Cam Marino "Team I'm watching for a big move up is the NYG"

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above the rest, I support them trading what they need to in order to land him. If they aren't right about him they will all be unemployed in a couple of years (unless John Mara takes a shine to the QB and he gets a five year scholarship).

However I find it tough to believe because you can make a case that 4 of the 5 teams drafting ahead of us need a QB. (That includes Arizona who won’t but probably should move on from Murray)

They are within striking distance of Williams so it would be ridiculous for them not to try.

It's just common sense.

And for all the shit Mara gets, if he okays this regime to make a bold move at QB a year after writing Jones a check for $82M, Mara deserves a lot of credit. A lot of owners wouldn't be okay with that.

bust.. see Trey Lance.

The 49ers were lucky that Purdy fell into their laps because that was a brutal trade.

I would rather stay at 6 and take JJ McCarthy, or draft 1 of Nabers or Odunze then trade back up and grab McCarthy if he falls.

In comment 16408455 Mike from Ohio said:

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above the rest, I support them trading what they need to in order to land him. If they aren't right about him they will all be unemployed in a couple of years (unless John Mara takes a shine to the QB and he gets a five year scholarship).

I think taking a swing and missing on a QB prospect would be a bad reason to fire a GM. The decision to take the swing is the correct decision, isn't it?

doesn’t see this as a 1 QB draft, Giants have as much or more trade ammo as any team. Not earth shaking news to think they’re the prime candidate to move up. The question is whether Bears (or Commies or Pats) are willing to forego a shot at finding their franchise QB.

I'm less panicked about the roster than some. I'm also less bullish on the concept that more picks = more success. Sure, you don't want to empty your coffers entirely, but how's that 2022 11-pick draft looking? Thibs, Wan'Dale and a bunch of JAGs thus far.

They can get OL in free agency and later rounds. The wide receivers actually performed and got open last year according to a lot of metrics; the OL and QB play let them down there.

Edge opposite Thibs and CB remain a concern however.

But who knows. The asking price would be simply massive.

Stop buying into these people trying to sell you on this off season garbage

Regardless of rumors - do not see Washington or Patriots not taking a QB.

There may be no room to move

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And for all the shit Mara gets, if he okays this regime to make a bold move at QB a year after writing Jones a check for $82M, Mara deserves a lot of credit. A lot of owners wouldn't be okay with that.

I'm not ready to coronate Mara owner of the year or cleared of prior sins, but this would be great sign for him and Schoen.

I'll believe it when I see it...

Cam Marino?

In comment 16408455 Mike from Ohio said:

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above the rest, I support them trading what they need to in order to land him. If they aren't right about him they will all be unemployed in a couple of years (unless John Mara takes a shine to the QB and he gets a five year scholarship).

There it is, the completely unfounded and dumb Mara take again.

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Stop buying into these people trying to sell you on this off season garbage

Thanks Mr. Schoen.

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In comment 16408485 Giants said: Quote: Stop buying into these people trying to sell you on this off season garbage Thanks Mr. Schoen.

More likely Mrs. Jones.

In comment 16408489 JonC said:

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Cam Marino?

I'm not too familiar with him, but I've seen him mentioned/followed by legit reporters. That's the only reason I posted this. He's definitely not some random idiot on Twitter that makes stuff up.

It’s time for smoke. Lots of it.

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Cam Marino?

Ray Finkell's long lost brother.

I would bet this is Chicago trying to create a market for that pick.

My guess is Chicago wont be tangoing with us

is Schoen/Daboll views of the QB. If they think one is a franchise QB way higher that anyone else, I can see a trade for #1 slot.

Otherwise, I can even see them moving down, unless one of the WRs has separated themselves.

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Cam Marino?

Writer from Falcons Wire

needs to make peace with is yes, while it's highly likely the Giants want to trade up to a spot that affords them the opportunity to draft THEIR QB, (emphasis on their) it's also highly suspect to sit here and act like the Giants can just trade up to 3 or 4 and still "get one of the 3-4 top QBs."

It could work that way, but it usually doesn't work that way. Teams don't fall in love with 3 QBs. They fall in love with 1. Maybe they like a 2nd. Maybe.

VEry popular take around here that Schoen is going to move up to a spot to take a QB, ANY QB, and that comforts some here. That's is not a common practice. Teams trade up for their QB. They don't trade up for QBs.

when in doubt, follow the money. Bears will have to pay Fields soon and they are likely unsure they even want to pay Fields. If they were picking 10th? Different story. They are picking 1st.

BEars aren't trading away a pick when their own QB is suspect (even if you like him, he's flawed) and the top of this draft is loaded with star power QB talent. It aint happening.

Giants will trade up to the Pats spot if their QB slides to that spot. That's my prediction. And I think that guy is JJ. Pats trade down to 6 for either that 2nd rounder or a 3rd.

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Giants will trade up to the Pats spot if their QB slides to that spot. That's my prediction. And I think that guy is JJ. Pats trade down to 6 for either that 2nd rounder or a 3rd.

Except for the player you predict to be selected, which makes me ill, I agree that the #3 spot is a good target for a trade.

there is ALWAYS a price that would make it happen. Does Schoen want to pay that price, that's the question!
Also, Chicago may be fine with trading down to 6, (they can come back up for a QB if they don't have one rated higher than the rest (i.e.: they don't see Williams head and shoulders better than McCarthy for example.)

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(i.e.: they don't see Williams head and shoulders better than McCarthy for example.)

As broken as the Bears franchise has been, I don't think they are dumb enough to arrive at this conclusion.

about human nature. EVERYONE has a price, even the dumbass Bears.

