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Great Video Analyzing JJ Mccarthy's Game

BleedBlue46 : 2/18/2024 10:56 pm
I just came across this video. It's from a Raiders fan YouTuber, but you can tell he knows his football. I thought he did a really good job of breaking down Mccarthy's tape and organizing it into particular facets of his game that make him an elite prospect. Check it out and let me know what you think!
Why JJ McCarthy is an elite prospect - ( New Window )
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing. I wouldn't be shocked if it's  
Ira : 2/19/2024 5:57 am : link
McCarthy at 6.
I like that he...  
Brown_Hornet : 2/19/2024 7:00 am : link
...keeps his eyes downfield when he scrambles. I love that he appears to be able to see the entire field when he does it.
He looks the part of a top 10 pick.
Daniel Jones is not a fair comp, this kid is legit.
If the Giants like him, 6 is not too early.
The Michigan OL is Elite  
varco : 2/19/2024 7:05 am : link
It's what an OL should be. I think you could put a variety of QB's behind that line and they would look good. Putting Mccarthy behind the Giant's OL would be shocking to him.
JJ  
Hilary : 2/19/2024 7:16 am : link
Very good at throwing the ball on a line has trouble with a ball that needs to be arched over the defenders.
JJ  
Hilary : 2/19/2024 7:58 am : link
If JJ performs well at the combine he may go 5th or 6th. The chargers will not take him but if the giants do not want him there is a good chance that another team will trade up with LA or NYG for JJ. A lot depends on whether teams like Atlanta, Pittsburgh Las Vegas or Tampa go for a veteran like Cousins, Tannehill or Mayfield or if they like JJ. If the giants like him, great, if not a trade down with Atlanta for an extra pick in the second round would be good with all the needs the giants have,
McCarthy  
Archer : 2/19/2024 9:32 am : link
Thanks for the video.

It is amazing that McCarthy while being only 21 is the most pro-ready QB in the draft.

What also should be noted is that in many of those games, he was playing injured with a bad ankle or a torn labrum.


I think that after the combine and teams complete their analysis this will be a 4 QB draft. Some teams will have McCarthy higher than some of the other top 4 QBs.

If the Giants want a QB there should be a QB available.
Meh  
Johnny5 : 2/19/2024 9:42 am : link
I don't know. I just don't see it with him. I think the one guy that MAYBE has a chance to be a really good pro is Williams. None of these other QBs this year really makes me stand up and go "WOW!".
Good news for Giants  
Reale01 : 2/19/2024 9:52 am : link

JJ McCarthy rising helps the Giants no matter what they decide to do:

They get one of the top 4 QBs
The return on a trade down is better
The cost to trade up is less
A better player drops to 6 if he goes Top 5.
RE: JJ  
BleedBlue46 : 2/19/2024 10:26 am : link
In comment 16402373 Hilary said:
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Very good at throwing the ball on a line has trouble with a ball that needs to be arched over the defenders.


Yes, the one weakness I notice on film is on some touch throws and I think it's easily correctable by changing his shoulder slant angle. Sometimes he has too flat of a shoulder slant angle on those touch throws.

I think he would be a great prospect for Dabs to coach up, he has the potential to be best in the class truly elite superbowl winning ceiling (think a more athletic version of Aaron Rodgers without the head case) and I think he has a safe floor of say a better version of Daniel Jones.
RE: The Michigan OL is Elite  
BleedBlue46 : 2/19/2024 10:27 am : link
In comment 16402368 varco said:
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It's what an OL should be. I think you could put a variety of QB's behind that line and they would look good. Putting Mccarthy behind the Giant's OL would be shocking to him.


He also had the best stats of any qb in the draft under pressure, he has a great pocket presence with the athleticism to escape and the ability to throw very well on the run.
RE: The Michigan OL is Elite  
SomeFan : 2/19/2024 10:33 am : link
In comment 16402368 varco said:
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It's what an OL should be. I think you could put a variety of QB's behind that line and they would look good. Putting Mccarthy behind the Giant's OL would be shocking to him.
That is not a reason to not draft him if otherwise he is thought of as a top 10 talent.
He looks very average  
George from PA : 2/19/2024 10:37 am : link
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I Didn't Mean to Knock Mccarthy but...  
varco : 2/19/2024 10:40 am : link
Great stats under late pressure after the receivers open on their routes is one thing. With an OL line as bad as the Giants were, the receivers were not into their routes and the DL would be coming in untouched, hanging all over the QB and in his face.

