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WBG84 @WBG84 "The headliner of the running back free agent class is New York Giants star Saquon Barkley, who has targeted the Texans as his top potential destination and has been communicating with Stroud, per league sources." - @AaronWilson_NFL #NYGiants #Texans |
Terrible decision. No defense for it.
They should have franchised Jones and let Barkley walk at that point.
You can get a very good RB and TE with those 3rd rounders - maybe even a OG or DT...
The Giants are 34-64-1 since they drafted Barkley, so I'd bet on you losing.
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Won’t be losing sleep over this.
You won’t be losing any sleep because — without Saquon Barkley — the Giants offense will be going into complete snooze mode. Sleep well.
As opposed to the last five years?
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the Giants had TWO wins by Halloween. TWO.
Didn't need the reminder but thanks.
So I guess we don't care about the important questions like what was offered for Barkley...and whether a mid round pick is worth it. Sounds like they want to keep him here and value his 24 season more than the mid round pick. But who knows.
It’s better than whatever the comp pick would be if they even get one. They’d also have that pick now, that would help with moving up for a QB
I'd be willing to wager a large sum of money on that.
Eric - why can we safely assume that?
You don't trade the face of the franchise when you are still alive mathematically for a playoff spot...
;)
But the 2025 3rd round compensatory pick (at best; probably 4th or worse in reality) definitely makes up for chasing a playoff berth that wasn't technically eliminated, but had been effectively crushed weeks earlier.
Just another half-measure from East Rutherford. Either keep him and KEEP him, or get something for him when you have the chance if you're going to let him walk anyway.
Good question about not trading him. The three games he was out might be the worst three game stretch of RB production in decades. Maybe that was a factor.
Big change in offensive productivity when he came back. I think a reasonable chance at least Daboll might have been fired if the offense stayed on the course it was w/o SB.
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but who do you replace him with? There's nobody on the current roster that is as good as Barkley.
Doesn't seem to matter to so many here. Addition by subtraction!
Except it is just subtraction.
And their shit runs down hill into the GM, coach, and all the fans like us.
"Saquon Barkley has said he does not want to be traded, and Brian Daboll attempted to squash trade overtures last week by saying a deal was “not happening.” But teams are still checking in. Clubs have continued to contact the Giants on Barkley, Jeff Howe of The Athletic tweets. Once again, the Giants rebuffed inquiries, with CBS Sports’ Josina Anderson confirming teams have received no’s on Barkley inquiries." https://www.profootballrumors.com/2023/10/teams-calling-giants-on-saquon-barkley - ( New Window )
Because the Maratocracy reigns supreme. Trumps all other logical factors.
"Sir, I'd like to buy your car for $1,000."
"No thank you. I'm going to drive it two blocks to a cliff and then push it off instead of taking less than what it is worth."
"But I will always have those two blocks..."
Seems like someone is trying to drum up a market for Barkley to me.
I will hold out hope he'll be back.
I will hold out hope he'll be back.
The offense was boring & horrific even with Saquon.
My understanding is, the team remains open to multiple options, including memorializing Barkley’s potential legacy as a NY Giant, pending an agreement on mutual terms.
(Upon the departure Saquon Barkley from the Giants)
That Misters Joshua Harris, Jeffrey Robert Lurie and Jerral Wayne Jones individually send a letter of appreciation and a box of Masters Series Enriquestuardo chocolates ($8500.00)
to the distinguished New York Football Giants General Manager,
(expressing sincere gratitude and acknowledgement) for indulgences rendered to Mr. Joseph Schoen to the following address ...
1925 Giants Drive
East Rutherford, Nee Jersey
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me again why he wasn't traded before the deadline?
"Saquon Barkley has said he does not want to be traded, and Brian Daboll attempted to squash trade overtures last week by saying a deal was “not happening.” But teams are still checking in. Clubs have continued to contact the Giants on Barkley, Jeff Howe of The Athletic tweets. Once again, the Giants rebuffed inquiries, with CBS Sports’ Josina Anderson confirming teams have received no’s on Barkley inquiries." https://www.profootballrumors.com/2023/10/teams-calling-giants-on-saquon-barkley - ( New Window )
Because the Giants didn’t want it to seem like they were raising the white flag on a fort which admittedly had already been breached on all four walls.
Well slap my ass and call me Sally, they sure had me fooled...
He will be good on an established team. It’s clear he can’t carry a team. For a guy that can break a big play anytime he rarely does it.
I’d like to see a different back in the Bradshaw mode than runs angry.
I couldn’t give those things away…finally got an offer that wasn’t insulting so we jumped.
After last year and a potential addition of SB…Looks like I left money on the table.
Texans fans will love him
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I’m told the #Giants and RB Saquon Barkley’s representatives had a ‘good (initial) meeting’ on Wednesday at the Scouting Combine, per source.
My understanding is, the team remains open to multiple options, including memorializing Barkley’s potential legacy as a NY Giant, pending an agreement on mutual terms.
This screams Mara all but telling Schoen to bring back Saquon because Saquon sells merch & all that jazz.
