1st round, No. 6: Jayden Daniels, QB, LSU
2nd round, No. 39: Darius Robinson, Edge, Missouri
2nd round, No. 47: Ja'Lynn Polk, WR, Washington
3rd round, No. 70: Kris Jenkins, DT, Michigan
4th round, No. 107: Christian Mahogany, OG, Boston College
5th round, No. 139: Dillon Johnson, RB, Washington
6th round, No. 184: Andru Phillips, DB, Kentucky
Write-ups on each pick linked below.
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Daniel Jones doesn't have the body to hold up to a 17 game NFL schedule. He's done it once in his career.
Crap. I had no idea. Thanks for the warning in advance. Which one of these players has no chance to bust? that's the guy I want.
So his floor is Daniel Jones? On a much cheaper contract?
Sounds like a great pick. Thanks!
Aren't priorities winning, especially winning against good (.500+) teams? Hasn't Jones done that, like all of 5 times in 5 years?
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if Schoen and Daboll take a QB they are staking their jobs on the QB's success. other positions too since this is a premium pick in a good draft, but QB more so.
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But mark my words. Jayden Daniels has a major chance to bust. He doesn't have the type of arm to be a consistent winner in bad weather conditions. He doesn't have the body type to hold up to a 17 game NFL schedule either. He should go to a dome team if anything.
Daniel Jones doesn't have the body to hold up to a 17 game NFL schedule. He's done it once in his career.
Actually DJ does have the body type to hold up. What he doesnt have is the OL or the pocket awareness.
I agree Jayden Daniels is a bit of a risk. He is rail thin for the NFL and he does not possess a power arm. But he does have some electric traits. His running, while not Lamar Jackson-good, will be top 4 in the NFL and fun as hell to watch. And his deep ball reminds me of prime Russ. I think Daboll can do something with this kid. In spite of the legit concerns, if Daniels is there at #6, the Giants have to take him.
It's funny, people only bring this kind of thinking to QB. You never hear that we can't draft a certain WR, or OL, or DL because there is a chance he could bust
For me, as long as it is not a limiting factor in game planning then he can still be a great player. I also think that is an area where he can progress as a professional whereas things like accuracy are less likely (Josh Allen notwithstanding).
For me, as long as it is not a limiting factor in game planning then he can still be a great player. I also think that is an area where he can progress as a professional whereas things like accuracy are less likely (Josh Allen notwithstanding).
"he can still be a great player"
Well, I'm glad these guys are exposing themselves.
A cheaper bust would be better for the team than the current $40 million bust
All that said --I haven't broken down the guys tape, so if NYG loves like clearly some do, then go for it.
Using that logic, why do anything different with the line? Can't each one of those players - with much fewer starts in the NFL - also still be great?
Trade all the draft picks! We don't need help! Everyone on the team may be a HoF player!
This isn’t really going out on a limb. Most qbs are busts. You gotta get lucky.
Here’s the rub for a lot of BBI I think. I’ll speak for myself but I’m sure I have company: I don’t want to see Jones take another snap at qb for The Giants. Heck I’ll take Taylor or DeVito - at least they throw the ball downfield. So give me Daniels or whomever. I just want to see someone else. Warts & all. I want to see what Daboll can do with someone who can sling it & I’ll live with the consequences. I’d rather watch that than Jones throwing 5 yard passes into coverage cause he can’t or won’t throw guys open.
And Daniel Jones' biggest issue is processing.
I doubt Daniels, Jenkins, or Mahogany are available to our picks in the first, third, and fourth rounds. The Raiders are apparently very high on Daniels and might well be willing to make a major move up to get him.
I'm not sure what you thinks this proves. DJ is 6'5" and 235 lbs. This certainly doesn't guarantee he will be durable but if that isn't the body type to endure, what is?
Eli was incredibly durable. Part of that durabikity was due to outstanding pocket presence. Part of it was, as bad as his OL was at the end, he also played behind some good ones.
Saying DJ doesn't live up to the 2nd most durable QB of all time so then he doesn't have the body type to last isn't the mic drop you think it is.
Running quarterbacks get hit even more.
