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Daniel Jeremiah Mock Draft 2.0

Big Rick in FL : 2/20/2024 11:20 am
I'm sure there will be a lot of fans of this mock draft. I know I would be pumped if this is how things played out. Here's the top 5

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1. CHI - Caleb Williams QB USC
2. WAS - Drake Maye QB UNC
3. NE - Marvin Harrison Jr WR Ohio State
4. ARI - Malik Nabers WR LSU
5. LAC - Joe Alt OT Notre Dame

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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/20/2024 11:23 am : link
🙏🙏🙏.

That said, I don’t see Pats passing on a QB.
I was getting excited  
barens : 2/20/2024 11:26 am : link
About the prospect of drafting Nabers, and that is now seeming out of reach. Of course anything can happen, and Daniel’s would be exciting.
The good news is that JJ is going to be solidified  
Chris684 : 2/20/2024 11:26 am : link
as a top 10 pick, if he's not already.

There is going to be a QB with a very high grade there for us at 6.
i know this is unpopular but i think id go JJM over Daniels  
Eric on Li : 2/20/2024 11:27 am : link
and to put a finer point on it, I want 1 of the junior entries. I'd rather give Daboll a player to develop that's more moldable than a 6 year college player.
RE: …  
Section331 : 2/20/2024 11:28 am : link
In comment 16403265 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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🙏🙏🙏.

That said, I don’t see Pats passing on a QB.


I would agree, although there have been rumblings about NE trying to get a vet. I think that is foolish given their draft position in a historically good QB class.
Maybe with BB gone and the Pats drafting their best  
Section331 : 2/20/2024 11:29 am : link
WR since Randy Moss, maybe Brady comes back for one more run! 😄
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Big Rick in FL : 2/20/2024 11:35 am : link
In comment 16403275 Section331 said:
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🙏🙏🙏.

That said, I don’t see Pats passing on a QB.



I would agree, although there have been rumblings about NE trying to get a vet. I think that is foolish given their draft position in a historically good QB class.


Unless they don't love QB3. Everyone has been assuming they're going to take a QB simply to take a QB, but it's possible they don't like QB3 and MHJr is ranked much higher.
So he has JJM going in top 10 - at number 8  
ZogZerg : 2/20/2024 11:36 am : link
to Atlanta.

4 QBs in top 8.
Interesting.
If it played out that way at the top  
Gruber : 2/20/2024 11:40 am : link
then I'm pretty sure there will be trading offers coming in to move up to pick 3, 4, or 5 for Daniels.
He isn't just going to fall into our laps at #6.
I've said it before  
Manhattan : 2/20/2024 11:45 am : link
if you game it out. CHI and WAS are near certainties to draft a QB. They have choices. Chicago has the pick of the field. Washington has a choice between two. But New England will be stuck with one choice at QB3 - probably Daniels. They have to love Daniels. They don't get a choice. So will they be content with QB3? What if they don't like QB3 nearly as much? When faced with a choice between the QB leftovers or MHJ, who some believe is the second coming of Calvin Johnson, they may opt to pick the WR and get the QB later. I still think NE takes QB3, but there is a real chance they don't -- maybe 30%. If that happens it opens the door for the Giants to grab Daniels.
RE: If it played out that way at the top  
Manhattan : 2/20/2024 11:46 am : link
In comment 16403300 Gruber said:
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then I'm pretty sure there will be trading offers coming in to move up to pick 3, 4, or 5 for Daniels.
He isn't just going to fall into our laps at #6.


He might. He has some serious concerns.
RE: The good news is that JJ is going to be solidified  
KDavies : 2/20/2024 11:48 am : link
In comment 16403272 Chris684 said:
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as a top 10 pick, if he's not already.

There is going to be a QB with a very high grade there for us at 6.