If ATL, or MIN, or DEN, or LVR (who else) rate a QB high enough, they too can trade up. And if so, could thwart a NYG attempt to get their QB choice.

It boils down to how high they value the guys on the board.

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If ATL, or MIN, or DEN, or LVR (who else) rate a QB high enough, they too can trade up. And if so, could thwart a NYG attempt to get their QB choice. It boils down to how high they value the guys on the board.

The latter three teams would have to trade their 1s the next three years and 2s and then something for the next couple years to boot. They’re too far back.

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In comment 16408455 Mike from Ohio said: Quote: above the rest, I support them trading what they need to in order to land him. If they aren't right about him they will all be unemployed in a couple of years (unless John Mara takes a shine to the QB and he gets a five year scholarship). I think taking a swing and missing on a QB prospect would be a bad reason to fire a GM. The decision to take the swing is the correct decision, isn't it?

I agree it is the correct decision, but Schoen will be four years into his tenure by that point. If he trades a bunch of assets to get a QB, and that QB busts and the team is losing, you think he gets a pat on the back and another shot?

I am not talking about what should happen, I am talking about the reality of the Not For Long NFL.

In comment 16408600 Mike from Ohio said:

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In comment 16408471 Go Terps said: Quote: In comment 16408455 Mike from Ohio said: Quote: above the rest, I support them trading what they need to in order to land him. If they aren't right about him they will all be unemployed in a couple of years (unless John Mara takes a shine to the QB and he gets a five year scholarship). I think taking a swing and missing on a QB prospect would be a bad reason to fire a GM. The decision to take the swing is the correct decision, isn't it? I agree it is the correct decision, but Schoen will be four years into his tenure by that point. If he trades a bunch of assets to get a QB, and that QB busts and the team is losing, you think he gets a pat on the back and another shot? I am not talking about what should happen, I am talking about the reality of the Not For Long NFL.

I'm sure you'd be correct.

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In comment 16408455 Mike from Ohio said: Quote: above the rest, I support them trading what they need to in order to land him. If they aren't right about him they will all be unemployed in a couple of years (unless John Mara takes a shine to the QB and he gets a five year scholarship). There it is, the completely unfounded and dumb Mara take again.

I have read a few of your posts lately, and I appreciate that you and I see things very differently. It makes me feel better about my opinions. What you post is mostly ill informed, bordering on idiotic.

if a specific QB doesn't go in the top 2 (Maye???) is very possible. I don't see Chicago trading 1, nor do I see us giving what they'd likely want. 3 from NE makes a lot of sense.

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In comment 16408588 Bob in VA said: Quote: If ATL, or MIN, or DEN, or LVR (who else) rate a QB high enough, they too can trade up. And if so, could thwart a NYG attempt to get their QB choice. It boils down to how high they value the guys on the board. The latter three teams would have to trade their 1s the next three years and 2s and then something for the next couple years to boot. They’re too far back.

I agree with you, but do they? As a for-instance, in reading this board, there seem to be some who believe there are 3 or 4 (or more) QBs in this draft who are potential franchise QBs. And according to some, when there's a franchise QB to be had, and you need one, then there is (almost?) no price too high.

Fortunately, none of the posters on this board are making the decisions for the NYG; but we probably all share the same enthusiasm that the real NYG decision makers make the moves that will turn the team into winners again.

maybe they love JJ and maybe the don't love Fields. Could the two franchises have a wink wink deal where CHI drafts Williams and then the Giants draft JJ and they do the old switcherooo....we shall see.

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They are within striking distance of Williams so it would be ridiculous for them not to try. It's just common sense. And for all the shit Mara gets, if he okays this regime to make a bold move at QB a year after writing Jones a check for $82M, Mara deserves a lot of credit. A lot of owners wouldn't be okay with that.

Jones can be cut after this season so not sure why your crediting the owned. I’d say to the GM for structuring the contract this way allowing us the possibility of getting out without crippling the franchise

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Cam Marino?

I’m wondering the same thing, and who are his connections with the Giants? This could be one of those click bait pieces.

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In comment 16408551 djm said: Quote: Giants will trade up to the Pats spot if their QB slides to that spot. That's my prediction. And I think that guy is JJ. Pats trade down to 6 for either that 2nd rounder or a 3rd. Except for the player you predict to be selected, which makes me ill, I agree that the #3 spot is a good target for a trade.

Time will tell. No one knows shit at this moment.

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If ATL, or MIN, or DEN, or LVR (who else) rate a QB high enough, they too can trade up. And if so, could thwart a NYG attempt to get their QB choice. It boils down to how high they value the guys on the board.

Two teams will get Cousins and Fields. We'll see what happens there and then the dominos fall. Also have to consider Russell Wilson is heading somewhere, ala New England or Atlanta.

Signing jones instead of Barkley? I know a lot on here wouldn’t have signed either but I really wish we franchised Jones last season and signed Barkley to a 3 year 35 deal.. two more years of Barkley with a young QB would be very helpful.

Obviously if they trade up for someone with 10+ year career would be great but can’t help thinking how they screwed this up and have to trade up/lose assets when they have so many needs

or if it's Schoen doing his homework. The last two drafts saw him make trades that he had already put in place well ahead of time. I wouldn't be surprised if he's fishing around for something similar, but I wonder if the price is right.

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But who knows. The asking price would be simply massive.

Time for JS to play some poker.

the cost, Schoen and Daboll will almost certainly be fired if they trade up for a QB who busts. That is especially true since they gave Jones that ridiculous contract. Those two mistakes would mean that they likely don't know how to evaluate QBs. But they are much less likely to be fired if a QB they take at #6 busts.

Schoen and Daboll are a first-time GM and head coach. If they are fired they will likely never be a GM or head coach again.