I don't doubt Mccarthy's ability but we need to seriously shore up the line. Otherwise we rinse and repeat what we have seen in recent years.

Both the QB and line need to be upgraded, pronto, and hopefully at the same time.
RE: The Michigan OL is Elite  
blueblood : 2/19/2024 10:41 am : link
In comment 16402368 varco said:
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It's what an OL should be. I think you could put a variety of QB's behind that line and they would look good. Putting Mccarthy behind the Giant's OL would be shocking to him.


So you expect them to keep the same crappy OL? Kind of a weird comment.
RE: I Didn't Mean to Knock Mccarthy but...  
BleedBlue46 : 2/19/2024 10:45 am : link
In comment 16402530 varco said:
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Great stats under late pressure after the receivers open on their routes is one thing. With an OL line as bad as the Giants were, the receivers were not into their routes and the DL would be coming in untouched, hanging all over the QB and in his face.

I don't doubt Mccarthy's ability but we need to seriously shore up the line. Otherwise we rinse and repeat what we have seen in recent years.

Both the QB and line need to be upgraded, pronto, and hopefully at the same time.


Absolutely, I'd like to see us pickup a young uprising stud OL like Onwenu and draft a guy like Graham Barton or Cooper Beebe or Christian Haynes in rd 2 along with a wr like Xavier Leggette or Troy Franklin in rd 2. Then QB at 4-6 (I'd like Daniels or McCarthy).
McCarthy is going to go higher than people think  
blueblood : 2/19/2024 10:49 am : link
NFL will evaluate him completely different than fans will. QBs specially affected by private workouts with teams as well as sitting down with QB on the whiteboard.

How quickly they can understand, retain and process info is a HUGE factor for QBs, and thats something fans never really get, and it really does affect QBs POST the college season.
RE: He looks very average  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 2/19/2024 10:51 am : link
In comment 16402529 George from PA said:
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He really does
If there is a rise in JJ's stock  
Manhattan : 2/19/2024 11:02 am : link
it can be nothing but good for the Giants. Maybe they like JJ, or maybe it will cause Maye or Daniels to slip to #6.
no offense to the youtubers but this one from urban meyer is better  
Eric on Li : 2/19/2024 11:12 am : link
Mccarthy's post-season obviously had a big impact on his season but this win vs OSU (basically for his 2nd straight b1g title) had some signature plays from jjm that were the difference. you can tell from a real coach how there are little things he does that coaches appreciate.
Urban Meyer Breaks Down JJ McCarthy Film: 'I'm Not Sure I've Ever Seen A Ball Like This' - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/19/2024 11:23 am : link
The problem with evaluating QBs is their success or failure will be largely determined by things we can't see or know.

Tom Brady and Joe Montana were not impressive physical specimens.

It's what they had upstairs that made them special.

I hate to tell you, but this is a crapshoot.
RE: ...  
bw in dc : 2/19/2024 11:28 am : link
In comment 16402580 Eric from BBI said:
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The problem with evaluating QBs is their success or failure will be largely determined by things we can't see or know.

Tom Brady and Joe Montana were not impressive physical specimens.

It's what they had upstairs that made them special.

I hate to tell you, but this is a crapshoot.


Mostly agree. Measuring the decision making in college and trying to determine if that will convey to the NFL is impossible.

But physical skills do convey. If a guy has a big arm and demonstrates the ability to throw most of the route tree, especially outside the hashes, that will work in the NFL.
RE: no offense to the youtubers but this one from urban meyer is better  
BleedBlue46 : 2/19/2024 11:29 am : link
In comment 16402570 Eric on Li said:
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Mccarthy's post-season obviously had a big impact on his season but this win vs OSU (basically for his 2nd straight b1g title) had some signature plays from jjm that were the difference. you can tell from a real coach how there are little things he does that coaches appreciate. Urban Meyer Breaks Down JJ McCarthy Film: 'I'm Not Sure I've Ever Seen A Ball Like This' - ( New Window )


I liked that in depth break down a lot, would be amazing to have 20 minutes of this.
RE: ...  
Eric on Li : 2/19/2024 11:32 am : link
In comment 16402580 Eric from BBI said:
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The problem with evaluating QBs is their success or failure will be largely determined by things we can't see or know.

Tom Brady and Joe Montana were not impressive physical specimens.

It's what they had upstairs that made them special.

