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Mel Kiper makes BBI explode!

Amtoft : 2/26/2024 3:49 pm
Speed up to Giants pick if you don't want to watch the first 5 picks and you will see how Mel Kiper feels about Daniel Jones.
Mini Mock: Mel Kiper Jr. and Field Yates analyze picks 1-12 of the 2024 NFL draft - ( New Window )
Kiper liking DJ  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/26/2024 3:53 pm : link
only further solidifies my opinion that both of them suck at their jobs.
Who the hell is Mel Kiper Jr. anyway?  
Anakim : 2/26/2024 3:54 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/26/2024 3:54 pm : link
That old Colts GM was right about Kiper’s takes.
I am 100% mentally prepared...  
bw in dc : 2/26/2024 4:01 pm : link
for Schoen to feel exactly like Kiper.
RE: I am 100% mentally prepared...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/26/2024 4:05 pm : link
In comment 16408639 bw in dc said:
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for Schoen to feel exactly like Kiper.


Then he’s a fucking idiot who was the wrong hire.
I obviously disagree whole heartedly with Kiper  
Matt M. : 2/26/2024 4:11 pm : link
But, I would not be shocked if the Giants agreed with him.
Kiper  
Sammo85 : 2/26/2024 4:14 pm : link
has no inside info and his opinions and other reads have been erratic.
This isn't surprising considering Kiper liked Jones  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/26/2024 4:15 pm : link
In his draft year.
RE: …  
Greg from LI : 2/26/2024 4:17 pm : link
In comment 16408624 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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That old Colts GM was right about Kiper’s takes.


Bill Tobin
If QBs go 1-2-3 to the Bears, Skins and NE,  
MOOPS : 2/26/2024 4:26 pm : link
our options would be
a: JJ.
b: trade down, if you find a suitor willing to make a reasonable bid.
c: WR, OT or Edge.

Are the Giants sold on JJ?
Too early to read the tea leaves.

Its funny  
Biteymax22 : 2/26/2024 4:27 pm : link
2 weeks ago BBI felt that McCarthy was a 2nd round pick, now we're going to explode if we don't take him at 6...
RE: Its funny  
Amtoft : 2/26/2024 4:41 pm : link
In comment 16408686 Biteymax22 said:
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2 weeks ago BBI felt that McCarthy was a 2nd round pick, now we're going to explode if we don't take him at 6...


No BBI explodes because of how Kiper feels about Daniel Jones. Anyone and anything good said or written about DJ makes people here lose their minds.
BBI in one sentence  
Thegratefulhead : 2/26/2024 4:43 pm : link
Proof of idiocy is disagreement with my take.

Happens every time.
RE: RE: Its funny  
rsjem1979 : 2/26/2024 4:49 pm : link
In comment 16408709 Amtoft said:
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In comment 16408686 Biteymax22 said:


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2 weeks ago BBI felt that McCarthy was a 2nd round pick, now we're going to explode if we don't take him at 6...



No BBI explodes because of how Kiper feels about Daniel Jones. Anyone and anything good said or written about DJ makes people here lose their minds.


I can’t remember the ever caring about Mel Kipers opinion so the suggestion that anyone is going to “explode” over it is probably a bit of projection on your part.
RE: BBI in one sentence  
Sec 103 : 2/26/2024 4:49 pm : link
In comment 16408714 Thegratefulhead said:
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Proof of idiocy is disagreement with my take.

Happens every time.


100%
RE: I am 100% mentally prepared...  
ZogZerg : 2/26/2024 4:54 pm : link
In comment 16408639 bw in dc said:
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for Schoen to feel exactly like Kiper.


Not me. That would really deflate my Giants fandom.
But, getting a #1 would be nice.
RE: RE: Its funny  
Mike from Ohio : 2/26/2024 5:05 pm : link
In comment 16408709 Amtoft said:
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In comment 16408686 Biteymax22 said:


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2 weeks ago BBI felt that McCarthy was a 2nd round pick, now we're going to explode if we don't take him at 6...



