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Trade Proposition DJ for Deshaun Watson plus a 2nd

AROCK1000 : 2/16/2024 12:21 pm
Mike Tanenbaum put this one on the table,and I am not sure what to make of it...
DJ for Deshaun and a 2nd
DW has 3 yrs left at $50MM which is fully guaranteed.
My gut says no....
What say the P-nut Gallery?
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Hell no!!  
Fishmanjim57 : 2/16/2024 6:54 pm : link
There's no way Joe Schoen would do such a horrible trade. There's also no way that co-owner meddling Mara would approve such a deal.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/16/2024 6:55 pm : link
Watson was a stud with Houston, but has been blah @ best w/ Cleveland. He's a better QB than Jones. That's undeniable.

But the whole off the field stuff has to be considered.
SF  
AROCK1000 : 2/16/2024 6:58 pm : link
In comment 16401061 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Watson was a stud with Houston, but has been blah @ best w/ Cleveland. He's a better QB than Jones. That's undeniable.

But the whole off the field stuff has to be considered.

If we had a OL and weapons,I may feel differently...
Do you think the NY market could deal with having him as our QB?
ARock.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/16/2024 7:06 pm : link
The whole 'big bad NY media' is complete horseshit IMO, at least in 2024. I think it mattered 20 years ago before social media/Twitter/everyone being online...I think Eli's personality was perfect for the area, while Rivers would have been a disaster here.
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BrettNYG10 : 2/16/2024 7:12 pm : link
I don't want Watson because of his off-field behavior but he hasn't been good since 2020. It's actually shocking how bad he's been.
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BrettNYG10 : 2/16/2024 7:23 pm : link
Also, I think you need at least two firsts to take on Watson's contract, it's that bad.
I never felt the guy was a championship QB...  
DefenseWins : 2/16/2024 7:41 pm : link
and is more valuable as a fantasy QB. Maybe not even that anymore.

I would not want him as our QB even at half the salary
All I can say is -  
section125 : 2/16/2024 7:54 pm : link
WTF?
RE: All I can say is -  
DefenseWins : 2/16/2024 8:07 pm : link
In comment 16401099 section125 said:
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WTF?


+1.... from the old section 131
Stuff like this from a former  
pjcas18 : 2/16/2024 8:08 pm : link
GM is what influences half the threads from fans on here and I guess it's kind of justified. They feel empowered. I mean if a former GM thinks this trade makes sense are they really smarter than the average fan?
SF  
AROCK1000 : 2/16/2024 8:27 pm : link
In comment 16401068 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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The whole 'big bad NY media' is complete horseshit IMO, at least in 2024. I think it mattered 20 years ago before social media/Twitter/everyone being online...I think Eli's personality was perfect for the area, while Rivers would have been a disaster here.

I was just talking to a buddy about the Eli/Rivers draftday deal and what would have been if it hadn't hapoened
watson  
fl giants fan : 2/16/2024 8:28 pm : link
if that was to happen, I would never root for them agin. Lets go get a criminal/asshole.
He would be a good fit in New England  
Giantimistic : 2/16/2024 8:37 pm : link
Kraft would ok the trade.
Why is this even a conversation?  
Giant John : 2/16/2024 10:50 pm : link
For so many reasons zero chance.
Pjcas  
AROCK1000 : 2/16/2024 11:06 pm : link
In comment 16401109 pjcas18 said:
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GM is what influences half the threads from fans on here and I guess it's kind of justified. They feel empowered. I mean if a former GM thinks this trade makes sense are they really smarter than the average fan?

Interesting take
Care to elaborate?
RE: I never felt the guy was a championship QB...  
JoeSchoens11 : 2/17/2024 8:10 am : link
In comment 16401087 DefenseWins said:
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and is more valuable as a fantasy QB. Maybe not even that anymore.

I would not want him as our QB even at half the salary
He literally is a championship qb and was special in his early nfl years grinding out wins with some clutch play.

I haven’t seen that guy since his…ahem…break from the game so he’s obviously not even a consideration. As it stands, both teams are looking forward to getting the contracts of their books. We just won’t have to wait as long.
RE: ...  
FStubbs : 2/17/2024 8:54 am : link
In comment 16401061 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Watson was a stud with Houston, but has been blah @ best w/ Cleveland. He's a better QB than Jones. That's undeniable.

But the whole off the field stuff has to be considered.


I'm not sure this is true anymore.
Click bait  
56goat : 2/17/2024 9:15 am : link
DOA
RE: A lot less was known about a player's personal life  
Pete in MD : 2/17/2024 10:56 am : link
In comment 16400685 JonC said:
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and demons, even 20 years ago. Issues with alcohol and substances also isn't uncommon in the NFL.

It's actually very strange how Kerry Collins is still demonized, and made fun of to an extent, for having alcohol issues, while Brett Favre admitted to having a serious opioid addiction. Favre's is downplayed by saying he was addicted to "painkillers."
While I am a huge proponent  
Mike from Ohio : 2/17/2024 12:19 pm : link
of the owner letting the football people make football decisions, this type of decision is an owners to make. Trading for Watson is a reflection on the Giants franchise and reputation that goes beyond what he does on the field. He should be brought decisions like that to weigh in on, and I am sure he would veto it.

I also don't know why either team would make this trade. The Giants get a better QB but less control and more term. The Browns get an injured, underperforming QB who gets paid too much who they can get rid of next year.

Why does anyone do this trade?
RE: While I am a huge proponent  
AROCK1000 : 2/17/2024 1:21 pm : link
In comment 16401369 Mike from Ohio said:
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of the owner letting the football people make football decisions, this type of decision is an owners to make. Trading for Watson is a reflection on the Giants franchise and reputation that goes beyond what he does on the field. He should be brought decisions like that to weigh in on, and I am sure he would veto it.

I also don't know why either team would make this trade. The Giants get a better QB but less control and more term. The Browns get an injured, underperforming QB who gets paid too much who they can get rid of next year.

Why does anyone do this trade?

Tannenbuam argued that the Browns get DJ who would benfit from a decent Ol and weapons around him
The Giants get a tremendous talent to build around for the next 3 yrs
RE: “ “We're not trading for Deshaun Watson.”  
Jim in Tampa : 2/17/2024 5:49 pm : link
In comment 16400683 HardTruth said:
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- said “Mr. Not In Charge” John Mara

It would be funny if the Watson for Jones trade happened to see all the threads started asking the question:

Why didn't Mara do something to block the trade?
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