I hate to tell you, but this is a crapshoot.


totally agree - that's why i put a lot of stock into that meyer video back in november. you can tell from the way he spoke about him then that he does things coaches appreciate (and the jax experience aside, meyer was a great coach).

harbough ran an offense that does more pro-style things than most others and while that tempered jjm's stats i think it gave jjm the chance to show that he has the ability to do little pro style things that coaches know lead to wins.

fans like seeing the greatest show on turf throws downfield to guys like odunze/nabers moss'ing college dbs who are going pro in something other than football but in the nfl we know things usually arent that easy.
RE: ...  
BleedBlue46 : 2/19/2024 11:32 am : link
In comment 16402580 Eric from BBI said:
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The problem with evaluating QBs is their success or failure will be largely determined by things we can't see or know.

Tom Brady and Joe Montana were not impressive physical specimens.

It's what they had upstairs that made them special.

I hate to tell you, but this is a crapshoot.


I completely agree and that's part of the fun. Part of the reason I like Mccarthy's potential a lot is because I get a feel that he could be elite in the mental processing aspects of the game, but it's just a feel and there really isn't any quantifiable way to predict how a college QB's mind will adapt to the NFL game. Salient point you make about how this inability to project the mental aspects is a big part of what makes the draft such a crapshoot especially for QBs.
Please stop with the OL needs to be elite nonsense  
averagejoe : 2/19/2024 11:35 am : link
The QB needs to be elite. Nobody gets all day to throw in the NFL. That is what separates good QB's from bad QB's. Making good quick decisions and seeing the field . Mahomes would still be elite with Giants OL. Jones would still be a failure behind KC line . This is why so many great QB prospects do not succeed . It's always a gamble . If Daboll likes him Giants take McCarthy at six. No question .
RE: Please stop with the OL needs to be elite nonsense  
Angel Eyes : 2/19/2024 11:36 am : link
In comment 16402593 averagejoe said:
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Nobody gets all day to throw in the NFL.
Unless you're playing against the Giants.
In those highlights he looks like he’s scrambling  
Simms11 : 2/19/2024 11:48 am : link
out of the pocket quite a bit. He does make decent throws on the run however. Would like to see him stay in the pocket and step up into a throw?! He does show leadership and appears to be a high energy guy, which are also nice intangibles. He’s won consistently and been successful at a high level of college football. I like what I’ve seen and think he could be a guy drafted in the first. Let’s see how the combine and pro days help him.
RE: He looks very average  
charlito : 2/19/2024 12:07 pm : link
In comment 16402529 George from PA said:
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RE: RE: Please stop with the OL needs to be elite nonsense  
averagejoe : 2/19/2024 12:12 pm : link
In comment 16402594 Angel Eyes said:
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Nobody gets all day to throw in the NFL.

Unless you're playing against the Giants.


Good point...lol
RE: Daniel Jones is not a fair comp, this kid is legit.  
Blue Dog : 2/19/2024 12:13 pm : link
Haven't heard a comp yet that seems to make sense. Curious if some can come up with something, or is he just got hit own profile?
RE: RE: ...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/19/2024 12:13 pm : link
In comment 16402584 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16402580 Eric from BBI said:


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The problem with evaluating QBs is their success or failure will be largely determined by things we can't see or know.

Tom Brady and Joe Montana were not impressive physical specimens.

It's what they had upstairs that made them special.

I hate to tell you, but this is a crapshoot.



Mostly agree. Measuring the decision making in college and trying to determine if that will convey to the NFL is impossible.

But physical skills do convey. If a guy has a big arm and demonstrates the ability to throw most of the route tree, especially outside the hashes, that will work in the NFL.


Our of pure coincidence, I just came up from my basement. I'm cleaning out old boxes. In one of the boxes are old Joel Buchsbaum and Ourlads guides from the 1980s and 1990s. First one I picked up had Heath Shuler on the cover. Almost every single one of them had a failed QB on the cover.

It's a complete crapshoot.
the most telling draft cover?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/19/2024 12:14 pm : link
Ryan Leaf on one side and Peyton Manning on the other.
Quarterback Commandments — Bill Parcells  
Archer : 2/19/2024 12:21 pm : link
When evaluating a QB here are traits that Parcells believes are necessary to be a great QB.

Quarterback Commandments — Bill Parcells
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Press and TV (sports media), agents or advisors, family, relatives, wives, fans, etc. — should be ignored on football matters. They do not know what’s happening here.
Parcells is reminding his quarterback that professional football players should only take coaching on football from professional football coaches.

