Is it likely the chargers take a WR at the #5 spot?

taking one of the stud OT MUCH more likely. Two reasons:
He likes to ground and pound
He understands the need to protect his QB.
Last year, Herbert got killed (and eventually got knocked out of action).
I would think he will see OL as his biggest offensive need.

I think they go WR or OT at 5 unless they trade down obviously.

In comment 16405951 Dave on the UWS said:

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taking one of the stud OT MUCH more likely. Two reasons: He likes to ground and pound He understands the need to protect his QB. Last year, Herbert got killed (and eventually got knocked out of action). I would think he will see OL as his biggest offensive need.

I agree

I see LAC taking one of Nabers, Odunze, or Bowers. We know Harbaugh likes his TEs. However, it seems like LAC will move on from one or both of Allen and Mike Williams. While Nabers can play anywhere, Odunze is a clear X. They drafted Johnston last year who is more of a slot WR because of all the different things he can do. I'm not sure who Harbaugh and company would value more but they need to help Herbert.

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And they needed to go OL or it was irresponsible for Burrow.

They took Chase.

I hope the Giants pivot to Verse.

Vernon Davis was a huge component of Harbaugh's offense with SF and he may see that as the most immediate impact to the passing game, especially with a focus on a physical run centered, short to intermediate passing attack.

Greg Roman has never been able to run an offense that featured WR's even when he had talent there. Remember the Conference Championship game and it took until the Fourth Quarter I believe for Alex Smith to even complete a single pass to a WR (Crabtree).

I prefer Nabers, but without studying these guys more carefully it would be ignorant of myself to pretend that I know better.

To see but I also feel they could go OLB. Khalil Mack is not going to stay given his ridiculous cap number.

Harbaugh is old school when it comes to offensive philosophy, and that's why I'm not 100% sure they stay and take Nabers.

than Nabers.

Somebody trades with them to move ahead of us for either an OT or QB.

The GBN mock (two posts before this one) has the Chargers taking Odunze at 5, leaving Nabers for the Jints…

In comment 16405952 Jay on the Island said:

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I think they go WR or OT at 5 unless they trade down obviously.

+1 on this ....

He thinks they trade down or go OT. Even if they take Nabers I'm not too worried. Rome Odunze is a great WR himself. A case can be made he's better than Nabers.

In comment 16405976 Lafferty, Daniel said:

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than Nabers.

Totally agree with you!

do. I'd be disappointed to, but really, who knows.

Or maybe trade back.

or trading the pick to a team to jump us for a QB.

but Odunze has that prototypical size/speed combo of an elite WR1.

In comment 16405986 barens said:

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do. I'd be disappointed to, but really, who knows.

Chargers would be wise to draft offensive line. They need to protect their star QB who has had injuries in each of the last two years. He’s also not a mobile QB who you kind of expect to get nicked up which makes him getting hurt an even bigger condemnation on their current line.

In comment 16405997 eric2425ny said:

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but Odunze has that prototypical size/speed combo of an elite WR1.

Have you seen the NFL lately? All the top WRs are Nabers size. This isn't the 90s or early 2000s.

In comment 16405964 Jim in Forest Hills said:

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I hope the Giants pivot to Verse.

HUGE fan of Jared Verse! Reminds me a lot of the Jets Jermaine Johnson. I think a Jared Verse scenario might entail a slight trade down, which is fine by me!

In comment 16406002 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 16405997 eric2425ny said: Quote: but Odunze has that prototypical size/speed combo of an elite WR1. Have you seen the NFL lately? All the top WRs are Nabers size. This isn't the 90s or early 2000s.

Nabers vs Odunze reminds me of the OBJ and Mike Evans draft. The thing the sticks out to me about Nabers is that he gets so much separation, against SEC defenses nonetheless. I love Odunze too but his tape scares me a bit in that a lot of his catches and big plays are contested. Contested catches are important but you also want to see college WRs getting serious separation.

The difference between Odunze and Nabers is indeed an interesting one. Odunze's a clear X with Nabers being able to play everywhere, as another poster pointed out above. Lotsa good points being made. If the Chargers stay at 5---a big IF I may add---then they'll go for Alt the OT, Nabers or Odunze the WRs (MHJR is going 4th in all likelihood to the Cards), or BB the TE from Georgia. Harbaugh being there makes an OT or TE more likely than before he was hired now as another poster also pointed out above.

There is a chance that SD goes for Bowers.

Bowers would be ideal for them.
Give Herbert a security blanket. Bowers is favorably compared to Kittles.

It feels good to see people enjoying the thread lol. I remember getting roasted during Evan Neals rookie year when I said there is a serious issue Re why he winds up on the ground so much considering he is 6’7”…but I digress


I do think that out of all the variables in the top 5 of this draft, what the Chargers do at #5 will be most significant and sting the most assuming we don’t trade up. Now that I think about it, I would not be surprised if we trade up to #5 if we feel that strongly with a particular player.

There is some recency bias that people feel Nabers is the next OBJ. No one has said that before, I’m saying it now.

and Odunze are going to be rated with similar grades. Based on Buffalo and who the Giants have gone after in FA I think Nabors is the preference for the Giants but I think both players merit the choice at 6.

