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Xavier McKinney begins negotiations on X/Twitter

Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/16/2024 12:51 pm
Xavier McKinney @mckinney15__

I want to be appreciated in every way for what I do and bring to the table . As a player and as a leader . I’ve stood by myself ten toes through the critics , the hate etc. sacrificing what those around me didn’t want too or were afraid too for those same people to make it a better situation for all of us . May not always have been beneficial for me but it was for US . Don’t let that go over your head . And I’d do it 10 times over again 🫡
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/16/2024 12:52 pm : link
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Sounds like Xavier McKinney contract talks are underway.

He played a hybrid safety role the last 2 years instead of just what suits his skill set best.

Good to know  
jeff57 : 2/16/2024 12:53 pm : link
He has all 10 toes.
One of the guys  
JT039 : 2/16/2024 12:53 pm : link
I can’t wait to call an ex-Giant.
Hes not getting top dollar  
knowledgetimmons : 2/16/2024 12:54 pm : link
at least, I don't think so. His play is good, not great. Good players get "great" money frequently, but they also don't try to ruin their career during the bye week. Those guys get a haircut come contract time. And i believe Mckinney's ideal money will get a haircut too.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/16/2024 12:56 pm : link
Reading his Tweet you’d forget about his ATV accident that hurt the Giants secondary…
RE: Good to know  
ZogZerg : 2/16/2024 12:57 pm : link
In comment 16400665 jeff57 said:
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He has all 10 toes.


That was my first thought.
😀
Going to be a tough one  
Biteymax22 : 2/16/2024 12:58 pm : link
I don't want to see him go, he's a good player. I also can't see this team where it sits paying big dollars for a safety, specifically after using draft picks on one 2 years running and also hitting on a waiver claim.

Hoping they can find some middle ground on a contract.
RE: One of the guys  
djm : 2/16/2024 12:58 pm : link
In comment 16400668 JT039 said:
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I can’t wait to call an ex-Giant.


I’m afraid to ask, why.
It's part of the game now...  
Dnew15 : 2/16/2024 1:00 pm : link
it wouldn't surprise me to hear that agents are telling their clients to put stuff like this out on social media.
I would move on from this guy  
Chris684 : 2/16/2024 1:01 pm : link
I was done after the ATV incident. Just a moronic thing to do in season.
RE: RE: One of the guys  
jeff57 : 2/16/2024 1:02 pm : link
In comment 16400682 djm said:
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In comment 16400668 JT039 said:


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I can’t wait to call an ex-Giant.



I’m afraid to ask, why.


A lot seem not to like him. I think he's been a solid player and one they can't affored to lose.
You know who else played multiple roles as a safety?  
OBJ_AllDay : 2/16/2024 1:03 pm : link
Antrell Rolle. And he did it a hell of a lot better than X. You don't pay X money as though he's an all pro...
He must have seen his FA ranking that was posted here  
The_Boss : 2/16/2024 1:05 pm : link
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Welp  
djm : 2/16/2024 1:05 pm : link
Our pretty good defense, which for a brief moment actually looked like a good defense, is about to get worse. So that’s fun.
At what cost, is the question  
JonC : 2/16/2024 1:06 pm : link
The maturity, attitude, decision making is something the team must be comfortable with in order to make an offer.

I just don't see the value in X at $12M AAV or more.
He's as good as gone  
Dave on the UWS : 2/16/2024 1:07 pm : link
he's not taking a dime less than 15 million (or there abouts).
Schoen would be INSANE to give him that, with the shape this roster is in. Someone will, better not be us!
RE: Welp  
Matt M. : 2/16/2024 1:08 pm : link
In comment 16400696 djm said:
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Our pretty good defense, which for a brief moment actually looked like a good defense, is about to get worse. So that’s fun.
Not necessarily. I think Belton is every bit as talented and Owens has the talent behind him. We would obviously need to add another S.

McKinney was outstanding in 2022 before getting hurt. Since then, he has been a good, not great, S who flashes a great play now and then.
RE: Welp  
GIANTS128 : 2/16/2024 1:08 pm : link
In comment 16400696 djm said:
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Our pretty good defense, which for a brief moment actually looked like a good defense, is about to get worse. So that’s fun.


