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section125 : 2/15/2024 8:44 am
Good morning all. Last season really put a damper on enthusiasm, hasn't it? No threads on ST or Yankees baseball. Even the addition of Juan Soto isn't enough to bring out the "faithful".

With pitchers and catchers reporting, I thought someone would have started a thread. With all this lack of talk, I suppose, most of you are not really expecting much this year. I know I am a bit disappointed with the offseason. Seems like pitching will be Gerrit Cole and some others. BP has a few arms and at least the team seems to find effective pitchers out of the pen.
As much as I love Nestor, I think adding that 3 or 4 mph really stresses his arm and he has trouble staying in the rotation. Schmidt was actually improving through the year and seems to be a reliable 4 or 5. Rodon, meh. Stroman - I liked him a few years back, but is he anything more than a 3 or 4 at this point? Anybody else you want to see from the Minors that could make the lineup?

Anyway, let's get the ball rolling on where we see them going this year. Have to believe Baltimore is still top of AL East with the Blue Jays not far behind.
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As things stand, the only backup 1B on the roster  
shyster : 3/9/2024 3:12 am : link
who resembles a major league hitter is DJ LeMahieu.

The upshot of that is that the Yankee backup 3B is in line for double duty: he plays when LeMahieu rests (or is injured) and he plays when Rizzo rests (or is injured) and LeMahieu covers 1B.

Even if Yanks had signed Amed Rosario, he is strictly a middle infielder; never played 3B.

Peraza was, by all appearance, planned to be the "double backup" for 3B. He in fact had far more major league 3B starts last year than at SS and 2B combined.

So Yanks have both the middle infield backup roster hole that Cashman was trying to fill with Rosario and, it appears, an even bigger hole created by Peraza's shoulder injury.

Since everybody in the day's lineup has to hit, that's a lot of plate appearances in 2024 that are up for grabs with no proven major league hitter to take them.

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Del Shofner : 3/9/2024 8:37 am : link
Good post. I think Peraza goes to the DL and Kevin Smith (who?) is added to the 40-man. Smith is a 27 y/o career minor league 3B/SS who we signed in January. Has been in the Jays and A's organizations. Looks like a good field, no hit infielder with some speed. Bench player, but that's what we need there.
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rich in DC : 3/9/2024 8:48 am : link
In comment 16422259 Del Shofner said:
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Good post. I think Peraza goes to the DL and Kevin Smith (who?) is added to the 40-man. Smith is a 27 y/o career minor league 3B/SS who we signed in January. Has been in the Jays and A's organizations. Looks like a good field, no hit infielder with some speed. Bench player, but that's what we need there.


I don't think the INF back up is even in camp right now. I think they will make a trade/waiver claim at the end of ST. Think of Velasquez a couple years ago.
Another bomb today from Wells.  
bceagle05 : 3/9/2024 1:17 pm : link
Love the Trevino/Wells combo behind the plate.
RE: As things stand, the only backup 1B on the roster  
Mike from SI : 3/9/2024 1:44 pm : link
In comment 16422220 shyster said:
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who resembles a major league hitter is DJ LeMahieu.

The upshot of that is that the Yankee backup 3B is in line for double duty: he plays when LeMahieu rests (or is injured) and he plays when Rizzo rests (or is injured) and LeMahieu covers 1B.

Even if Yanks had signed Amed Rosario, he is strictly a middle infielder; never played 3B.

Peraza was, by all appearance, planned to be the "double backup" for 3B. He in fact had far more major league 3B starts last year than at SS and 2B combined.

So Yanks have both the middle infield backup roster hole that Cashman was trying to fill with Rosario and, it appears, an even bigger hole created by Peraza's shoulder injury.

Since everybody in the day's lineup has to hit, that's a lot of plate appearances in 2024 that are up for grabs with no proven major league hitter to take them.