No BBI explodes because of how Kiper feels about Daniel Jones. Anyone and anything good said or written about DJ makes people here lose their minds.


Not sure why you think anyone is "exploding" over what Kiper thinks about Jones. Kiper is not some universally revered pro-scout. He watches and knows college football, not NFL.
RE: RE: I am 100% mentally prepared...  
bw in dc : 2/26/2024 5:20 pm : link
In comment 16408729 ZogZerg said:
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for Schoen to feel exactly like Kiper.



Not me. That would really deflate my Giants fandom.
But, getting a #1 would be nice.


I'm preparing for the worst, hoping for the best...
RE: If QBs go 1-2-3 to the Bears, Skins and NE,  
81_Great_Dane : 2/26/2024 5:24 pm : link
In comment 16408684 MOOPS said:
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our options would be
a: JJ.
b: trade down, if you find a suitor willing to make a reasonable bid.
c: WR, OT or Edge.

Are the Giants sold on JJ?
Too early to read the tea leaves.
I dunno, I think they have countless options. They don't have to draft a QB at all, and if they do, they don't have to draft one in the first two rounds.

Schoen said they'd add a QB. Not that they'd draft a QB.

There are some things that make their situation tricky:

1) DJ is hurt a lot. They need a competent backup.

2) DJ regressed last year. They probably need a QB who can legitimately compete for the starting job. That's probably not a rookie.

3) They already have a developmental QB on the roster who was pretty good for an UDFA last season. If they draft a QB late, he's essentially competing with De Vito for the 3rd QB spot. Assuming nobody in the Giants org thinks De Vito is their future starter, their need is a guy who can play Week 1.

RE: RE: RE: I am 100% mentally prepared...  
Blue21 : 2/26/2024 5:28 pm : link
In comment 16408752 bw in dc said:
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for Schoen to feel exactly like Kiper.



Not me. That would really deflate my Giants fandom.
But, getting a #1 would be nice.



I'm preparing for the worst, hoping for the best...
Have to admit bw this is how I feel.
RE: BBI in one sentence  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/26/2024 5:48 pm : link
In comment 16408714 Thegratefulhead said:
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Proof of idiocy is disagreement with my take.

Happens every time.

So you don't think Mel Kiper is an idiot?

Or just not now that he agrees with your unpopular opinion?
Per Kiper's words, if there is a 'freak' in Odunze or Nabers  
ThomasG : 2/26/2024 5:54 pm : link
then you can be assured that we won't see it in 2024 if one of them is the pick.

Don't get me wrong though, I like both WRs a good deal and picking one of them at #6 is not a bad pick at all. It's just not really looking at and taking the problem seriously.

RE: Who the hell is Mel Kiper Jr. anyway?  
Gman11 : 2/26/2024 6:04 pm : link
In comment 16408623 Anakim said:
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He never wore a jockstrap
The title of this thread...  
Jim in Tampa : 2/26/2024 6:34 pm : link
reminds me of all those YouTube video titles where person A (destroys/humiliates/eviscerates) person B. Then you watch the video and it's some minor disagreement.

I don't think Mel Kiper's comment about Jones is going to make BBI "explode".
RE: RE: If QBs go 1-2-3 to the Bears, Skins and NE,  
MOOPS : 2/26/2024 7:08 pm : link
In comment 16408757 81_Great_Dane said:
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our options would be
a: JJ.
b: trade down, if you find a suitor willing to make a reasonable bid.
c: WR, OT or Edge.

Are the Giants sold on JJ?
Too early to read the tea leaves.


I dunno, I think they have countless options. They don't have to draft a QB at all, and if they do, they don't have to draft one in the first two rounds.

Schoen said they'd add a QB. Not that they'd draft a QB.

