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ajr2456 : 2/24/2024 8:39 am
Biggest game of the year so far.
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Precious as played well  
nygiants16 : 2/24/2024 10:00 pm : link
but thia may be a game where we need more Bojan at the 4 to spread the floor a little bit
Jesus christ making a fucking sub Thibs  
nygiants16 : 2/24/2024 10:07 pm : link
you have zero spacing on offense, enough of the two bigs, its not working...
Fucking hate the Celtics and KP so much  
Anakim : 2/24/2024 10:07 pm : link
Meanwhile, these assholes can’t miss a 3



We need Bojan to come in and get hot
Celtics shooting a cool 69% from the field.  
bceagle05 : 2/24/2024 10:08 pm : link
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Thibs is a jackass sometimes  
nygiants16 : 2/24/2024 10:11 pm : link
there is no spacing so his first sub is Jericho sims
I mean they shot 65% in the first half  
Stu11 : 2/24/2024 10:11 pm : link
And somehow came out and improved on it in the 3rd qtr. To be fair the Knicks picked up their D but this is impossible. They can't miss.
So glad Jericho Sims was the first sub  
nygiants16 : 2/24/2024 10:15 pm : link
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This is the type of coaching  
nygiants16 : 2/24/2024 10:17 pm : link
that will get Thibs fired and the Knicks an early exit, absolutely zero change to his gameplan, jist watxh the offense grind to a fucking halt because he refuses to go away from the 2 bigs
RE: So glad Jericho Sims was the first sub  
Stu11 : 2/24/2024 10:18 pm : link
In comment 16407329 nygiants16 said:
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The offense is fine. The Celtics missed 3 shots the whole qtr.
Burks has been fucking horrendous  
bceagle05 : 2/24/2024 10:29 pm : link
since the trade.
Brunson and Hart are gassed  
nygiants16 : 2/24/2024 10:30 pm : link
great substitution pattern Thibs...

You Know Deuce played pretty well in the 1st half
Thibs  
Maggot Brain : 2/24/2024 10:30 pm : link
will be just fine. To keep expecting miracles without two of their best players is ridiculous. And Hartenstein isn't at full strength either. No Mitch. Calm the fuck down and wait until this team is full strength. No team in the East will want to play the Knicks in a seven-game series. Including the Celtics.
RE: Thibs  
nygiants16 : 2/24/2024 10:32 pm : link
In comment 16407335 Maggot Brain said:
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will be just fine. To keep expecting miracles without two of their best players is ridiculous. And Hartenstein isn't at full strength either. No Mitch. Calm the fuck down and wait until this team is full strength. No team in the East will want to play the Knicks in a seven-game series. Including the Celtics.


Just because the team is not at full strngth he can make subs so guys are not completely gassed while leaving some starters on the court..

Guy in Miami does a really good job of it, its really not hard, they have a deep enoigh bench right now to do it
What miracles have we been getting?  
bceagle05 : 2/24/2024 10:34 pm : link
We’re about to fall to 2-6 in our last eight. And call me when they’re at full strength.
Celtics finally missing a few shots  
bceagle05 : 2/24/2024 10:35 pm : link
about an hour too late.
I mean making 1 sub in the entire 3rd  
nygiants16 : 2/24/2024 10:36 pm : link
is just terrible coaching
lol and now he brings Brunson and Hart back  
nygiants16 : 2/24/2024 10:36 pm : link
down 19
RE: Burks has been fucking horrendous  
Mike from SI : 2/24/2024 10:37 pm : link
In comment 16407333 bceagle05 said:
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since the trade.


He really gets on my nerves when he's not hitting shots.
Just overmatched with all the injuries  
steve in ky : 2/24/2024 10:39 pm : link
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There  
Maggot Brain : 2/24/2024 10:39 pm : link
isn't a game they've lost in the last 10 games they should have won, maybe save Houston with that bullshit foul call on Brunson. They are outmanned. Simple as that.
RE: RE: Burks has been fucking horrendous  
nygiants16 : 2/24/2024 10:40 pm : link
In comment 16407341 Mike from SI said:
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since the trade.



He really gets on my nerves when he's not hitting shots.


Hopefully when the team is fully healthy he moves more off the ball but right now he is dominating the ball way to much, id rather the ball in Bojans hands
RE: There  
nygiants16 : 2/24/2024 10:42 pm : link
In comment 16407344 Maggot Brain said:
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isn't a game they've lost in the last 10 games they should have won, maybe save Houston with that bullshit foul call on Brunson. They are outmanned. Simple as that.


