RT- let’s put this to rest right now

We are not spending a premium 6 pick, or even If we lmove back in the 1st rd, to address RT and move Evan Neal to guard. First, the FO isn’t giving up on a top draft pick that played 60% of his games over 2 years while trying to switch to a new a new position. It’s just not happening.

Also, RT can be had in later rounds.


So just put it to rest

That is a load off of my mind.

And dreaming about Evan Neal?

Can we wait until the morning, I need some rest.

Do you trust Neal to block Penix' blindside?

There are some in the building who see the Oline as the biggest issue on the team. So when you say put to rest, it’s not that simple.

In comment 16405830 UberAlias said:

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There are some in the building who see the Oline as the biggest issue on the team. So when you say put to rest, it’s not that simple.

Yes it is that simple. Guard positions are bigger concern than RT. They will likely get a FA guard or two. I do believe they will draft OL in the 2nd or 3rd round.

Well, not that that plan is that simple. But I am certain they will not go OT at #6.

In comment 16405835 section125 said:

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In comment 16405830 UberAlias said: Quote: There are some in the building who see the Oline as the biggest issue on the team. So when you say put to rest, it’s not that simple. Yes it is that simple. Guard positions are bigger concern than RT. They will likely get a FA guard or two. I do believe they will draft OL in the 2nd or 3rd round. Well, not that that plan is that simple. But I am certain they will not go OT at #6.

I don’t think they will either. But I can also recognize the difference between my own belief and others.

1. It won’t be put to rest until Neal plays better. People who automatically presume that a return to health and a new line coach will “cure” Evan are simply guessing or engaging in wishful thinking.
2. Schoen hasn’t put the conversation to rest . “Evan has to play better,” is not exactly a ringing endorsement .

Tackle is a need. If Thomas gets hurt and Neal does not improve the Giants will go 0-17. For those who think QB is the only position that matters you will be happy as giants will get Shedeur Sanders or whoever is next year's QB1. The giants will either sign in FA someone who can play both guard and tackle proficiently, if not at an all pro level or draft a tackle with one of their first 3 picks. At 6 they will take the player they have the most confidence in whether that person is Nabors, JJ,or one of the two top tackles.

you have no say whatsoever in who the NY Giants draft, keep on their roster or start at any position.

None.

In comment 16405844 RetroJint said:

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1. It won’t be put to rest until Neal plays better. People who automatically presume that a return to health and a new line coach will “cure” Evan are simply guessing or engaging in wishful thinking. 2. Schoen hasn’t put the conversation to rest . “Evan has to play better,” is not exactly a ringing endorsement .

Yes. I think Neal start the year at RT, finishing the year at RT will depend on how he plays. If he isn't cutting it, at some point I could see someone else at that spot. No scholarships.

Most impactful player at 6 will be QB or WR. At 37, it will be WR or QB. 47 belongs to the new DC, so he can start to mold his unit. That makes pick 70 the spot to seek OL help.

NJBlueTuna said to put this to rest so it's over. No RT in the first round.

I hope Schoen read this.

in roster construction.
They have TWO, high first rd OT. Can't have 3. ONLY after they decide Neal will not work out, would they consider another high draft pick tackle. Not this year.
Part of the reason Schoen went back and looked at Neal's college tape. AND that they fired Johnson two seconds after the season ended.
There have been two main issues with the OL for over a decade
Acquisition and development.

The first is FA and the draft. Its highly questionable that the right players have been brought in for the schemes we have been running.

The second (and the more damning one in my eyes) is player development.
As someone pointed out, NYG have spent more on the OL than ANY other team. Yet the results have been abysmal. Coaching HAS to be a large part of the problem.
Until they start doing a better job of developing the Neals, Ezeudus and JMSs of the world, they will continue to suck.

is money, optics and pride.

The NFL is a ruthless league. It does not care about the feelings of the players even though the psychological ramifications toward Evan Neal are mounting, he knows he hasn't stayed healthy or played well already. Adding an OL that could play OG or OT is probably the best plan of action.

NYG could draft Alt and move Neal to one of the guard spots.

But as I said, money is gonna be a huge factor in this decision. Paying your LT, RG and RT a large amount of your cap is gonna happen if we draft an OL in round 1 or sign a FA RG.

The optics say keep Neal at RT, sign a top RG and also sign or draft a swing OT.

Pride is Joe Schoen. If he thinks Neal is the RT because he spent the 7th overall pick on a RT and the film means nothing than he is out of a job in 2 years.

is sanity.

In comment 16405902 Dave on the UWS said:

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in roster construction. They have TWO, high first rd OT. Can't have 3. ONLY after they decide Neal will not work out, would they consider another high draft pick tackle. Not this year. Part of the reason Schoen went back and looked at Neal's college tape. AND that they fired Johnson two seconds after the season ended. There have been two main issues with the OL for over a decade Acquisition and development. The first is FA and the draft. Its highly questionable that the right players have been brought in for the schemes we have been running. The second (and the more damning one in my eyes) is player development. As someone pointed out, NYG have spent more on the OL than ANY other team. Yet the results have been abysmal. Coaching HAS to be a large part of the problem. Until they start doing a better job of developing the Neals, Ezeudus and JMSs of the world, they will continue to suck.

What if the new OL coach doesn't see him as a Tackle? And what if the development of Neal means to move him to Guard if the OL coach feels he isn't a Tackle but a very good guard?

SO maybe the very point you are making about development would actualy be stifling to Neal if you dont move him to Guard?

And how many years are you giving the OL coach to fix things and will he stay if the GM and HC get fired?

Below is a link-- maybe Neal is better at Guard. It's the OL coach's job to spot this. Hoefully not just waive and surrender. If he is just a waive and surrender guy then maybe development will never really take place?

https://www.si.com/nfl/giants/big-blue-plus/is-evan-neal-a-better-fit-at-guard-or-tackle

Really doesn’t mean jack shit right now. The Giants had the worst OL in the league last year. They have one good player on the OL right now until proven otherwise. They have a lot of work to do this off-season if they’re going to fix it.

In comment 16405892 Danny Kanell said:

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NJBlueTuna said to put this to rest so it's over. No RT in the first round. I hope Schoen read this.

LOL.