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Daniel Jones is Toast & John Mara is the only one in denial

Jripper4201 : 2/17/2024 8:29 am
I mean how does he not see it? He’s blown through three coaches, has never led the league in anything passing related, had one winning season in 6 years and is injury prone. His greatest season as a passer was his rookie year and even that is overblown. The guy had 3 huge games against three terrible teams the Lions, Jets and Redskins at the time. Aside of that the guy is a pedestrian check down QB who rarely throws deep with success, rarely throws for 300 years and defenses key on this in every game daring him to throw. This is a passing league, and he is not a very good passer. He also struggles with reads still. His ineptitude was even made clearer by Taylor and Devitos ability to push the ball down field. I just don’t see what can be unlocked in Jones. He’s our version of Trent Dilfer without a Super Bowl ring but then again that may be giving this guy way too much credit. I just cannot believe that in a crucial 3rd season for a coach and GM that they are going to hitch their wagon to this guy, coming off an ACL injury and whose had little success in this league. Despite what some people on this board say, this guy isn’t elite, has never sniffed elite and will never be a top 10 QB in this league. If Schoen and Daboll want to fall on a sword for Mara’s love affair with this guy, then they better get their resumes ready because 2024 is going to lead to both of them at the unemployment line and Mara looking like the idiot he’s been the almost last decade and a half.
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Jripper4201 : 2/17/2024 4:14 pm : link
In comment 16401451 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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When the Jones era inevitably comes to an end, you’ll have his defenders being like ‘BUT WHAT ABOUT THAT VIKINGS PLAYOFF GAME HATERS!!!’

I have never seen a player get so much mileage out of a performance vs. a horrific defense.


The problem isn’t Daniel Jones the man. He’s great. He just is a sub par QB. He’s coming off a knee injury and won’t be able to utilize his greatest strength his mobility. If he does and gets hurt the Giants are screwed because of his injury clause. Better to let him ride the line and say goodbye in 25 than be stuck with him beyond IMO.
 
ryanmkeane : 2/17/2024 4:30 pm : link
I love how the head coach getting into it with the QB after a bad throw is some type of insane thing that nobody has ever witnessed before
Jripped  
4xchamps : 2/17/2024 4:48 pm : link
You're an idiot for so many reasons I can't count. First, I guess Phil Sims is in denial as well. But you're an even bigger idiot for starting another freaking DJ thread. Get a life brother...
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PatersonPlank : 2/17/2024 5:39 pm : link
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This song is for you! The Beatles - Day Tripper (Official Video) - ( New Window )


Ooops... hit the submit button too fast.

One of my favorite Beatles' song. Every time I see your handle, it looks like the title of this song!


JRipper yeah, it took me so long to find out, but I found out
Numbers don’t lie  
Jripper4201 : 2/17/2024 5:40 pm : link
Tell me one stat that points to Jones as a franchise elite QB? His TD’s a season? LMAO oh wait his win loss record…Ouch…How about his passing yards a game? Even worse…Oh wait last but not least his record against the cowboys eagles…Brutal. Yes I’m an idiot.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/17/2024 5:54 pm : link
In comment 16401517 ryanmkeane said:
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I love how the head coach getting into it with the QB after a bad throw is some type of insane thing that nobody has ever witnessed before


When the DJFC met @ their annual conference, were you voted president or vice president?
RE: Jripped  
Scooter185 : 2/17/2024 6:00 pm : link
In comment 16401522 4xchamps said:
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You're an idiot for so many reasons I can't count. First, I guess Phil Sims is in denial as well. But you're an even bigger idiot for starting another freaking DJ thread. Get a life brother...


Kf he's an idiot for starting it, what's that make you for clicking on and replying to it?
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bw in dc : 2/17/2024 6:09 pm : link
In comment 16401545 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I love how the head coach getting into it with the QB after a bad throw is some type of insane thing that nobody has ever witnessed before



When the DJFC met @ their annual conference, were you voted president or vice president?


Sorry, but Jack Stroud runs that company.
RE: RE: Jripped  
4xchamps : 2/17/2024 6:34 pm : link
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You're an idiot for so many reasons I can't count. First, I guess Phil Sims is in denial as well. But you're an even bigger idiot for starting another freaking DJ thread. Get a life brother...