You realize in that game he didnt make a sub the entire 3rd then started the 4th with gassed and ice cold players and the Rockets immediately pushed the lead to 10...

You are right they are undermanned but his subsititons right now are maddening, you got a guy on the bench that is a walking bucket, the celtics get hot and instead of bringing in a shooter to help Brunson, you bring in Jericho Sims...

Dude give it a rest  
Stu11 : 2/24/2024 10:42 pm : link
Outside of Deuce the bench has been beyond awful tonight. He should have brought Deuce in during the 3rd qtr but outside of that it's hard for the coach to do anything when the best team in the NBA shoots 80% in a qtr.
Celtica knew  
nygiants16 : 2/24/2024 10:45 pm : link
the Knicks had 3 guys who couldnt shoot on the court..Celtics stayed home on DDV, and jist converged on Brunson with nowhere to go and if Hart Precious or ihart are wide open who cares..

Instead of adjusting and bringing in more shooters, Thibs leaned into it and it killed them..

Against the Sixers he went small and it worked, i dont know why he doesnt go to it more
RE: Dude give it a rest  
nygiants16 : 2/24/2024 10:46 pm : link
In comment 16407348 Stu11 said:
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Outside of Deuce the bench has been beyond awful tonight. He should have brought Deuce in during the 3rd qtr but outside of that it's hard for the coach to do anything when the best team in the NBA shoots 80% in a qtr.


Its a simple adjustment and i am sorry not subbing in the 3rd except for Sims is inexcusable
Luckiky it sounds like  
nygiants16 : 2/24/2024 10:53 pm : link
OG is a week away
RE: RE: Dude give it a rest  
Stu11 : 2/24/2024 10:53 pm : link
In comment 16407350 nygiants16 said:
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Outside of Deuce the bench has been beyond awful tonight. He should have brought Deuce in during the 3rd qtr but outside of that it's hard for the coach to do anything when the best team in the NBA shoots 80% in a qtr.



Its a simple adjustment and i am sorry not subbing in the 3rd except for Sims is inexcusable

He did adjust at half time. They took the paint away and made the Celtics shoot 3's and they go 9-11 in the 3rd. They didn't miss a shot for 3 qtrs. Unless Thibs pulled Jordan, Isaiah Thomas and Hakeem Olajuwan out of his ass this was not gonna be our night my friend.
Alec Burks has one assist in last 62 minutes of court time  
shyster : 2/24/2024 11:05 pm : link
And is 11-40 (27.5%) from the field in the last four games.

Never liked him on the first go-round. Mistake to give him back to Thibs.

The point of trading for a guard at the deadline was supposed to be to get someone who could run the offense when Brunson takes a break. Burks ain't it.
RE: Alec Burks has one assist in last 62 minutes of court time  
Larry in Pencilvania : 2/24/2024 11:08 pm : link
In comment 16407356 shyster said:
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And is 11-40 (27.5%) from the field in the last four games.

Never liked him on the first go-round. Mistake to give him back to Thibs.

The point of trading for a guard at the deadline was supposed to be to get someone who could run the offense when Brunson takes a break. Burks ain't it.


Burks tries to dominate the ball. This isn't Detroit, you have a role and your not needed to hog the ball. Run the offense or sit
RE: RE: Over under on Doris Burke saying  
NormanAllen_95 : 2/25/2024 1:50 am : link
In comment 16407320 steve in ky said:
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Jalen Brunson is undersized. I say 5 and take the over



I don’t understand how she has held the job as long as she has, she’s awful


Is that a serious question?
The problem wasn't having or not having shooters  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/25/2024 2:27 am : link
You're gonna lose when the other team shoots 55% from 3 and 68% overall.

Putting Bogdanovich and Burks out there for more shooting doesn't address that.
Sometimes the other team is just on  
ajr2456 : 2/25/2024 7:06 am : link
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Matchups last night were of the ridiculous nature.  
TheMick7 : 2/25/2024 10:04 am : link
DD covering Kristaps was almost laughable.Celtics whole team was intact last night & they had an amazing shooting night, along with excelling at the layup drill. This is where Mitch's defensive presence is so important, as he'd shut that down. For now,win as many as possible,but regardless,don't get more players injured by playing them in blowouts(Talking to you Thibs,Brunson came out last night with only 1:09 left in the game). We're pretty sure 2 of the 3 injured (OG,Mitch) will be back sometime in late March.Randle is the huge question mark. His game is physical & if the shoulder isn't 100%, he won't be able to play his game.But, if we get our roster back intact,matchups vs the Celtics & others change drastically & I like our chances versus anyone!
RE: The problem wasn't having or not having shooters  
shyster : 2/25/2024 10:29 am : link
In comment 16407378 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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You're gonna lose when the other team shoots 55% from 3 and 68% overall.