Can Wells play 1b? I am confident in his hitting.
Ben Rice should play 1B.  
Jim in Hoboken : 3/9/2024 2:33 pm : link
I don’t know what position he played in college hockey, but maybe he can pick it.
RE: Ben Rice should play 1B.  
rich in DC : 3/9/2024 3:33 pm : link
In comment 16422672 Jim in Hoboken said:
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I don’t know what position he played in college hockey, but maybe he can pick it.


He basically split time between 1B and C last season. He likes to catch, but missing two full seasons of college ball and then most of another after signing has really hurt his development behind the plate.
Josh VanMeter played 3B today -  
Del Shofner : 3/9/2024 3:49 pm : link
28 y/o, another career minor leaguer although a little more MLB experience than Smith. They're really fishing for a backup 3B with Peraza out. Although as Rich says, possible they'll pick someone up at cutdown time.
Peraza out 6-8 weeks  
rich in DC : 3/9/2024 4:12 pm : link
That means not only out for that time, but then likely up to a month of getting himself back in playing shape, followed by a lot of AAA games and ABs.

Next up.
Update on Peraza - ( New Window )
RE: RE: As things stand, the only backup 1B on the roster  
shyster : 3/10/2024 12:04 am : link
In comment 16422619 Mike from SI said:
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Can Wells play 1b? I am confident in his hitting.


Wells did play some 1B in college but has not done so since the Yankees drafted him in 2020.

From all appearances Yanks want him to focus on catching. And if he were to suffer an injury playing 1B, it would be hard to forgive, because he's an important piece.

Great to see him crush that HR today.
another HR for Soto -  
Del Shofner : 3/10/2024 2:35 pm : link
his OPS for the spring is a tidy 1.278...
RE: another HR for Soto -  
GFAN52 : 3/10/2024 2:37 pm : link
In comment 16423360 Del Shofner said:
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his OPS for the spring is a tidy 1.278...


Whatever contract Boras brings to the Yankees they better match it for him. Of course it'll be up to Soto to decide if he want to return to the Yankees.
Nice to see that Soto  
section125 : 3/10/2024 2:39 pm : link
is maintaining his reputation as a deadly batter.
Trevino returns  
section125 : 3/10/2024 2:41 pm : link
with vengeance!
RE: another HR for Soto -  
Del Shofner : 3/10/2024 3:00 pm : link
In comment 16423360 Del Shofner said:
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his OPS for the spring is a tidy 1.278...


apologies ... that's just his slugging % ... his OPS is like 1.8 at this point.
Soto looks good in those pinstripes.  
bceagle05 : 3/10/2024 3:10 pm : link
I think he’s gonna retire a Yankee.
RE: RE: another HR for Soto -  
Mike from SI : 3/10/2024 3:36 pm : link
In comment 16423378 Del Shofner said:
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his OPS for the spring is a tidy 1.278...



apologies ... that's just his slugging % ... his OPS is like 1.8 at this point.


Lol. More meaningful to me is that Rizzo is having a good spring, which confirms again that it was the concussion that turned him into the worst hitter in baseball.
^^^^^  
Del Shofner : 3/10/2024 4:10 pm : link
yeah, would love to see Rizzo come back strong.
Just got tickets for when the Dodgers are in town in June.  
Jim in Hoboken : 3/10/2024 4:17 pm : link
Let's hope Cortes and Schimdt were just working on something.

NY Post article on Stanton, 'new physique' etc. -  
Del Shofner : 3/11/2024 10:58 am : link
trying to be glass half full on him, but I'll believe it when I see it in the regular season. Not that he's looked great in preseason.
Link - ( New Window )
Cole having on MRI on pitching elbow.  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/11/2024 11:28 am : link
Season might be over before it even started.

Typical Yankees post 2009.
Went through the highlights of both games today.  
Jim in Hoboken : 3/11/2024 4:57 pm : link
Beeter was sitting 95-96 for the first 3 innings. Then Gil came in and blew the door off. Struck out Harper on a 100mph FB, changeup was at 93 haha. He looked really good.

In the other game, Warren doesn't throw anything straight, but was 93-94 mostly with high of 95.