Yep, most likely. One of 4 QBs, Harrison, or BPA of the rest if the prior 5 are gone worst case: so top OL (i hope not), top defensive player, 2nd best WR
JJ McCarthy  
Big Rick in FL : 2/20/2024 11:48 am : link
Already top 8. With the Combine, Pro Days, team visits/interviews it wouldn't shock me at all if JJ ends up being QB2.
There's a few scenarios in which Maye or Daniels could slide  
BleedBlue46 : 2/20/2024 11:48 am : link
Within reach:

1. Chi builds around Fields most likely trading with Washington to get a haul of picks and MHJ

2. Patriots sign Kirk Cousins (possible if Kraft wants to win asap)

3. JJ McCarthy goes in the top 3 QBs. I could see the Patriots surprising everyone with a move like this.

4. NFL is less high on Maye or Daniels than projected to be.

I see those as the only ways in which Maye or Daniels slides to 4-6. Maybe a 25-30% chance? Word is Chicago is going to make a decision on whether or not to accept trade offers for Fields sooner than later. Obviously, they could keep Fields and draft QB but if they keep Fields I think it's more likely they will build around him. Free agency will be telling as well, does Kirk Cousins resign in Minnesota or where does he go?

Very pivotal draft we have here.
I could see teams being scared of Daniels size  
Sean : 2/20/2024 11:49 am : link
If he's falling though, expect the Raiders to try and trade up. Pierce recruited and coached him.
"In this scenario the Patriots go the veteran route to fill the need"  
BillT : 2/20/2024 11:50 am : link
What veteran route? They're passing on a top QB in the draft for who exactly. This is BS. Name names or GTFO.
RE: JJ McCarthy  
BleedBlue46 : 2/20/2024 11:51 am : link
In comment 16403320 Big Rick in FL said:
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Already top 8. With the Combine, Pro Days, team visits/interviews it wouldn't shock me at all if JJ ends up being QB2.


If he lights up the combine with a 95+ ras score, 40 in 4.4s, sub 7 second 3 cone, up near top velocity, throws impeccably and interviews perfectly I could see it. I'd be good with any of the top 4 QBs, it's a crapshoot like Eric says so hopefully we just get lucky on one of the 4.
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BleedBlue46 : 2/20/2024 11:51 am : link
In comment 16403326 BillT said:
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What veteran route? They're passing on a top QB in the draft for who exactly. This is BS. Name names or GTFO.


I think Cousins?
Can Jeremiah...  
bw in dc : 2/20/2024 11:52 am : link
be our GM?

RE: I could see teams being scared of Daniels size  
BleedBlue46 : 2/20/2024 11:53 am : link
In comment 16403323 Sean said:
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If he's falling though, expect the Raiders to try and trade up. Pierce recruited and coached him.


I could see teams being scared of Daniels size, one year wonder, and played with 2 first round picks a future high pick at TE with a solid o line so you don't see a lot of NFL window throws on his tape. There are definitely ways in which he could slide, I say this with hope and optimism because I absolutely love his game.
RE: If it played out that way at the top  
bw in dc : 2/20/2024 11:56 am : link
In comment 16403300 Gruber said:
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then I'm pretty sure there will be trading offers coming in to move up to pick 3, 4, or 5 for Daniels.
He isn't just going to fall into our laps at #6.


Good point. I wouldn't be surprised if Team Caleb tries to manipulate their way out of Chicago. That organization is on stilts. I could see Daniels/Maye going to the Bears because they may be more willing to sign. And those are excellent consolation prizes...
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Manhattan : 2/20/2024 11:58 am : link
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then I'm pretty sure there will be trading offers coming in to move up to pick 3, 4, or 5 for Daniels.
He isn't just going to fall into our laps at #6.



Good point. I wouldn't be surprised if Team Caleb tries to manipulate their way out of Chicago. That organization is on stilts. I could see Daniels/Maye going to the Bears because they may be more willing to sign. And those are excellent consolation prizes...


No way. Williams has no leverage. And it looks like between CHI, WAS and NE, the Bears are the best landing spot.
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BleedBlue46 : 2/20/2024 12:02 pm : link
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then I'm pretty sure there will be trading offers coming in to move up to pick 3, 4, or 5 for Daniels.
He isn't just going to fall into our laps at #6.



Good point. I wouldn't be surprised if Team Caleb tries to manipulate their way out of Chicago. That organization is on stilts. I could see Daniels/Maye going to the Bears because they may be more willing to sign. And those are excellent consolation prizes...



No way. Williams has no leverage. And it looks like between CHI, WAS and NE, the Bears are the best landing spot.


The Bears roster is years ahead of ours currently, I don't see that happening unless he is scared of playing in the elements. Chicago is in the playoff hunt with tons of cap room.
10 OL selected in first round  
Rick in Dallas : 2/20/2024 12:03 pm : link
One of the best years in recent memory for OL prospects.
I was hoping Frazier would be available in second round for Giants but he is really rising fast .
Combine is going to be so interesting for McCarthy.
I must admit I didn’t watch any LSU games this year. Not a fan of Kelly.
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The_Boss : 2/20/2024 12:08 pm : link
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then I'm pretty sure there will be trading offers coming in to move up to pick 3, 4, or 5 for Daniels.
He isn't just going to fall into our laps at #6.