Pretty good is giving them a lot of credit...
I don't think that post is going to sit well  
Matt M. : 2/16/2024 1:09 pm : link
with the Giants brass.
RE: RE: RE: One of the guys  
Matt M. : 2/16/2024 1:10 pm : link
In comment 16400690 jeff57 said:
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In comment 16400668 JT039 said:


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I can’t wait to call an ex-Giant.



I’m afraid to ask, why.



A lot seem not to like him. I think he's been a solid player and one they can't affored to lose.
A mediocre defense can't afford to lose a solid player?
You don't overpay a guy  
Matt M. : 2/16/2024 1:10 pm : link
who doesn't know the difference between to and too.
Well I did want to sign him  
mpinmaine : 2/16/2024 1:10 pm : link
Suddenly I am ambivalent.
Why do these athletes have to do this shit?

I'm 56 maybe that's why I don't get it.
I agree that we'll be outbid.  
bceagle05 : 2/16/2024 1:10 pm : link
He's the fourth or fifth best player on our defense behind Dex, Okereke, Banks and hopefully Thibs - don't see us breaking the bank for him.
The defense is in transition and very young, still a greenfield really  
JonC : 2/16/2024 1:11 pm : link
and plenty of holes still to be filled. Adding FS to the list isn't a killer.

Very little about the roster is here for the long haul right now.
RE: You know who else played multiple roles as a safety?  
Blueworm : 2/16/2024 1:12 pm : link
In comment 16400692 OBJ_AllDay said:
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Antrell Rolle. And he did it a hell of a lot better than X. You don't pay X money as though he's an all pro...

At the end of the day, someone might
RE: RE: Welp  
Blueworm : 2/16/2024 1:13 pm : link
In comment 16400704 GIANTS128 said:
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Our pretty good defense, which for a brief moment actually looked like a good defense, is about to get worse. So that’s fun.



Pretty good is giving them a lot of credit...

27th against the run

That's all I have without looking anything up.
RE: RE: You know who else played multiple roles as a safety?  
bceagle05 : 2/16/2024 1:13 pm : link
In comment 16400717 Blueworm said:
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At the end of the day, someone might

Well done.
I think he's a really good player  
Bob from Massachusetts : 2/16/2024 1:14 pm : link
very durable, young, and with flexible skills. I would do whatever I could to re-sign him. No idea what the dollar amount should be. Maybe just a little short of "great", but these kinds of players are hard to find.
Destroying your hand for being an idiot on an ATV  
robbieballs2003 : 2/16/2024 1:15 pm : link
was definitely for us.
He's getting tagged.  
BigBlueNH : 2/16/2024 1:17 pm : link
No way we let him walk. Our most experienced and best secondary defender.
The disease of me  
Sean : 2/16/2024 1:19 pm : link
Everyone wants to be paid. I'm fine letting him walk.
He's a stud. Played just about every snap last year.  
Metnut : 2/16/2024 1:19 pm : link
Only 24 years old. He's exactly the type of player you give a second contract to and is likely to live up to that contract.
I think he's referring to his beef with Martindale and  
Blue21 : 2/16/2024 1:21 pm : link
Standing on his own. He took grief on it but towed the line. Thats my interpretation. I want him back.
RE: Good to know  
logman : 2/16/2024 1:24 pm : link
In comment 16400665 jeff57 said:
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He has all 10 toes.


Must have been wearing good safety shoes that day
People that are basically saying to sign him no matter what  
robbieballs2003 : 2/16/2024 1:25 pm : link
Seem to forget that when he got injured and missed a good chunk of the season, the Giants could have went after his money but chose not to. It seems he has forgotten that too. Even when he came back that year, he wasn't good.
one of the good young players on the team  
hitdog42 : 2/16/2024 1:25 pm : link
you try to keep that type.

by the end of the offseason if you dont keep this type... you will watch the team allocate X million dollars to non giants who are marginal players who will collect a check and be gone in 2 yrs.

keep good players- draft good players--- be opportunistic trading (williams) when possible.

repeat until you have enough good players to compete.
RE: He's a stud. Played just about every snap last year.  
bluefin : 2/16/2024 1:25 pm : link
In comment 16400732 Metnut said:
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Only 24 years old. He's exactly the type of player you give a second contract to and is likely to live up to that contract.