First Cole now Judge  
Bubba : 3/12/2024 10:53 am : link
having MRI on oblique.
Yankees have been one of the most unlucky  
GFAN52 : 3/12/2024 10:56 am : link
injury prone team that I can remember.
RE: First Cole now Judge  
rnargi : 3/12/2024 11:42 am : link
In comment 16427732 Bubba said:
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having MRI on oblique.


"...and I get on my knees and pray,

We won't get fooled again...

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..."
Yankees make new offer for Dylan Cease  
GFAN52 : 3/12/2024 1:03 pm : link
Bob Nightengale
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The Yankees, while awaiting news on Gerrit Cole, have re-engaged with the Chicago White Sox and made a new proposal for ace Dylan Cease, but the new offer once again did not include prized outfield prospect Spencer Jones.


I wonder if the Yankees are fearing the worst now on Cole.
Judge update per ESPN -  
Del Shofner : 3/12/2024 1:07 pm : link
"Judge told reporters Tuesday morning that he underwent an MRI on his abdominal area and said the test did not show any structural damage. The five-time All-Star outfielder said he won't swing a bat until at least later in the week but added that he hopes to be ready for Opening Day."
I don't understand why give up blue chip prospects for Cease  
Stu11 : 3/12/2024 1:12 pm : link
Who has a down year last year when all you have to do is write a check to Snell? Luxury tax? Come on what are we shopping at Walmart?
Cole update at start of today's game..  
rnargi : 3/12/2024 1:13 pm : link
..they said he's going for more tests.
RE: Cole update at start of today's game..  
GFAN52 : 3/12/2024 1:18 pm : link
In comment 16428132 rnargi said:
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..they said he's going for more tests.


Doesn't sound good.
RE: I don't understand why give up blue chip prospects for Cease  
rich in DC : 3/12/2024 2:18 pm : link
In comment 16428130 Stu11 said:
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Who has a down year last year when all you have to do is write a check to Snell? Luxury tax? Come on what are we shopping at Walmart?


They would also have to give up 2 draft picks and $1M in international FA money
RE: RE: I don't understand why give up blue chip prospects for Cease  
Stu11 : 3/12/2024 2:33 pm : link
In comment 16428331 rich in DC said:
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Who has a down year last year when all you have to do is write a check to Snell? Luxury tax? Come on what are we shopping at Walmart?



They would also have to give up 2 draft picks and $1M in international FA money

I get that but they are not first rounders correct? and as for the international $ so you'd rather give up guys who may be major league ready soon or within a season or so for the promise of a kid in the DR who is currently 15 years old?
RE: RE: Cole update at start of today's game..  
section125 : 3/12/2024 4:10 pm : link
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..they said he's going for more tests.



Doesn't sound good.


Not for nothing, but the MRI would have shown the UCL torn and no further tests would be needed.

RE: RE: RE: Cole update at start of today's game..  
Mike from SI : 3/12/2024 4:25 pm : link
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..they said he's going for more tests.



Doesn't sound good.



Not for nothing, but the MRI would have shown the UCL torn and no further tests would be needed.


How sure are you about this? There are different kinds of MRIs, and maybe it showed something partial? Unfortunately I think this might just be a waiting game.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Cole update at start of today's game..  
section125 : 3/12/2024 4:30 pm : link
In comment 16428679 Mike from SI said:
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..they said he's going for more tests.



Doesn't sound good.



Not for nothing, but the MRI would have shown the UCL torn and no further tests would be needed.




How sure are you about this? There are different kinds of MRIs, and maybe it showed something partial? Unfortunately I think this might just be a waiting game.


They send guys for MRIs all the time. In an hour or two we hear about a ruptured UCL or not. When was the last time someone was sent for an MRI that the results weren't known almost immediately?

Yes it could be, but to me this indicates the MRI is not showing the UCL is torn. Cannot remember the last time a player was sent and it wasn't clearly shown.

Need to go back and get a radiology degree, I suppose!

Wishful thinking
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