Good point. I wouldn't be surprised if Team Caleb tries to manipulate their way out of Chicago. That organization is on stilts. I could see Daniels/Maye going to the Bears because they may be more willing to sign. And those are excellent consolation prizes...



No way. Williams has no leverage. And it looks like between CHI, WAS and NE, the Bears are the best landing spot.



The Bears roster is years ahead of ours currently, I don't see that happening unless he is scared of playing in the elements. Chicago is in the playoff hunt with tons of cap room.


Very scary thought here. The bears roster is actually better. After the draft, assuming the redskins take Maye, could the NYG really have the worst roster in the NFC? Or 2nd worst to Arizona?
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Manhattan : 2/20/2024 12:09 pm : link
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then I'm pretty sure there will be trading offers coming in to move up to pick 3, 4, or 5 for Daniels.
He isn't just going to fall into our laps at #6.



Good point. I wouldn't be surprised if Team Caleb tries to manipulate their way out of Chicago. That organization is on stilts. I could see Daniels/Maye going to the Bears because they may be more willing to sign. And those are excellent consolation prizes...



No way. Williams has no leverage. And it looks like between CHI, WAS and NE, the Bears are the best landing spot.



The Bears roster is years ahead of ours currently, I don't see that happening unless he is scared of playing in the elements. Chicago is in the playoff hunt with tons of cap room.



Very scary thought here. The bears roster is actually better. After the draft, assuming the redskins take Maye, could the NYG really have the worst roster in the NFC? Or 2nd worst to Arizona?


Arizona is better than the Giants. They have a QB, we don't.
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BleedBlue46 : 2/20/2024 12:10 pm : link
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then I'm pretty sure there will be trading offers coming in to move up to pick 3, 4, or 5 for Daniels.
He isn't just going to fall into our laps at #6.



Good point. I wouldn't be surprised if Team Caleb tries to manipulate their way out of Chicago. That organization is on stilts. I could see Daniels/Maye going to the Bears because they may be more willing to sign. And those are excellent consolation prizes...



No way. Williams has no leverage. And it looks like between CHI, WAS and NE, the Bears are the best landing spot.



The Bears roster is years ahead of ours currently, I don't see that happening unless he is scared of playing in the elements. Chicago is in the playoff hunt with tons of cap room.



Very scary thought here. The bears roster is actually better. After the draft, assuming the redskins take Maye, could the NYG really have the worst roster in the NFC? Or 2nd worst to Arizona?


Panthers, Giants and Cardinals, but if we hit on qb finally it all turn around imo
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Section331 : 2/20/2024 12:11 pm : link
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then I'm pretty sure there will be trading offers coming in to move up to pick 3, 4, or 5 for Daniels.
He isn't just going to fall into our laps at #6.



Good point. I wouldn't be surprised if Team Caleb tries to manipulate their way out of Chicago. That organization is on stilts. I could see Daniels/Maye going to the Bears because they may be more willing to sign. And those are excellent consolation prizes...



No way. Williams has no leverage. And it looks like between CHI, WAS and NE, the Bears are the best landing spot.



The Bears roster is years ahead of ours currently, I don't see that happening unless he is scared of playing in the elements. Chicago is in the playoff hunt with tons of cap room.



Very scary thought here. The bears roster is actually better. After the draft, assuming the redskins take Maye, could the NYG really have the worst roster in the NFC? Or 2nd worst to Arizona?


Carolina would be pretty hard to top.
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The_Boss : 2/20/2024 12:18 pm : link
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then I'm pretty sure there will be trading offers coming in to move up to pick 3, 4, or 5 for Daniels.
He isn't just going to fall into our laps at #6.



Good point. I wouldn't be surprised if Team Caleb tries to manipulate their way out of Chicago. That organization is on stilts. I could see Daniels/Maye going to the Bears because they may be more willing to sign. And those are excellent consolation prizes...



No way. Williams has no leverage. And it looks like between CHI, WAS and NE, the Bears are the best landing spot.