We mustn’t let outside voices interfere with our craft/profession. Parcells is not saying to ignore your circle regarding financial, emotional, or mental matters — he is saying that their opinion on football happenings does not hold weight in the football arena.

2. Don’t forget to have fun, but don’t be the class clown. Clowns and leaders don’t mix, clowns can’t run a huddle.

BARS BARS BARS — this is my favorite. There is a fine line between having fun and a clown show. Football is a child’s game and professional football is grown men playing for livelihood and legacy. The margin for error is so small — it goes against the goals of the team if the QB is head of the clown committee. ◦ Again, Bill Parcells understands the context outside of football. Having fun is allowed in football but being a clown is to never reach your ultimate goals. Leaders must hold themselves to a higher standard.

3. A quarterback throws with his legs more than his arms. Squat and run, fat quarterbacks cannot avoid the pass rush.

Fat quarterbacks can’t avoid the pass rush! Bill is reminding his QB to stay in tip-top shape, as the pass rushers hunting him down are some of the most athletic beasts known to humankind!
The throwing motion does not come from the arm directly, you must utilize your lower body and core to create a repeatable and consistently powerful throwing motion in multiple positions.
Take the whole system into consideration. Even in our day-to-day lives, investigate how to input the best variables while decreasing the worst inputs. How can you become more efficient in your operations?

4. Know your job cold, as this is not a game without errors. Keep your errors to a minimum — STUDY!

A great way to win football games is to minimize your mistakes. The best QBs are known not only for their production but also for their adherence to this principle. ◦ Study the “playbook” relentlessly — when the game comes, break the huddle with the utmost confidence in your preparation.
As we proceed on our journey, we must minimize mistakes and learn from the mistakes we make.

5. Know your players/teammates. Who’s fast, who can catch, who needs encouragement? Be precise. Know your team and know your opponent.

As great as the QB might be, he is nothing without his teammates and coaches. A leader knows his team, a hall-of-fame leader knows his team and their tendencies, emotions, and how to inspire and motivate each of his teammates.
Know the people around you and make sure they know you. At times of dependence, we can lift others up with our specific knowledge.

6. Be the same guy every day. In condition — preparing to lead and studying your plan. A coach cannot prepare you for every play/situation. Prepare yourself and remember, impulse decisions usually equal mistakes.

Being the same person allows for trust and camaraderie to grow among teammates. Take responsibility for your own preparation and leadership.
Avoid situations that may cause you to lose focus on the mission. For example, it would not serve the QB well to go out late-night partying the night before a big-time game.

7. Throwing the ball away is a good play. Sacks,
interceptions, and fumbles are bad plays. Protect our team from bad plays.

Sometimes, the best thing we can do is simply call it a day. Next play mentality works in everyday life. Eliminating costly mistakes will improve your chances of being successful in the long run.
Even though we believe in our ability to make something out of nothing, we must resist the temptation to overstride our ability.

8. You must learn to manage the game. Personnel, play calls, motions, ball handling, proper reads of the defense, accurate throws, play fakes. Clock, Clock, Clock — never lose track of the clock!

Manage the game. Control the Controllables. Doing the basics right will lead to success and overall enjoyment of the craft. Ego can override this principle if we let it — must maintain focus on the mission at hand.

9. Passing stats and TDs are not how you are going to be judged. Your job is to get the team into the endzone. That is how you will be judged.

Always remember the mission. There are a lot of shiny rewards that come with stats and recognition, but the best recognition is always winning.

10. You must be the hand that steers the ship when all around is chaos. If you have a panic button, so will everyone else. Our ship cannot have panic buttons.

The best leaders maintain composure during the storm. A leader’s main job is to calm the team and regain clarity and focus.
Work on mindfulness techniques to maintain your cool — in your profession but also in your private life. Think and act with the full picture and avoid panic.

11. Do not be a celebrity quarterback. We do not need any of those, we need battlefield commanders who are willing to fight it out every day, every week, every season — and lead their team to win after win.