My worst case scenario is an OT at 6. Yes we need to fix the OL in the worst way but we cant keep throwing 1st rounders on the line and still not have a good unit. That would be 3 high 1sts and a 2nd rounder. It would be pretty pathetic if they still didnt play well.

I am pounding the table for a WR. I think a WR opens this offense up and makes other teams back off a bit on the LOS. Regardless of who is QB, if we roll out the same WRs next year this team its just not going progress this team. In a passing league you need WRs.

In comment 16405977 UberAlias said:

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Somebody trades with them to move ahead of us for either an OT or QB.

I think if one of the big 4 QBs is still there at 5 then it's almost certain some team will trade San Diego the farm to move up in front of us. If not, they'll select Harrison or an offensive lineman.

In comment 16405980 Big Rick in FL said:

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He thinks they trade down or go OT. Even if they take Nabers I'm not too worried. Rome Odunze is a great WR himself. A case can be made he's better than Nabers.

If they take Nabers, then that means one of the QBs would be there for us at #6.

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or trading the pick to a team to jump us for a QB.

That’s what I think.

In comment 16405951 Dave on the UWS said:

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taking one of the stud OT MUCH more likely. Two reasons: He likes to ground and pound He understands the need to protect his QB. Last year, Herbert got killed (and eventually got knocked out of action). I would think he will see OL as his biggest offensive need.

Completely agree with this... I would say the biggest threat is AZ who needs WRs more than Chargers.

In comment 16406470 Rudy5757 said:

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and Odunze are going to be rated with similar grades. Based on Buffalo and who the Giants have gone after in FA I think Nabors is the preference for the Giants but I think both players merit the choice at 6. My worst case scenario is an OT at 6. Yes we need to fix the OL in the worst way but we cant keep throwing 1st rounders on the line and still not have a good unit. That would be 3 high 1sts and a 2nd rounder. It would be pretty pathetic if they still didnt play well. I am pounding the table for a WR. I think a WR opens this offense up and makes other teams back off a bit on the LOS. Regardless of who is QB, if we roll out the same WRs next year this team its just not going progress this team. In a passing league you need WRs.

I completely disagree with this.. We have know way of knowing if Jalin Hyatt can be the number 1? The few times that D.J had more then 1/2 a second to get the ball to him, I think he looked pretty darned good, his speed can not be denied.

It doesn't matter if we drafted Offensive Line 1st round in the past 30 drafts, a stud lineman solves lots of problems

Ten years from now our line is still going to be a problem, time to stop trying and actually fix it.. We need bodies, coaching, schemes, etc..The team needs to be aggressive with this

In comment 16406470 Rudy5757 said:

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My worst case scenario is an OT at 6. Yes we need to fix the OL in the worst way but we cant keep throwing 1st rounders on the line.

I'm guessing the OL talk will end when the Giants sign a big ticket OL in free agency. It will be a QB, a WR, or Bowers if the Giants stay at #6.
I predict - ( New Window )

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In comment 16406470 Rudy5757 said: Quote: My worst case scenario is an OT at 6. Yes we need to fix the OL in the worst way but we cant keep throwing 1st rounders on the line. I'm guessing the OL talk will end when the Giants sign a big ticket OL in free agency. It will be a QB, a WR, or Bowers if the Giants stay at #6. I predict - ( New Window )

If this happens, I'm all in for Bowers or WR/then go O-Line in round 2..Don't stop in free agency

For a QB.

In comment 16406748 Amc825 said:

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For a QB.

We will I bet. Harbaugh doesn't wanna miss his guy and trading down with us ensures they get the player he wants whether it's Alt, Nabers, Bowers or someone else. He knows what he wants to build that team and he won't risk missing that blue chip building block juet for extra draft capital in a draft that isn't very deep especially.

In comment 16406170 NJBlueTuna said:

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It feels good to see people enjoying the thread lol. I remember getting roasted during Evan Neals rookie year when I said there is a serious issue Re why he winds up on the ground so much considering he is 6’7”…but I digress I do think that out of all the variables in the top 5 of this draft, what the Chargers do at #5 will be most significant and sting the most assuming we don’t trade up. Now that I think about it, I would not be surprised if we trade up to #5 if we feel that strongly with a particular player.

We will trade a 4th and a 6th or something like that to get our QB I think. Harbaugh gets his guy and an extra 4th and 6th. If he trades down to 8 or further he likely won't get Bowers or Nabers or Alt.

The talk of WR to Chargers seems weird to me. Their need for OL to protect Herbert matches up with the board. I think they’ll go Alt or Fashunu.

In comment 16406771 ryanmkeane said:

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The talk of WR to Chargers seems weird to me. Their need for OL to protect Herbert matches up with the board. I think they’ll go Alt or Fashunu.

I agree but they have geriatric wrs so it makes sense either way

I believe that people suggesting Alt or Fashanu at 5 to the Chargers are misguided. While Harbaugh loves his OL and wants to win in the line of scrimmage, the Chargers already have an All-Pro LT in Slater, just like us.
As we know, changing from LT to RT is not easy, as Evan Neal can attest. I don't think the Chargers will make the same mistake we did by drafting an LT and putting him at RT. Hortiz Chargers GM, who is from Baltimore, takes the best player available approach. I believe the Chargers have a greater chance of drafting Nabers, who appears to be a consensus top 5 player in this draft.