There are some things that make their situation tricky:

1) DJ is hurt a lot. They need a competent backup.

2) DJ regressed last year. They probably need a QB who can legitimately compete for the starting job. That's probably not a rookie.

3) They already have a developmental QB on the roster who was pretty good for an UDFA last season. If they draft a QB late, he's essentially competing with De Vito for the 3rd QB spot. Assuming nobody in the Giants org thinks De Vito is their future starter, their need is a guy who can play Week 1.


I only meant options for pick #6 if QBs go top 3 and we're not players in the game. The big 3 and JJ appear to be the only ones worthy of a high 1st round pick as it stands now. It's just a matter of how high for JJ.
I fully expect them to take a QB somewhere, but don't think Schoen will force the pick. You never know. Maybe one or two of the QBs are being put on an unwarranted pedestal now and will drop a bit.
I'm gonna try and just ignore the QB discussions for the next two months. Just not worth the endless speculation at this point.

RE: RE: Who the hell is Mel Kiper Jr. anyway?  
Bruner4329 : 2/26/2024 7:27 pm : link
In comment 16408791 Gman11 said:
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He never wore a jockstrap

Like 99% of the posters on this board
And the DJFC rejoices!  
BigBlueShock : 2/26/2024 7:36 pm : link
Because a draftnik that liked Jones coming out of college and hasn’t done an in depth analysis since the day he was drafted says he still likes him, lol. For the clueless…Kiper doesn’t break down film of NFL players. His opinion on Jones is absolutely meaningless
The pick is not shocking  
averagejoe : 2/26/2024 7:46 pm : link
Depending on which QB they bring in to take Jones job. In an open competition my sister could beat Jones out. An undrafted QB from NJ far outplayed him. It has to be McCarthy here unless they see no potential at all. I don't think that will be the case .

Kiper liking Jones is no surprise. He has no credibility for a reason .
RE: RE: RE: Its funny  
Will Shine : 2/26/2024 8:24 pm : link
In comment 16408739 Mike from Ohio said:
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Not sure why you think anyone is "exploding" over what Kiper thinks about Jones. Kiper is not some universally revered pro-scout. He watches and knows college football, not NFL.


You mean he is Jones fan cause of his play at Duke?
RE: Who the hell is Mel Kiper Jr. anyway?  
Tuckrule : 2/26/2024 8:52 pm : link
In comment 16408623 Anakim said:
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I see what you did haha
For a meaningless opinion  
Ron Johnson : 2/26/2024 8:53 pm : link
it sure did upset some people.
RE: For a meaningless opinion  
dancing blue bear : 2/26/2024 9:02 pm : link
In comment 16408903 Ron Johnson said:
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it sure did upset some people.

“Hair trigger” doesn’t do it justice
You guys just love wallowing in despair and talking about it…  
Daniel in Kentucky : 2/26/2024 10:03 pm : link
I would hate to be in your heads; waiting for a Pro DJ thread just to rant. It’s a bit weird. That’s why I don’t often post on these football threads. Very strange person to dislike a QB and post about it a few thousand times a year.
Very weird.
You guys need to get a hobby.
Beyond weird  
dancing blue bear : 2/26/2024 10:09 pm : link
It’s a sickness. But misery loves company. C’est la vie.


when Jones  
Ron Johnson : 2/26/2024 10:18 pm : link
gets them into the playoffs again the whining will be unbearable.
DJ will prove the doubters wrong  
bigblueny : 2/26/2024 11:46 pm : link
The haters sound completely unhinged. Every time. Lol.
RE: You guys just love wallowing in despair and talking about it…  
DefenseWins : 2/27/2024 5:13 am : link
In comment 16408935 Daniel in Kentucky said:
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I would hate to be in your heads; waiting for a Pro DJ thread just to rant. It’s a bit weird. That’s why I don’t often post on these football threads. Very strange person to dislike a QB and post about it a few thousand times a year.
Very weird.
You guys need to get a hobby.