The Bears roster is years ahead of ours currently, I don't see that happening unless he is scared of playing in the elements. Chicago is in the playoff hunt with tons of cap room.



Very scary thought here. The bears roster is actually better. After the draft, assuming the redskins take Maye, could the NYG really have the worst roster in the NFC? Or 2nd worst to Arizona?



Carolina would be pretty hard to top.


Hard to argue Carolina. That being said, this is likely without a doubt one of the 3-5 worst rosters in the league and will likely continue to be that. Very scary thinking about how far away we are. It’s one thing to be a young team. The Packers are a young team, the youngest in the league actually. But they’re very good. We are young and bad..
I think if this is truly JS's call  
56goat : 2/20/2024 12:20 pm : link
and he has an opportunity to take a QB he thinks ticks all the boxes for him, he will. I also don't think he will force a QB pick if the right person isn't there or is in a spot he can't get to, within reason.
There’s more and more smoke  
ajr2456 : 2/20/2024 12:30 pm : link
That suggest the Pats may not end up taking a QB
Daniels  
ajr2456 : 2/20/2024 12:35 pm : link
Is really good at a throw that was a Daboll staple in Buffalo, and one Wandale would be very good at.
Daniels Dig - ( New Window )
RE: There’s more and more smoke  
Sean : 2/20/2024 12:36 pm : link
In comment 16403378 ajr2456 said:
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That suggest the Pats may not end up taking a QB

Then get the trade down up to 3 asap. Remove any doubt of another team jumping NYG.
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ajr2456 : 2/20/2024 12:41 pm : link
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That suggest the Pats may not end up taking a QB


Then get the trade down up to 3 asap. Remove any doubt of another team jumping NYG.


If they want Maye or Daniels they will have to trade up I’d imagine. I’ve heard New England isn’t high on Maye or Daniels but I take the source with a grain of salt because of their conflict of interest
Not who I would pick  
Lines of Scrimmage : 2/20/2024 12:41 pm : link
but if that is the way it goes so be it.

Needs to run a lot to make a impact imv. I prefer a QB who excels from the pocket but I can see where BD would like his style.
RE: …  
UConn4523 : 2/20/2024 12:48 pm : link
In comment 16403265 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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🙏🙏🙏.

That said, I don’t see Pats passing on a QB.


I don’t either but not everyone is going to have these QBs ranked 1/2/3. They may not like Daniels, I’m sure a bunch of teams won’t like QBs 2-5 (the first round guys) for various reasons.
RE: Not who I would pick  
UberAlias : 2/20/2024 12:51 pm : link
In comment 16403396 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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but if that is the way it goes so be it.

Needs to run a lot to make a impact imv. I prefer a QB who excels from the pocket but I can see where BD would like his style.
I hear ya. I'm not on that particular band wagon.
People are really  
JayBinQueens : 2/20/2024 12:53 pm : link
going to be pissed when Gmen take McCarthy
....  
ryanmkeane : 2/20/2024 1:15 pm : link
And people are going to be equally annoyed if/when Daniels is on the board at 6 and the Giants pass on him.
RE: People are really  
The_Boss : 2/20/2024 1:15 pm : link
In comment 16403413 JayBinQueens said:
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going to be pissed when Gmen take McCarthy


Maybe, but I doubt more pissed than when Dave took Jones…
RE: ....  
ajr2456 : 2/20/2024 1:21 pm : link
In comment 16403438 ryanmkeane said:
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And people are going to be equally annoyed if/when Daniels is on the board at 6 and the Giants pass on him.


Because it would be a disaster of a decision.
Ryan  
Sean : 2/20/2024 1:22 pm : link
Weren't you vocal against drafting Jones? I recall you preferring Haskins.
RE: ....  
ThomasG : 2/20/2024 1:48 pm : link
In comment 16403438 ryanmkeane said:
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And people are going to be equally annoyed if/when Daniels is on the board at 6 and the Giants pass on him.


Annoyed...try apoplectic.

The NYG have the worst QB Unit in the league, yet expensive, injured and uncertain for the start of the 2024 season.

Passing on a top prospect like Jayden Daniels in the situation this team is in at the QB position would be akin to saying we have a contagious mental disease running through the building at 1925 NY Giants Drive.
RE: People are really  
bw in dc : 2/20/2024 1:53 pm : link
In comment 16403413 JayBinQueens said:
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going to be pissed when Gmen take McCarthy


I wouldn't like it, especially at #6. But then it's up to Daboll.