Putting Bogdanovich and Burks out there for more shooting doesn't address that.


Celtics shot 15-35, 42.9% from 3 and 56% overall.

After the hot stretch in the 3Q, they missed every 3 they took for the rest of the game. Tatum, Brown and Holiday were a combined 7-23 from 3.

After the Knicks drew within 99-90 with 9:17 remaining, they didn't score a point for over five minutes, until 4:03.

With both Burks and Bogdonovich on the court. Randle will help, but the Knicks 4Q offense in playoffs will be challenged.

Big picture: agenda is to avoid the Celtics and hope someone else knocks them off. Finishing 2-3 would be great. Otherwise, rather finish 6 than 4-5.

The good news it sounds like  
nygiants16 : 2/25/2024 10:34 am : link
OG will be back in a week or 2 and Hartenstein played a lot more minutes last night..

Team is getting healthier and a bunch of home games coming up..
RE: Matchups last night were of the ridiculous nature.  
nygiants16 : 2/25/2024 10:37 am : link
In comment 16407477 TheMick7 said:
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DD covering Kristaps was almost laughable.Celtics whole team was intact last night & they had an amazing shooting night, along with excelling at the layup drill. This is where Mitch's defensive presence is so important, as he'd shut that down. For now,win as many as possible,but regardless,don't get more players injured by playing them in blowouts(Talking to you Thibs,Brunson came out last night with only 1:09 left in the game). We're pretty sure 2 of the 3 injured (OG,Mitch) will be back sometime in late March.Randle is the huge question mark. His game is physical & if the shoulder isn't 100%, he won't be able to play his game.But, if we get our roster back intact,matchups vs the Celtics & others change drastically & I like our chances versus anyone!


Mitch doesnt help against the Celtica because of KP, Mitch is not good extending..

I think OG is the bigger help in the matchup because then you go with OG at the 4 and Precious at the 5 and you got the ability to switch and help..
Need to get everyone back, simple as that.  
Del Shofner : 2/25/2024 10:44 am : link
What pisses me off about KP is that Phil Jackson was right about him, but we never really got the benefit of it.
Mitch is a premier rim defender though  
ajr2456 : 2/25/2024 10:48 am : link
The Celtics hit like 65% percent of their shots inside the 3 point line in the first off that opened up the barrage of 3s in the the 3rd that ultimately cost them the game.

Mitch helps counteract that
RE: RE: Matchups last night were of the ridiculous nature.  
Stu11 : 2/25/2024 10:52 am : link
In comment 16407506 nygiants16 said:
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DD covering Kristaps was almost laughable.Celtics whole team was intact last night & they had an amazing shooting night, along with excelling at the layup drill. This is where Mitch's defensive presence is so important, as he'd shut that down. For now,win as many as possible,but regardless,don't get more players injured by playing them in blowouts(Talking to you Thibs,Brunson came out last night with only 1:09 left in the game). We're pretty sure 2 of the 3 injured (OG,Mitch) will be back sometime in late March.Randle is the huge question mark. His game is physical & if the shoulder isn't 100%, he won't be able to play his game.But, if we get our roster back intact,matchups vs the Celtics & others change drastically & I like our chances versus anyone!



Mitch doesnt help against the Celtica because of KP, Mitch is not good extending..

I think OG is the bigger help in the matchup because then you go with OG at the 4 and Precious at the 5 and you got the ability to switch and help..

Before he got hurt Mitch got better at extending this year. Listen Porzi has shot 56% from 3 this year vs us. No C can deal with that. Mitch has been real effective vs the Celts in recent years closing off the paint in drop coverage and his offensive rebounding is a real weapon vs them as it was last night keeping us in the game till Boston just got too hot. I think DD's lateral quickness is still compromised with the hammy and that hurt us vs Brown last night. I think if DD is 100% and we get OG back to guard Tatum and a somewhat effective Randle a playoff series vs then will be a whole different story than these regular season games have been.
I think the Knicks matchup when healthy  
nygiants16 : 2/25/2024 11:06 am : link
vs the celtics, Randle usually does well against Brown and Og can guard Tatum..