+100

Most people here agree that we need a new QB. However, the group that is unhinged and obsessed fits into your description above.

For the married guys here. Did you ever agree with your wife on something but she continues to rant and rant about it every day that you find yourself wandering the aisles of Home Depot looking for a shovel and 10 bags of lime? I am bringing both to the next BBI tailgate party.
RE: You guys just love wallowing in despair and talking about it…  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/27/2024 7:31 am : link
In comment 16408935 Daniel in Kentucky said:
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I would hate to be in your heads; waiting for a Pro DJ thread just to rant. It’s a bit weird. That’s why I don’t often post on these football threads. Very strange person to dislike a QB and post about it a few thousand times a year.
Very weird.
You guys need to get a hobby.

What do you think BBI is, if not a hobby?
RE: RE: You guys just love wallowing in despair and talking about it…  
Manhattan : 2/27/2024 7:57 am : link
In comment 16408982 DefenseWins said:
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I would hate to be in your heads; waiting for a Pro DJ thread just to rant. It’s a bit weird. That’s why I don’t often post on these football threads. Very strange person to dislike a QB and post about it a few thousand times a year.
Very weird.
You guys need to get a hobby.



+100

Most people here agree that we need a new QB. However, the group that is unhinged and obsessed fits into your description above.

For the married guys here. Did you ever agree with your wife on something but she continues to rant and rant about it every day that you find yourself wandering the aisles of Home Depot looking for a shovel and 10 bags of lime? I am bringing both to the next BBI tailgate party.


Please, tell us more about your murder fantasies.
RE: RE: RE: You guys just love wallowing in despair and talking about it…  
DefenseWins : 2/27/2024 8:39 am : link
In comment 16409008 Manhattan said:
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I would hate to be in your heads; waiting for a Pro DJ thread just to rant. It’s a bit weird. That’s why I don’t often post on these football threads. Very strange person to dislike a QB and post about it a few thousand times a year.
Very weird.
You guys need to get a hobby.



+100

Most people here agree that we need a new QB. However, the group that is unhinged and obsessed fits into your description above.

For the married guys here. Did you ever agree with your wife on something but she continues to rant and rant about it every day that you find yourself wandering the aisles of Home Depot looking for a shovel and 10 bags of lime? I am bringing both to the next BBI tailgate party.



Please, tell us more about your murder fantasies.


Let's discuss at the BBI BBQ
RE: The pick is not shocking  
KingBlue : 2/27/2024 8:56 am : link
In comment 16408868 averagejoe said:
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Depending on which QB they bring in to take Jones job. In an open competition my sister could beat Jones out. An undrafted QB from NJ far outplayed him. It has to be McCarthy here unless they see no potential at all. I don't think that will be the case .

Kiper liking Jones is no surprise. He has no credibility for a reason .


I like Kiper... and I disagree with your take that he has no credibility... even if I don't agree with this particular stance from Mel.
RE: RE: RE: RE: You guys just love wallowing in despair and talking about it…  
Manhattan : 2/27/2024 9:10 am : link
In comment 16409043 DefenseWins said:
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I would hate to be in your heads; waiting for a Pro DJ thread just to rant. It’s a bit weird. That’s why I don’t often post on these football threads. Very strange person to dislike a QB and post about it a few thousand times a year.
Very weird.
You guys need to get a hobby.



+100

Most people here agree that we need a new QB. However, the group that is unhinged and obsessed fits into your description above.

For the married guys here. Did you ever agree with your wife on something but she continues to rant and rant about it every day that you find yourself wandering the aisles of Home Depot looking for a shovel and 10 bags of lime? I am bringing both to the next BBI tailgate party.



Please, tell us more about your murder fantasies.



Let's discuss at the BBI BBQ


I'm afraid to ask what's on the menu.
RE: RE: I am 100% mentally prepared...  
FStubbs : 2/27/2024 9:25 am : link
In comment 16408641 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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for Schoen to feel exactly like Kiper.