Since McCarthy played under Harbaugh, and apparently is this strong leader with a good football mind, he should play in 2024. And hopefully start.
Why would some be scared of Daniels size but not McCarthy?  
robbieballs2003 : 2/20/2024 1:53 pm : link
Daniels
23 years old, his birthday just passed
6'4"
210

McCarthy
21, birthday just passed
6'3"
202

I don't get the size concerns with Daniels but nobody brings them up with McCarthy. And don't tell me McCarthy is 2 years younger so he can add weight. It isn't about weight. As has been pointed out by our Giants, it is about bone to muscle ratio. They both have small frames. Adding weight to small frames is more of an issue than being lighter.
RE: There’s more and more smoke  
BleedBlue46 : 2/20/2024 1:56 pm : link
In comment 16403378 ajr2456 said:
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That suggest the Pats may not end up taking a QB


They may really like the idea of MHJ+Nix or Pennix, there is merit to that idea
RE: Why would some be scared of Daniels size but not McCarthy?  
BleedBlue46 : 2/20/2024 1:58 pm : link
In comment 16403476 robbieballs2003 said:
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Daniels
23 years old, his birthday just passed
6'4"
210

McCarthy
21, birthday just passed
6'3"
202

I don't get the size concerns with Daniels but nobody brings them up with McCarthy. And don't tell me McCarthy is 2 years younger so he can add weight. It isn't about weight. As has been pointed out by our Giants, it is about bone to muscle ratio. They both have small frames. Adding weight to small frames is more of an issue than being lighter.


I think Michigan doesn't embelish weight and height like LSU does. And age definitely is a factor, JJ was 6'3 190 as a recruit while Daniels was 6'3 175 as a recruit for instance.
RE: RE: Why would some be scared of Daniels size but not McCarthy?  
robbieballs2003 : 2/20/2024 2:01 pm : link
In comment 16403486 BleedBlue46 said:
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Daniels
23 years old, his birthday just passed
6'4"
210

McCarthy
21, birthday just passed
6'3"
202

I don't get the size concerns with Daniels but nobody brings them up with McCarthy. And don't tell me McCarthy is 2 years younger so he can add weight. It isn't about weight. As has been pointed out by our Giants, it is about bone to muscle ratio. They both have small frames. Adding weight to small frames is more of an issue than being lighter.



I think Michigan doesn't embelish weight and height like LSU does. And age definitely is a factor, JJ was 6'3 190 as a recruit while Daniels was 6'3 175 as a recruit for instance.


No matter how you try to slice it, they are both thin and both should be a concern. Choosing one over the other shows bias.
RE: i know this is unpopular but i think id go JJM over Daniels  
Tuckrule : 2/20/2024 2:12 pm : link
In comment 16403273 Eric on Li said:
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and to put a finer point on it, I want 1 of the junior entries. I'd rather give Daboll a player to develop that's more moldable than a 6 year college player.


I want no part of Daniel’s. He will not be a good pro. He’s got a great offensive line. Throwing to nabers and Thomas and hes been in college as long as penix. No thank you. Give me Maye or McCarthy. I’d love rattler round 3 I think he has the tools to work with and he’s sneaky athletic. Plus arm talent for sure
RE: RE: RE: Why would some be scared of Daniels size but not McCarthy?  
BleedBlue46 : 2/20/2024 2:12 pm : link
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Daniels
23 years old, his birthday just passed
6'4"
210

McCarthy
21, birthday just passed
6'3"
202

I don't get the size concerns with Daniels but nobody brings them up with McCarthy. And don't tell me McCarthy is 2 years younger so he can add weight. It isn't about weight. As has been pointed out by our Giants, it is about bone to muscle ratio. They both have small frames. Adding weight to small frames is more of an issue than being lighter.



I think Michigan doesn't embelish weight and height like LSU does. And age definitely is a factor, JJ was 6'3 190 as a recruit while Daniels was 6'3 175 as a recruit for instance.



No matter how you try to slice it, they are both thin and both should be a concern. Choosing one over the other shows bias.


Well Daniels is my top ranked QB personally but i think JJ's weight is less of a concern than Daniels. I think Daniels will have to work a lot harder to maintain a Weight close to 225 than JJ would. And that isn't out of a bias for JJ, because Daniels has been my favorite QB of the bunch since last October.
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