 8:24 pm : link
Until the combine pro days before making judgment.

I can see a few of these QBs really putting on a show.
Say it ain't so  
AROCK1000 : 2/14/2024 8:26 pm : link
In comment 16399327 Sy'56 said:
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RE: RE: He's not alone  
bw in dc : 2/14/2024 8:29 pm : link
In comment 16399328 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 16399327 Sy'56 said:


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Do tell.


I think what's happening is Maye may be dropping (in some circles) and the beneficiary - sort of speak - is McCarthy.

Personally, I find that laughable. But one man's junk can easily be another man's gold... ;)
I think we are hearing JJ rise  
Rave7 : 2/14/2024 8:32 pm : link
because coaches are becoming more involved in studying and providing input to the scouting department and GM. Eventually, I think JJ is likely to be selected higher than his perceived stock during the college football season.
I believe JJ possesses all the qualities that coaches admire in a prospect, even more so than scouts.
RE: I think everyone should wait  
bw in dc : 2/14/2024 8:32 pm : link
In comment 16399343 JT039 said:
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Until the combine pro days before making judgment.

I can see a few of these QBs really putting on a show.


I can't wait to see McCarthy getting advice from his mental health coach between drills. ;)
FWIW  
AROCK1000 : 2/14/2024 8:33 pm : link
PFF has JJ at #52....
That's about right.
He checks so many boxes  
Reeses Pieces : 2/14/2024 8:33 pm : link
Unfortunately for most, he did not have the opportunity to put it all on display with Michigan’s play style.
RE: FWIW  
bw in dc : 2/14/2024 8:39 pm : link
In comment 16399353 AROCK1000 said:
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PFF has JJ at #52....
That's about right.


They have an interesting list overall. But I agree that they have McCarthy in the right spot - middle of day two.
RE: RE: RE: He's not alone  
JT039 : 2/14/2024 8:51 pm : link
In comment 16399350 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16399327 Sy'56 said:


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Do tell.



I think what's happening is Maye may be dropping (in some circles) and the beneficiary - sort of speak - is McCarthy.

Personally, I find that laughable. But one man's junk can easily be another man's gold... ;)


Maybe if Caleb misses a few throws and starts crying - he can introduce him to Williams haha
Maybe we should have listened to Jim Harbaugh  
Ben in Tampa : 2/14/2024 8:51 pm : link
Two weeks ago
People  
TommyWiseau : 2/14/2024 8:52 pm : link
In the business are much higher on him then the fans and pundits. He will probably go top 10-12
I like JJ as much as Daniels  
UberAlias : 2/14/2024 9:06 pm : link
I’m not as high on Daniels as much as most.
RE: ...  
knowledgetimmons : 2/14/2024 9:07 pm : link
In comment 16399317 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I have no idea what to make of him. Michigan didn't ask much of him.

But I think he'll go in the first.


Agreed. I think this report is only a revelation to us plebes. I also think there will be more than one truly great QB’s in the first two rounds this year. I hope we pick a one.
he is a winner  
RasputinPrime : 2/14/2024 9:09 pm : link
you can't teach that.
RE: he is a winner  
bw in dc : 2/14/2024 9:19 pm : link
In comment 16399376 RasputinPrime said:
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you can't teach that.


You can't?

Care to know Elway's record at Stanford? Mahomes's at Texas Tech?

Yeah, it's really challenging winning at IMG and Michigan.
Game Manager at the College level  
AROCK1000 : 2/14/2024 9:31 pm : link
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RE: Colin Cowherd is also on record that an NFL GM has Nix as QB 2  
Toth029 : 2/14/2024 9:33 pm : link
In comment 16399335 bigbluewillrise said:
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maybe we will get a QB....


Cowherd himself said JJ is a 3rd rounder.

McCarthy isn't dropping past 12. He's going top ten.
RE: RE: he is a winner  
knowledgetimmons : 2/14/2024 9:35 pm : link
In comment 16399379 bw in dc said:
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you can't teach that.



You can't?

Care to know Elway's record at Stanford? Mahomes's at Texas Tech?

Yeah, it's really challenging winning at IMG and Michigan.


Bw, your opinion carries so much weight around here, I’m really hopefully that you’ll drop some intel about your pro scout opinion. Care to share it?

Otherwise I’ll just help you hijack this thread with bullshit. You’ve already posted 4 times. Maybe…just not think so highly of your expert opinion? Or just stake your claim so we can laugh at it later….?
RE: Game Manager at the College level  
JT039 : 2/14/2024 9:37 pm : link
In comment 16399383 AROCK1000 said:
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I’ll take whoever QBs for Wisconsin for 500, Alex.
RE: RE: He's not alone  
Brown_Hornet : 2/14/2024 9:41 pm : link
In comment 16399334 Sammo85 said:
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Cryptic only in sense I take this to mean that Maye and Williams aren’t the 1-2 universality combination of top QBs by some teams. I feel like several teams will have Daniels up there and wouldn’t stun me to see some Nix support ahead of Maye.
Take it at face value.
Just because fans on a NFL team forum are convinced of one thing, doesn't mean they know more than a fan knows.
No matter how much they like their own thoughts.

