to get Williams (they have Klingsbury as their OC)?
That would mean Chicago moves back (staying with Fields) to #2. The assumption here would be that MHJ becomes the choice for the Bears at 2.
Now you sit at #3 with both Daniels and Maye still available. I think the #3 becomes a much more reasonable move up target as NE could gain some draft capital and still get a QB at 6 if that is what they want to do.
I am really starting to see us targeting #3 unless we want Williams so badly we jump to 1.
Now, in that same scenario, if the Pats hold steady at 3 and take a QB (Maye or Daniels) then we may have to move to 4 or 5 to ensure we get the remaining QB (if we have them equal).
I do NOT think the three teams at the top now, will be the three teams picking 1-2-3 when draft night arrives.
They could still be taking a QB and trading Fields.
* that is weird. An assumption is me saying "let's assume.. I could have said let's assume they move again..
They could still be taking a QB and trading Fields.
How can an assumption be invalid without the proof yet. It is a valid "assumption" just as your assumption they trade again or trade Fields..
**If they move off #1, they are NOT trading Fields..
I think if Williams/Maye go 1/2, there is a decent shot Daniels falls to the Giants.
I think if Williams/Maye go 1/2, there is a decent shot Daniels falls to the Giants.
If they get an offer from the Commies, they will ask who the Commies will be taking. If it does not affect what the Bears want do, then they trade, take the extra picks(s) and still get their target.
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QB2. Plus they get picks from Washington, plus they can deal Fields for additional picks. The point is, they have a lot of options.
I think if Williams/Maye go 1/2, there is a decent shot Daniels falls to the Giants.
If they get an offer from the Commies, they will ask who the Commies will be taking. If it does not affect what the Bears want do, then they trade, take the extra picks(s) and still get their target.
My guess is that if someone trades up to #1 it will happen WELL before draft day and will not disclose who they are taking. The Bears can make an assumption on who they would take but that is all it would be.
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QB2. Plus they get picks from Washington, plus they can deal Fields for additional picks. The point is, they have a lot of options.
I think if Williams/Maye go 1/2, there is a decent shot Daniels falls to the Giants.
If they get an offer from the Commies, they will ask who the Commies will be taking. If it does not affect what the Bears want do, then they trade, take the extra picks(s) and still get their target.
My guess is that if someone trades up to #1 it will happen WELL before draft day and will not disclose who they are taking. The Bears can make an assumption on who they would take but that is all it would be.
No way the Bears trade without knowing exactly who it is the Commies are taking. If there is a conflict, the Bears do not trade. If they want Maye and so do the Commies, they are not trading. They don't have to worry about being jumped.
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In comment 16409045 Manhattan said:
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QB2. Plus they get picks from Washington, plus they can deal Fields for additional picks. The point is, they have a lot of options.
I think if Williams/Maye go 1/2, there is a decent shot Daniels falls to the Giants.
If they get an offer from the Commies, they will ask who the Commies will be taking. If it does not affect what the Bears want do, then they trade, take the extra picks(s) and still get their target.
My guess is that if someone trades up to #1 it will happen WELL before draft day and will not disclose who they are taking. The Bears can make an assumption on who they would take but that is all it would be.
No way the Bears trade without knowing exactly who it is the Commies are taking. If there is a conflict, the Bears do not trade. If they want Maye and so do the Commies, they are not trading. They don't have to worry about being jumped.
It's always a risk. Washington is not compelled to tell the truth. Plus if they make the trade before draft day as Capt Don suggests, and I think he's right, Wash has the prerogative to change their minds. I will say this however, the #1 guy has long been Williams, and if Wash wants to trade up, the Bears will have a very good idea they want Williams, esp with Kingsbury in the fold there. The sale is, you want Williams? So do the Giants, the Pats, The Falcons, etc. They can keep the price up. If the Bears tip their hands and say we prefer Maye, their negotiating leverage goes way down.
No way the Bears trade without knowing exactly who it is the Commies are taking. If there is a conflict, the Bears do not trade. If they want Maye and so do the Commies, they are not trading. They don't have to worry about being jumped.
I love when people speak in absolutes on topics they have no inside information about.
Last year the Panthers traded for the #1 pick in early March. There is "no way" they would box themselves in to taking Bryce Young at that point. Maybe they had an idea that he was the guy but there is "no way" they would've guaranteed the Bears that he would be the pick. Not a chance.
Maybe you get that assurance of who the pick will be if you are on the clock but not over a month before the draft. Too much could happen.
What if he shits the bed at his pro day and another guy looks great. Or he turns you off in interviews? What if he hurts himself during the evaluation process. Or, what if your medical team sees something that is lingering from the season?
If they have 3 QBs rated about the same, they could try to do this.