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ill take the player. You guys can have 2 3rd rounders for my one player. Let's see who wins.
The Giants are 34-64-1 since they drafted Barkley, so I'd bet on you losing.
16-15-1 the last 2 years with the new regime so does that mean they should view him as a winning player?
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I’m told the #Giants and RB Saquon Barkley’s representatives had a ‘good (initial) meeting’ on Wednesday at the Scouting Combine, per source.
My understanding is, the team remains open to multiple options, including memorializing Barkley’s potential legacy as a NY Giant, pending an agreement on mutual terms.
First, he doubled down on Jones. And now, Schoen might double down on Barkley.
Gettleman, V2, here we come.
Just wait for the triple down on Jones...
I've been conducting that train since last off-season, welcome aboard!
However, I do think the Jones contract & us possibly reupping Saquon @ an absurd price for an often injured 27 year old RB...John is running the show.
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If Barkley leaves and the Giants recoup no compensation, how Schoen handled last offseason deserves serious criticism.
I've been conducting that train since last off-season, welcome aboard!
some of his $ decisions were mind boggling. barkley and love the 2 most.
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I’m told the #Giants and RB Saquon Barkley’s representatives had a ‘good (initial) meeting’ on Wednesday at the Scouting Combine, per source.
My understanding is, the team remains open to multiple options, including memorializing Barkley’s potential legacy as a NY Giant, pending an agreement on mutual
As for Saquon, I think Mara views him as the 'face of the franchise' who puts asses in seats & sells merch. Never mind we haven't done shit since he's been drafted.
I keep going back to this quote after the Vikes WC win: "We're back!"-John Mara.
As for Saquon, I think Mara views him as the 'face of the franchise' who puts asses in seats & sells merch. Never mind we haven't done shit since he's been drafted.
I keep going back to this quote after the Vikes WC win: "We're back!"-John Mara.
You and others should calm down about the Minnesota game. Playoff wins are hard to come by in the NFL. Jones and Barkley shouldn’t be the future here but it’s not because they weren’t awesome in that game, they were.
2022 was a fun season that included a nice playoff win. Nothing more, nothing less.
As for Saquon, I think Mara views him as the 'face of the franchise' who puts asses in seats & sells merch. Never mind we haven't done shit since he's been drafted.
I keep going back to this quote after the Vikes WC win: "We're back!"-John Mara.
Johnny Boy is a mealy mouth know nothing, but he believes that he’s a know everything. The fact this putrid franchise is even entertaining another contract is criminal. But, Johnny Boy continues to call the shots.
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ill take the player. You guys can have 2 3rd rounders for my one player. Let's see who wins.
The Giants are 34-64-1 since they drafted Barkley, so I'd bet on you losing.
16-15-1 the last 2 years with the new regime so does that mean they should view him as a winning player?
The Giants are 15-18-1 the last two years. 16-19-1 if you count the postseason.
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I’m told the #Giants and RB Saquon Barkley’s representatives had a ‘good (initial) meeting’ on Wednesday at the Scouting Combine, per source.
My understanding is, the team remains open to multiple options, including memorializing Barkley’s potential legacy as a NY Giant, pending an agreement on mutual
This 100 percent came from Barkley’s camp. They need to keep Giants in mix to get any market off ground over next couple weeks.
As for Saquon, I think Mara views him as the 'face of the franchise' who puts asses in seats & sells merch. Never mind we haven't done shit since he's been drafted.
I keep going back to this quote after the Vikes WC win: "We're back!"-John Mara.
To think I remember you started a thread last March about being happy for Jones getting his money. A lot sure has changed, ha!
Anyone want to take a guess how many of those 58 regular seasons were playoff game winning seasons? 10. 10 out of 58.
My bar has lowered to any season the Giants win a playoff game is a successful season. I'm glad the Giants didn't trade Barkley mid season in 2022. I'll gladly take the playoff win even though it stuck the Giants with Daniel Jones horrible contract and another year of Barkley on the franchise tag.
I have no doubt that the GM and HC know that Jones isn't the guy to go forward with after the two injuries last year and that Barkley has lost a step or more.
I am hopeful they let Barkley leave and that whoever they draft at QB quickly replaces Jones and the Giants release him when 2024 is over.
16-15-1 the last 2 years with the new regime so does that mean they should view him as a winning player?
The Giants are 15-18-1 the last two years. 16-19-1 if you count the postseason.
correct they were 0-4 in the games barkley missed. 3 injured with the ankle, 1 they held him out of bc they already clinched in 2022.
if your point is injuries, among all starting players, all positions, do you think missing 3 out of 36 games due to injury is better or worse than average?
weird and totally not arbitrary to take out a bunch of games barkley was key to winning.
I think a lot of us last year were happy for him given all the shit he's gotten, so in a brief moment after that Vikings game a lot of this fanbase embraced Jones.
It's what it is. Another QB will be brought in here, probably 2.
A 28 year old running back does not fit a rebuilding team.
If Barkley returns he does so with the stamp of Mara.