I think they need to sign two very good veteran guards as free agents to solidify the line (that is if Neal is going to be at RT again). They also need to find a tight end who can block. They need to get as close as they can with "sure things" rather than more time needed to develop draft picks, that is if they don't whiff on them. The OL should be the top priority this off-season as it is the biggest reason why this team doesn't win. And that has been the case for several years now. They have to stop screwing around and they need to finally get this fixed.
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No - we need to just get the right players.
I totally agree with what you shared though, there is zero excuse in year 3 for this OL to not at least be average. The most important hire this offseason was Bricillo, I hope for this regimes sake they got it right.
Don't wanna hear the Andrew Thomas excuse from Schoen again either, yes he's an all pro but you also know now he gets banged up. Not saying you can mitigate a drop off if he's out but a semblance of a functioning OL is pretty fair floor.
No - we need to just get the right players.
What they need is to find a top tier OL coach and compensate him enough to make it near impossible to leave. Like Stoutland in Philly.
No - we need to just get the right players.
What's the point of this post? Zeitler is still playing at a high level and obviously the premise is to get the right players. What is the "no" in reference to? If the implication is to draft players high... please don't.
FA OG (speaking of Duh!)
From what I saw if this year's FA list, the best available FA guards all have issues. The under 30s have injury histories, and the over 30s aren't studs. That is, they're still band aids.
As for Zeitler, he looked old, slow, and DONE when he played here. Since he left, he's looked better in better OL units.
Perhaps that's the problem. Every OL who comes to the Giants gets/plays worse. The fucking 49ers got mileage out Feliciano last year.
Any rookie they bring in is going to need a year or two to develop.
they need to bring in a veteran.
Any rookie they bring in is going to need a year or two to develop.
they need to bring in a veteran.
No not necessarily true. There are rookie OGs start and play well.
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Any rookie they bring in is going to need a year or two to develop.
they need to bring in a veteran.
No not necessarily true. There are rookie OGs start and play well.
That hasn't happened here in, I think, 20 years. Who was the last one? I'm filtering my opinions through the lens of what the Giants do. I'll beleive they can produce a day 1 positive draft pick at OL when I see it happen.
And this is not to say I'm down on Schmitz, I think he did well enough at a very difficult position, but I have no confidence any player they pick as a rookie is going to step in and be a net positive impact player immediately.
(Ex: Daboll wants a certain with to his passing pocket, so from day 1 Johnson had the tackles setting at a 45 degree angle.
So as a rookie, Neal was switching from left to right tackle AND had to learn a new technique for pass protection he had never done. He struggled, then got hurt and struggled some more.
Thomas had a similar situation as a rookie, where he was being asked to use different techniques by Columbo. When that dude was fired, Judge had him go back to what worked for him in college.
Doesn’t seem like Neal has gotten the same break. An excellent RT is still in there, I’m hopeful Bricilo can unlock it.
Rome wasn't built in a day
I agree, I think 1 guard 8n FA, re then we grab another in the draft. Bring back bredeson and maybe re-sign Peart to a light contract as he appeared to be getting better
LT Thomas / Eluemunor
LG Bredeson / Ezuedu /Rookie
C JMS / Bredeson / Rookie
Rg Dotson / Bredeson / Phillips
RT Neal / Eluemunor / Phillips
MCKethan would go to the PS, glowinski would be cut.
LT Thomas / Eluemunor
LG Bredeson / Ezuedu /Rookie
C JMS / Bredeson / Rookie
Rg Dotson / Bredeson / Phillips
RT Neal / Eluemunor / Phillips
MCKethan would go to the PS, glowinski would be cut.
I don't think Eluemunor would come here, and not start.
I agree with you, but you need those replacement bodies here before you cut those guys.
Too many posters here get confused between needing to focus on improving the OL, vs having spent picks or FA signings on that area in the past. This car will not run without an improved OL. It is not fixed yet so we must continue to spend resources until the offense can function.
Me too, especially since I would be 100 in 2060!
But who are the sure things that they advise on? I didn't see sure thing type of names.
Draft a G and get better coaching
I guess Kevin Boothe was pretty reliable. But man, what a revolving door of shit it's been for well over a decade.
No - we need to just get the right players.