Kf he's an idiot for starting it, what's that make you for clicking on and replying to it?


Then guess you're an idiot for replying to my thread, asshat
I don't think Daniel Jones sucks  
Sean : 2/17/2024 6:49 pm : link
That's not fair. So, if Ryan brings up the Viking highlights as a counter to Jones not sucking, it's valid.

I just think he's very limited and not worth anything near what he's getting paid. He does t suck. He throws a nice ball, has good straight line speed and is very tough to his credit. He's a back end starter if he's cheap. GM's have been fooled by talents like Jones before and after.

I'm tired of the Jones era. For his sake, I hope he eventually lands somewhere else and is a good fit. But, the Giants need to move on. In today's NFL, you need to be able to produce through the air and via explosive plays. They just aren't there with Jones.
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Scooter185 : 2/17/2024 6:58 pm : link
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You're an idiot for so many reasons I can't count. First, I guess Phil Sims is in denial as well. But you're an even bigger idiot for starting another freaking DJ thread. Get a life brother...



Kf he's an idiot for starting it, what's that make you for clicking on and replying to it?



Then guess you're an idiot for replying to my thread, asshat


Probably, but I'm not the one who entered a topic for the solitary purpose of calling other posters names.
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4xchamps : 2/17/2024 7:28 pm : link
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You're an idiot for so many reasons I can't count. First, I guess Phil Sims is in denial as well. But you're an even bigger idiot for starting another freaking DJ thread. Get a life brother...



Kf he's an idiot for starting it, what's that make you for clicking on and replying to it?



Then guess you're an idiot for replying to my thread, asshat



Probably, but I'm not the one who entered a topic for the solitary purpose of calling other posters names.


That's EXACTLY why you replied to my thread. Hypocrite....
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Scooter185 : 2/17/2024 8:52 pm : link
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You're an idiot for so many reasons I can't count. First, I guess Phil Sims is in denial as well. But you're an even bigger idiot for starting another freaking DJ thread. Get a life brother...



Kf he's an idiot for starting it, what's that make you for clicking on and replying to it?



Then guess you're an idiot for replying to my thread, asshat



Probably, but I'm not the one who entered a topic for the solitary purpose of calling other posters names.



That's EXACTLY why you replied to my thread. Hypocrite....


I was already participating in this topic, your first interaction was to call the op an idiot.
I don't get into the DJ debates anymore.  
BleedBlue46 : 2/17/2024 9:15 pm : link
It is clear to me that we need to draft a qb and if we don't I think Daboll and Schoen are as good as gone. This team needs a QB for Daboll to mold more than anything. I really believe we will get one of the top 4 in rd one. I hope it's Jayden Daniels, but more likely JJ McCarthy. Either way, I will be excited going forward with one of the top 4 and I think Daboll and Schoen know it needs to happen this year.
Daniel Jones will be a great backup QB.  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 2/19/2024 11:09 am : link

Where he should have been, all along.
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kickoff : 2/19/2024 2:14 pm : link
In comment 16401375 Toth029 said:
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Bears need to learn from Giant's mistake Bears should learn from Giants’ Daniel Jones mistake in Justin Fields decision: Kurt Warner - ( New Window )



Jones has had that fumbles-too-much moniker because of his first season. Those gimble numbers have dipped since his second season.

Yet Fields has 38 fumbles in 38 games and no one cares. His inconsistencies is too much to ignore especially with having good talent around him like DJ Moore and Cole Kmet. I've still seen posters in here who would welcome him in NY.

The DJHC loves to criticize any player, coach or ex player who would support DJ. Goes something like this, Oh, what is he supposed to say, or he works for the Giants and is carrying their message, or they're friends. Another words, anyone complimenting DJ has a secret agenda for doing so. However, if Kurt Warner, a guy known to dislike the Giants from his stay there, criticizes DJ, it's, see even Warner knows he was a mistake.
This poster is the biggest mongloid  
bLiTz 2k : 2/19/2024 8:43 pm : link
On this board.
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