Then he’s a fucking idiot who was the wrong hire.


I've said this before, but it's not impossible that Schoen was hired because Mara wanted a GM who was sold on Jones.
RE: RE: RE: I am 100% mentally prepared...  
Manhattan : 2/27/2024 9:27 am : link
In comment 16409097 FStubbs said:
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for Schoen to feel exactly like Kiper.



Then he’s a fucking idiot who was the wrong hire.



I've said this before, but it's not impossible that Schoen was hired because Mara wanted a GM who was sold on Jones.


I would say open to giving him a chance, not sold, since the first thing Schoen did was turn down the 5th yr option.
RE: RE: You guys just love wallowing in despair and talking about it…  
rsjem1979 : 2/27/2024 9:29 am : link
In comment 16408982 DefenseWins said:
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I would hate to be in your heads; waiting for a Pro DJ thread just to rant. It’s a bit weird. That’s why I don’t often post on these football threads. Very strange person to dislike a QB and post about it a few thousand times a year.
Very weird.
You guys need to get a hobby.



+100

Most people here agree that we need a new QB. However, the group that is unhinged and obsessed fits into your description above.

For the married guys here. Did you ever agree with your wife on something but she continues to rant and rant about it every day that you find yourself wandering the aisles of Home Depot looking for a shovel and 10 bags of lime? I am bringing both to the next BBI tailgate party.


Who's unhinged?
RE: DJ will prove the doubters wrong  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/27/2024 10:20 am : link
In comment 16408977 bigblueny said:
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The haters sound completely unhinged. Every time. Lol.

DJ "doubters" are like people who "doubt" that it's going to snow in Furnace Creek.
Peter King saying something similar  
David B. : 2/27/2024 11:00 am : link
Not that it's going to change anyone's oppinion.
Peter King hasn't 'trusted' New York Giants office until now - ( New Window )
RE: DJ will prove the doubters wrong  
nygiantfan : 2/27/2024 11:04 am : link
In comment 16408977 bigblueny said:
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The haters sound completely unhinged. Every time. Lol.


Another name for DJ Doubter is the average NFL football fan.

A fan that knows that 62 touchdown passes and 42 interceptions over 60 career games is simply awful production out of today's QB position.
RE: Peter King saying something similar  
kickoff : 2/27/2024 1:55 pm : link
In comment 16409236 David B. said:
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Not that it's going to change anyone's oppinion. Peter King hasn't 'trusted' New York Giants office until now - ( New Window )


Iooks like the DJHC has another DJ shill in Peter King, they can add him to, Eli, Simms, Banks, Tiki, Papa, etc.
RE: RE: RE: Who the hell is Mel Kiper Jr. anyway?  
kickoff : 2/27/2024 2:01 pm : link
In comment 16408854 Bruner4329 said:
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Bruner, You beat me to it.



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He never wore a jockstrap


Like 99% of the posters on this board
RE: RE: RE: RE: Who the hell is Mel Kiper Jr. anyway?  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/27/2024 2:13 pm : link
In comment 16409599 kickoff said:
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Bruner, You beat me to it.



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He never wore a jockstrap


Like 99% of the posters on this board


Paul, your part goes outside the quote block.
RE: RE: You guys just love wallowing in despair and talking about it…  
NormanAllen_95 : 2/27/2024 5:00 pm : link
In comment 16409000 Gatorade Dunk said:
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I would hate to be in your heads; waiting for a Pro DJ thread just to rant. It’s a bit weird. That’s why I don’t often post on these football threads. Very strange person to dislike a QB and post about it a few thousand times a year.
Very weird.
You guys need to get a hobby.


What do you think BBI is, if not a hobby?


Lol, brutal truth can be brutal.


While the post from Daniel holds water, Dunk brings back to reality what all of this is.
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