Being focused on the wrong things will lead to a life full of mistakes and misery. If you get paid to lead your team to wins, keep doing that. The ego always wants more credit, we must find techniques to ensure we do not let the negative aspects of ego impact us.
This list of principles for quarterback success lays down an excellent foundation for those of us trying to lead and strive for higher levels.
Now I know what it's like  
DonQuixote : 2/19/2024 12:22 pm : link
if Barry White did a draft hype video...
Michigan's OL was not elite  
ElitoCanton : 2/19/2024 12:29 pm : link
their RT was pathetic in pass protection for most of the season. Good in run blocking.
RE: RE: Daniel Jones is not a fair comp, this kid is legit.  
BleedBlue46 : 2/19/2024 12:49 pm : link
In comment 16402612 Blue Dog said:
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Haven't heard a comp yet that seems to make sense. Curious if some can come up with something, or is he just got hit own profile?


I think his ceiling is a more athletic, more mentally sound and cutch version of Aaron Rodgers. I think his floor is a more athletic version of Daniel Jones.
I am loving McCarthy’s rise  
Chris684 : 2/19/2024 12:56 pm : link
It really helps us. We may have a QB there at 6. It’s possible Harrison Jr. falls in our laps if 4 QBs go and perhaps Alt or Bowers to LAC.
He is intriguing  
Rjanyg : 2/19/2024 1:42 pm : link
I still like Maye more. I do think they need to get a QB this year.
Comes down to ability to go through projections  
widmerseyebrow : 2/19/2024 1:52 pm : link
I wonder when it will be standard practice to put AR/VR headsets on these guys to see how they visually move through multiple progressions and throw to the right guy vs a computer defense.

Even a gopro cam on a headband in a 7 on 7 would be helpful.
RE: RE: Daniel Jones is not a fair comp, this kid is legit.  
SirLoinOfBeef : 2/19/2024 2:20 pm : link
In comment 16402612 Blue Dog said:
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Haven't heard a comp yet that seems to make sense. Curious if some can come up with something, or is he just got hit own profile?


I heard draft folks say Alex Smith.

RE: Now I know what it's like  
BleedBlue46 : 2/19/2024 2:23 pm : link
In comment 16402620 DonQuixote said:
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if Barry White did a draft hype video...


I know haha that guy is classic with that Barry White voice
RE: RE: RE: Daniel Jones is not a fair comp, this kid is legit.  
BleedBlue46 : 2/19/2024 2:26 pm : link
In comment 16402684 SirLoinOfBeef said:
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Haven't heard a comp yet that seems to make sense. Curious if some can come up with something, or is he just got hit own profile?



I heard draft folks say Alex Smith.


I could see Alex Smith but with his scrambling ability and athleticism and elite ability to throw on the run it makes him a lot different than Alex Smith. His ability to move the pocket and throw on the run so well along with football iq and other attributes makes me think of a more mentally sound and athletic Aaron Rodgers for his ceiling. I would prefer him over Maye myself, but I'd be ok with Maye if JJ took his spot in the top 3 which wouldn't surprise me. I could see the Pats surprising everyone and taking JJ McCarthy.
I see some Matt Ryan in his game actually…..  
Simms11 : 2/19/2024 2:45 pm : link
and if that’s his ceiling, I’d say he’d be worth a draft pick in top of draft.
Loved the breakdown of McC when he rolls to his left  
cosmicj : 2/19/2024 4:15 pm : link
Make sure to watch the TD pass right after the 14:00 minute mark in the YouTube video. Simply an amazing pass.
GPT at it again. Was reading an article about McCarthy when I  
cosmicj : 2/19/2024 4:17 pm : link
ran into this delight:

"McCarthy's commitment to both his education and athletics is evident from his time at Harvard University. He graduated from Harvard in 2010 with a degree in economics.”

The article also has McC transferring to Iowa in 2022. LOL.

This poast was written by a certified human.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Daniel Jones is not a fair comp, this kid is legit.  
Ivan15 : 2/19/2024 5:52 pm : link
In comment 16402689 BleedBlue46 said:
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Haven't heard a comp yet that seems to make sense. Curious if some can come up with something, or is he just got hit own profile?



I heard draft folks say Alex Smith.




I could see Alex Smith but with his scrambling ability and athleticism and elite ability to throw on the run it makes him a lot different than Alex Smith. His ability to move the pocket and throw on the run so well along with football iq and other attributes makes me think of a more mentally sound and athletic Aaron Rodgers for his ceiling. I would prefer him over Maye myself, but I'd be ok with Maye if JJ took his spot in the top 3 which wouldn't surprise me. I could see the Pats surprising everyone and taking JJ McCarthy.
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Maybe Alex Smith with an arm that can drive the ball through the wind. Smith’s downfall.
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