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Barkley targeting the Texans as a FA destination?

Sean : 2/29/2024 3:57 pm
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"The headliner of the running back free agent class is New York Giants star Saquon Barkley, who has targeted the Texans as his top potential destination and has been communicating with Stroud, per league sources." -
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Hard pass on Bowers at 6  
ajr2456 : 3/1/2024 10:35 am : link
No offense to him. Only all time great TEs seem to have a bigger impact than a top end WR, so banking on Bowers being Kelce/Gronk isn’t a risk I’m willing to take.
RE: Hard pass on Bowers at 6  
JT039 : 3/1/2024 10:36 am : link
In comment 16412761 ajr2456 said:
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No offense to him. Only all time great TEs seem to have a bigger impact than a top end WR, so banking on Bowers being Kelce/Gronk isn’t a risk I’m willing to take.


Fair.

But I am in the mindset that a Bowers and maybe Worthy/Coleman/Leggete in the second round can be very exciting for the future. We all want that big time passing game. The more weapons the better.
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christian : 3/1/2024 10:42 am : link
In comment 16412697 Eric on Li said:
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If Barkley is the 69 rush yards per game back he was last year, I'd take my chances on a day 2 rookie and a tier 2 UFA.

If Waller is the perennially injured part-time players he's proven to be, I'd invest the 50M in cap holds he now represents over the three years as *part* of the investment in a UFA WR.

what UFA WR do you see on the market you like? pls dont type gabe davis.


The WR I'd keep an eye on is Ridley, but if the UFA market spirals, then my preference would be a TE like Schultz.

More than anything, I'm way more bullish on the Giants pass catchers than most. I don't think there is a huge vacuum to fill if Waller is cut.
RE: RE: Barkley could be this years Miles Sanders too.  
ajr2456 : 3/1/2024 10:44 am : link
In comment 16412758 Eric on Li said:
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if your offering odds on barkley producing more than sanders did in 2023 in 2024 im all ears and happy to take them.


Barkley may already be heading that way. Barkley’s been a 3.9 YPC back since midway through 2022. Sanders averaged 3.3 YPC last year, that’s an 140 yard difference over Barkley’s 247 carries.

The same excuses that were made for Barkley earlier in the thread (oline, QB) apply to Sanders too.

Even if the oline and QB improve, is it worth banking $22-$30 million on an oft injured RB to stay healthy and reclaim his elite production through age 27-30? Or is it a better idea to spend half that on a player who has performed, albeit on a small sample size, on some bad offensive lines in Detroit?

If Barkley and Swift were signing for the same contract, the obvious answer would be Barkley. However the price difference is going to be at least 50% if not more.
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ajr2456 : 3/1/2024 10:46 am : link
In comment 16412778 christian said:
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In comment 16412697 Eric on Li said:


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If Barkley is the 69 rush yards per game back he was last year, I'd take my chances on a day 2 rookie and a tier 2 UFA.

If Waller is the perennially injured part-time players he's proven to be, I'd invest the 50M in cap holds he now represents over the three years as *part* of the investment in a UFA WR.

what UFA WR do you see on the market you like? pls dont type gabe davis.



The WR I'd keep an eye on is Ridley, but if the UFA market spirals, then my preference would be a TE like Schultz.

More than anything, I'm way more bullish on the Giants pass catchers than most. I don't think there is a huge vacuum to fill if Waller is cut.


Agreed. There’s no rush to immediately replace Waller, he didn’t bring much to the table last year
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Eric on Li : 3/1/2024 10:46 am : link
In comment 16412778 christian said:
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In comment 16412697 Eric on Li said:


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If Barkley is the 69 rush yards per game back he was last year, I'd take my chances on a day 2 rookie and a tier 2 UFA.

If Waller is the perennially injured part-time players he's proven to be, I'd invest the 50M in cap holds he now represents over the three years as *part* of the investment in a UFA WR.

what UFA WR do you see on the market you like? pls dont type gabe davis.



The WR I'd keep an eye on is Ridley, but if the UFA market spirals, then my preference would be a TE like Schultz.

More than anything, I'm way more bullish on the Giants pass catchers than most. I don't think there is a huge vacuum to fill if Waller is cut.


i agree about waller. bellinger is a solid player so they have part of the answer.

ridley is ironically projected to get the same contract waller signed a few years ago (3x51m, 30m gtd). id be ok with that but id also bet the over.
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christian : 3/1/2024 10:52 am : link
I'd bet he gets more as well.

I imagine 3/60 with a little more than half guaranteed is a closer target.
RE: Hard pass on Bowers at 6  
bw in dc : 3/1/2024 11:00 am : link
In comment 16412761 ajr2456 said:
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No offense to him. Only all time great TEs seem to have a bigger impact than a top end WR, so banking on Bowers being Kelce/Gronk isn’t a risk I’m willing to take.


I tend to agree. But I think Bowers is one of the top three players in this draft. For two years, he's been catching balls and literally running away from SEC DBs like he's in the Conference USA. He runs like a gazelle.
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