Daniel Jones has played five seasons and has only played a full schedule once.
He's the very definition of injury prone.
He can be a great backup - maybe?
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But mark my words. Jayden Daniels has a major chance to bust. He doesn't have the type of arm to be a consistent winner in bad weather conditions. He doesn't have the body type to hold up to a 17 game NFL schedule either. He should go to a dome team if anything.
Daniel Jones doesn't have the body to hold up to a 17 game NFL schedule. He's done it once in his career.
This is true of course, but also he's gotten the living shit beaten out of him since day one as a Giant.
I also think he should be replaced because his performance has been too lackluster. When your quarterback's biggest strength is running, then by definition you don't have a franchise QB. Add in his injury history, and he has to be replaced.
However they do it, Schoen and the rest of the FO need to find his replacement, probably in this draft.
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That it would be ok to draft a bust, just be as long if he was cheaper. Priorites are way out of wack-this is Jones derangement syndrome.
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We need QB, WR and EDGE, doesn't necessarily have to be in the order but with the Seattle pick, we have a chance to address each of these in the first 2 rounds.
Running quarterbacks get hit even more.
Daniel Jones has played five seasons and has only played a full schedule once.
He's the very definition of injury prone.
Who said he wasnt? Re-read your post and my response. You are making a strawman argument.
Injury prone is not what you said. You mentioned his body type being the problem with his durability. I disagreed that his body type was the problem. I think it is a combination of his OL, pocket awareness, playing style/playcalling and probably some bad luck. I dont think body type is a contributing factor and I certainly dont think it is a matter of toughness with him.
I agree that certain players (including Jones) are injury prone for a variety of reasons. I dont think body type is one of them for DJ.
If we only give him a chance...
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But mark my words. Jayden Daniels has a major chance to bust. He doesn't have the type of arm to be a consistent winner in bad weather conditions. He doesn't have the body type to hold up to a 17 game NFL schedule either. He should go to a dome team if anything.
Daniel Jones doesn't have the body to hold up to a 17 game NFL schedule. He's done it once in his career.
This is true of course, but also he's gotten the living shit beaten out of him since day one as a Giant.
Some of it is the bad line, absolutely. And some of it is the fact that he is lost trying to read an NFL defense and make a decision. It is a terrible combination.
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I get that concern but as far as prioritizing traits, I think arm strength is about 5th or 6th on the list, for me.
For me, as long as it is not a limiting factor in game planning then he can still be a great player. I also think that is an area where he can progress as a professional whereas things like accuracy are less likely (Josh Allen notwithstanding).
"he can still be a great player"
Well, I'm glad these guys are exposing themselves.
Forgive me but Im not sure what your point is here.
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But mark my words. Jayden Daniels has a major chance to bust. He doesn't have the type of arm to be a consistent winner in bad weather conditions. He doesn't have the body type to hold up to a 17 game NFL schedule either. He should go to a dome team if anything.
I agree Jayden Daniels is a bit of a risk. He is rail thin for the NFL and he does not possess a power arm. But he does have some electric traits. His running, while not Lamar Jackson-good, will be top 4 in the NFL and fun as hell to watch. And his deep ball reminds me of prime Russ. I think Daboll can do something with this kid. In spite of the legit concerns, if Daniels is there at #6, the Giants have to take him.
I actually trust Daboll and Schoen to properly evaluate these quarterbacks and then make a choice as to which one they think they can coach up to be a starting QB.
That's the thing that these mock drafts unavoidably miss: it's not about who's available at #6, it's really about which quarterback the Giants first identify as the one they want, then it's a question of what they're willing to do to land him.
They're not going to draft Daniels just 'cos he's there when we pick, they have to really believe in him.
That said, this is definitely one of the better mocks. It's a good haul.
He has some outstanding attributes that will allow him to be dominant in the NFL.
He can not play in a traditional offense, the offense would have to be geared to his talents.
The Giants would have to run an offense similar to Baltimore's.
The offense would spread the field, RPO, play action, and challenge the boundaries.
Daniels can run and throw passes as well as any college QB.
Build the offense to maximize those skills.
I would not be surprised.