+1
He's not a top safety  
Sammo85 : 2/16/2024 1:28 pm : link
Can't overpay guys just to "keep them" because you drafted them.

This is a salary cap league and there's a ton of safeties.

Some safeties have gotten paid the last few years because they went to teams that HAD to hit the cap floor.
RE: RE: Good to know  
ShocktoBeck : 2/16/2024 1:28 pm : link
In comment 16400680 ZogZerg said:
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He has all 10 toes.



That was my first thought.
😀


Well…considering the history of this franchise, that’s nothing to sneeze at…
Lets give him a hand  
JerseyCityJoe : 2/16/2024 1:32 pm : link
I'd start negotiations showing Joshua Dobbs running though him for a TD.
Look at me … look at me… I’m real good and now I want to be paid.  
Spider56 : 2/16/2024 1:38 pm : link
So many initial reactions. Yes he is, no he’s not, a symbol of the generation, just calling it like it is … ball of confusion.
RE: RE: He's a stud. Played just about every snap last year.  
Matt M. : 2/16/2024 1:40 pm : link
In comment 16400749 bluefin said:
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In comment 16400732 Metnut said:


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Only 24 years old. He's exactly the type of player you give a second contract to and is likely to live up to that contract.


+1
Why is he likely to live up to a premium contract when his play regressed the last year and a half?
Besides the last game of the season,  
robbieballs2003 : 2/16/2024 1:41 pm : link
Can anyone name an impactful game he has had?
RE: He's a stud. Played just about every snap last year.  
Rjanyg : 2/16/2024 1:43 pm : link
In comment 16400732 Metnut said:
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Only 24 years old. He's exactly the type of player you give a second contract to and is likely to live up to that contract.


Yup. Glad somebody said this.
I like X...  
AROCK1000 : 2/16/2024 1:46 pm : link
But it seems odd that just yesterday it came out that he was ranked #50 on the FA list.
He seems to be tuned into what's being said...
RE: Good to know  
mfjmfj : 2/16/2024 1:58 pm : link
In comment 16400665 jeff57 said:
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He has all 10 toes.


Wow!
RE: RE: He's a stud. Played just about every snap last year.  
AZ Blue : 2/16/2024 1:59 pm : link
In comment 16400749 bluefin said:
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In comment 16400732 Metnut said:


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Only 24 years old. He's exactly the type of player you give a second contract to and is likely to live up to that contract.


+1


+2
RE: Besides the last game of the season,  
Matt M. : 2/16/2024 2:02 pm : link
In comment 16400778 robbieballs2003 said:
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Can anyone name an impactful game he has had?
Thank you.

How do people say that want and expect us to improve when they want to re-sign mediocre players to premium contracts?
RE: RE: Besides the last game of the season,  
robbieballs2003 : 2/16/2024 2:09 pm : link
In comment 16400821 Matt M. said:
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Can anyone name an impactful game he has had?

Thank you.

How do people say that want and expect us to improve when they want to re-sign mediocre players to premium contracts?


And, for the record, I am not saying I don't want him back. However, if he is looking for top dollar then, yes, we need to move on. I said the same thing about Jones last year. My max was $30 per. When he was asking for $40, you cannot be afraid to move on.
That final game was maddening.  
mittenedman : 2/16/2024 2:12 pm : link
I don't care what role you're in, playmakers make plays and McKinney wasn't making enough of them to get impact money.

Then all the sudden, he makes 2 All Pro plays on back to back snaps.

Those weren't Stevie Brown INTs. Those were 2 elite plays in a row. I've never seen anyone play a WR screen like that. Great football play.

If it's been determined internally that he's a great player playing out of position, pay him. Playing every snap is unbelievable.
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