DDV can then guard White and Brunson sticks to Holiday..

It would be dog fight type of series
A healthy Knicks team has a lot of different combos  
ajr2456 : 2/25/2024 11:13 am : link
You could effectively run a lineup of Deuce-Hart-OG-Bogi-Mitch at times and not be at risk of getting run out of the game
RE: A healthy Knicks team has a lot of different combos  
nygiants16 : 2/25/2024 11:15 am : link
In comment 16407530 ajr2456 said:
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You could effectively run a lineup of Deuce-Hart-OG-Bogi-Mitch at times and not be at risk of getting run out of the game


I think thats their bench in the playoffs, i say bench, but the lineup that starts the 2md and 4th
One matchup with Celtics remaining to avoid 0-5 sweep  
shyster : 2/25/2024 11:16 am : link
and make some kind of a statement: @ Boston on 4/11.

Last road game of the season, and last game of a weird 4 game trip that goes to Chicago, to Milwaukee, back to Chicago, then to Boston.

And the Knicks get the Bulls for last home game, three games in just over a week.
RE: RE: Matchups last night were of the ridiculous nature.  
TheMick7 : 2/26/2024 8:43 am : link
In comment 16407506 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 16407477 TheMick7 said:


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DD covering Kristaps was almost laughable.Celtics whole team was intact last night & they had an amazing shooting night, along with excelling at the layup drill. This is where Mitch's defensive presence is so important, as he'd shut that down. For now,win as many as possible,but regardless,don't get more players injured by playing them in blowouts(Talking to you Thibs,Brunson came out last night with only 1:09 left in the game). We're pretty sure 2 of the 3 injured (OG,Mitch) will be back sometime in late March.Randle is the huge question mark. His game is physical & if the shoulder isn't 100%, he won't be able to play his game.But, if we get our roster back intact,matchups vs the Celtics & others change drastically & I like our chances versus anyone!



Mitch doesnt help against the Celtica because of KP, Mitch is not good extending..

I think OG is the bigger help in the matchup because then you go with OG at the 4 and Precious at the 5 and you got the ability to switch and help..


You do understand that they can change matchups if everyone's healthy?(although Thibs is sometimes as inflexible as a rock!) iHart could play the 4 & come out to cover KP, while OG plays the 3! The question would be,who adjusts to the other's lineup in that particular game's situation? If the Celtics were to shoot that well every game, no adjustment will help!
Unless the Celtics  
ajr2456 : 2/26/2024 8:53 am : link
come out and shit the bed, it's going to be very hard to shut down their three point shooting.

Take away the easy shots in the paint, get your best perimeter defender back and get your second best offensive player back and you have a chance to beat them
The key to any series vs the Celtics  
nygiants16 : 2/26/2024 9:00 am : link
is OG, because he can basically guard brown or tatum 1 on 1, there doesnt need tk be a double..

Most of the Celtics offense comes from Tatum or Brown drawing the defense and kicking for wide open 3s
Right  
ajr2456 : 2/26/2024 9:05 am : link
The Celtics have really good ball movement and the Knicks got caught a step behind in some of their rotations because of that.

You have rotate less when a player like OG is able to guard an elite scorer 1 on 1. Just look back to some of the blowouts they had against good teams when OG was in the lineup. The impact he brings to the defense is invaluable. Same with Mitch in whatever limited minutes he's able to play.

I'm very curious to see a Brunson-DDV-OG-Precious-Mitch lineup at times, especially if they run into Cleveland or Milwaukee.
Randle doing on court work with Johnny Bryant  
nygiants16 : 2/26/2024 11:47 am : link
getting closer
The issue with the Celtics is that they are a rare starting lineup  
Stu11 : 2/26/2024 11:55 am : link
In that all 5 guys can score 20 on a given night and all 5 can bury the 3. So you really can't double all over the place. Agreed that's why OG and Mitch are so big against them. You need some of their shooting to be off, cut off the paint and really kill them on the glass. With all that shooting and scoring in the starting lineup they are a little soft in the rebounding dept. They will be a real tough out for sure.
You know what's nutso?  
Anakim : 2/26/2024 12:17 pm : link
The Knicks own the first round picks of the two teams with the worst records in the NBA.


But they're protected :'(
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