Sy's comment is intriguing. I can't wait for his  
Blue21 : 2/14/2024 9:48 pm : link
Analysis of this QB class. I m curious what he thinks of Nix too.
Gonna be high quality entertainment to see BBI  
BleedBlue46 : 2/14/2024 9:48 pm : link
If we pick JJ #6. Getcho popcorn ready!
Ben Allbright is very plugged in  
Big Rick in FL : 2/14/2024 9:52 pm : link
He just tweeted this

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You're gonna see a lot of chatter about McCarthy starting to ramp up as media catches up to/learns about where league scouting stands.

The above message was him responding to a tweet he made 6 days ago that said the league is higher on JJ (top 10) than Nix/Penix (2nd/3rd)

We might really get lucky and have Maye/Daniels fall right into our lap at 6 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
Ben Allbright is very plugged in  
Big Rick in FL : 2/14/2024 9:53 pm : link
He just tweeted this

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You're gonna see a lot of chatter about McCarthy starting to ramp up as media catches up to/learns about where league scouting stands.

The above message was him responding to a tweet he made 6 days ago that said the league is higher on JJ (top 10) than Nix/Penix (2nd/3rd)

We might really get lucky and have Maye/Daniels fall right into our lap at 6 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
McCarthy is the real deal  
ElitoCanton : 2/14/2024 9:56 pm : link
He makes amazing NFL level throws all the time. I've been saying this for a while. Hope the Giants get him or Maye. Williams and Daniels are going 1-2.
RE: ....  
Milton : 2/14/2024 9:58 pm : link
In comment 16399341 BrettNYG10 said:
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I think NFL teams usually have more variety to their rankings than the draftniks.
This is surely true, but I think any team that has McCarthy (or Nix and Penix for that matter) as their QB2 isn't about to leak it to a reporter.
RE: he is a winner  
k2tampa : 2/14/2024 10:00 pm : link
In comment 16399376 RasputinPrime said:
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you can't teach that.


Winner? So were Manziel, Wuerffel, Tebow, Torretta, Ward, Weinke, Crouch, Detmer, etc. Would you want any one of them as the Giants' QB? Sometimes QBs are winners because of the teams they play on. Sometimes they aren't winners because their teams are bad. Mahomes was 13-19 at Texas Tech. Does that mean he's not a winner?
There's a ton  
Scooter185 : 2/14/2024 10:04 pm : link
Of angst over JJ on r/NYGiants
RE: RE: he is a winner  
NormanAllen_95 : 2/14/2024 10:05 pm : link
In comment 16399401 k2tampa said:
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you can't teach that.



Winner? So were Manziel, Wuerffel, Tebow, Torretta, Ward, Weinke, Crouch, Detmer, etc. Would you want any one of them as the Giants' QB? Sometimes QBs are winners because of the teams they play on. Sometimes they aren't winners because their teams are bad. Mahomes was 13-19 at Texas Tech. Does that mean he's not a winner?


Hyperbole at its finest. Lol
it's amazing how triggering some guys are every year  
Eric on Li : 2/14/2024 10:22 pm : link
guess mccarthy is that guy this year.
Wait - is bw pretending to be some sort of expert  
speedywheels : 2/14/2024 10:28 pm : link
and shitting on others who have a differing opinion?

Wow. That's never happened before. I'm shocked. Just shocked I tell you!

PS - Malik Willis says hi...
Look...  
speedywheels : 2/14/2024 10:31 pm : link
NYG need a QB, that's clear.

I am no expert, for sure, so I don't pretend to know who the right guy is. But if they draft JJ, I can't wait to see the heads of some posters to completely explode.

And then I hope the kid comes in and KILLS it. Just to show those assholes who think they know it, that they haven't a fucking clue...
The more I watch of him, the more I likeq  
bigblue5611 : 2/14/2024 10:31 pm : link
I’d take him at 6 if he’s there.
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christian : 2/14/2024 10:32 pm : link
I think it's all an anti-Jones narrative. Amirite?
RE: There's a ton  
bw in dc : 2/14/2024 10:39 pm : link
In comment 16399403 Scooter185 said:
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Of angst over JJ on r/NYGiants


IMV, McCarthy is a tough evaluation. There is athleticism to his game that is intriguing, and he can get vertical pretty quickly when he takes off.

But then there is the passer part and that seems more complicated to me.

If you are sold on the passing part, then he's a day one prospect.
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BrettNYG10 : 2/14/2024 10:43 pm : link
I thought McCarthy's release looked a little weird but I only watched two games of his. He showed a lot of nice things but I thought Daniels/Williams were clearly better in the limited time I saw the three play.
Got  
AcidTest : 2/14/2024 10:48 pm : link
to admit, the more film I watch of him, the more I like him. He has a lot of plus attributes, and there is no question he can make NFL throws. His processing ability is apparently also very good. My guess is that the buzz and excitement about him only increase during and after the combine and his pro day. Those are the perfect places for him to showcase his arm strength and athletic ability. It looks like if the Giants want him, they will have to take him at #6.
The guy spent the season  
AROCK1000 : 2/14/2024 10:49 pm : link
Knowing the other teams plays...
Then when that got taken away,he was very very average.
Not sure why so many smart people don't see that.
Dems is da facts...
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