I'm a big fan of Pat on NFL Radio and he's not a guy who says things for shock value.
But CW's actions at the Combine really troubled him. I'm paraphrasing, but here is the gist:
- The comments about Chicago sound rehearsed and phony. And other GMs felt similarly.
- Not doing the medical is a red flag and reflects on CW's decision making in general. Just not acting like a grown up.
- Comes off too much like he plays an individual sport, not a team sport.
- Concerned that the $10M in NIL money might not be the best thing because it could change his perspective about what's expected of him as an NFL QB.
- Thinks CW's actions here could create an opening for Daniels to get even closer to the #1 pick.
Just some more perspective to consider from a guy with 30+ years of NFL experience...
The results of the medical can and would be a factor in whether the team would actually want to draft you at all let alone at the top of the draft.
I would not spend the draft capital and money on a player if I cannot see whether he is healthy right now.
IMO I would be pissed if the Giants did not select a QB high in this draft. I would be equally pissed if they selected this QB.
More faux outrage. He's doing medicals with teams in position to draft him. So you can dispel the notion that if the Giants move into position to draft him, they won't be able to check out his medicals.
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I think you need to figure out the definition of outrage. I simply stated my opinion. I am not outraged about anything that I read on BBI.
So, it is not outrage, nor is it faux. Are you suggesting that I was faking being outraged when my post did not even suggest that I was outraged?
Any therapists or English teachers here on BBI who can help?
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I think you need to figure out the definition of outrage. I simply stated my opinion. I am not outraged about anything that I read on BBI.
So, it is not outrage, nor is it faux. Are you suggesting that I was faking being outraged when my post did not even suggest that I was outraged?
Any therapists or English teachers here on BBI who can help?
Ok. Then you're just misinformed. Any team with a shot to draft him gets medicals.
Lol.
He's good but some people are acting like he'll be Mahomes right away.
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So this interview matters? lol. What a clown.
It's a clear, direct set of answers. Not just a jock who looks lost. If you can't see it, you have bigger problems than what crops up on a message board. You should stop harrassing people who have different opinions then you. You're coming across as an angry, ignorant, unlikable bully. This is the last I'll address you until you can manage to figure out what the words civility and collegiality mean.
You attack anyone who says something negative about Caleb Williams. You “producer “ nothing but hit attacks and shit.
Get a mirror buddy.
Will be interesting to see how this all works out for him but I have to believe that some coaches who run a tight, team oriented program are going to get turned off by the guy, regardless of his talent.
I only hope he doesn’t fall to #6.
I’m more alarmed by MHJ skipping an actual commitment than any of the CW flags listed here (though he’s had many flags pop up through the year). Pretty safe bet that he’s not falling anywhere close to 6. It’s equally safe to assume that teams picking top-5 don’t run a tight ship :-)
First, Williams has no agent. A number of people in the media have been speculating for some time that he was going to be the subject of media attacks by teams hoping to drive his draft position down and agents looking to push their clients up. With no agent, he has no one to go attack the story or put their own counter attack out there to protect the client.
Second, people forget that sports media is a relationship business. Kirwan is not immune to that. He gets fed a story enough and he’ll run with it. I have no doubt that there are teams that are turned off by his decision- but most of this is faux outrage designed to fill two months before the draft, as well as to help teams trying to create doubt for the Bears. Remember there are several clubs (including the Giants) who would benefit if the Bears decided Williams will be too much.
Third, to remain productive, Kirwan needs leaks and info. Like most journalists in sports, he is not above carrying someone’s water for them if it gets him the story. This has all the making of a “hit piece” that gets him some favors to call in closer to the draft. Is this one of those stories that sinks a player like the Tunsal pot mask? No- but it advances the agenda of several teams and agents- and Kirwan will be able to circle back in April for better stuff.
Finally, Kirwan is “old school” media. Many of these guys have a LOT of trouble relating to the new generation of player and are legitimately turned off by some of the things they do and the decisions they make. In many ways, when I read the story, I had the meme image of old man waving fist at a cloud in my mind.
Bottom line- this thread has been a fascinating Rorschach test of fan’s thoughts on Williams. however, what is missing in all the strum and fury is the understanding of the likely situation. Instead, it has done exactly what whoever fed Kirwan the story intended- General disparagement of Williams and his character, in hope hope that it either causes the Bears to pass on him or trade out of the pick.
rich, there is no doubt Williams is a little "strange" and it could be the immaturity of a 21 y/o. The lack of an agent doesn't help, for sure.
So Pat Kirwan is just carrying water for some unnamed organization hoping Williams falls? I doubt it. What team is going to fall for this kind of "hit piece" now that Gettleman is gone!
CW is really correct to limit his physicals to the top 6-8 teams(or even fewer). Doubt anyone else has a chance to move up to #1.
I will always remember(and doubted) the hoopla of Eli Apple and his "red flag" of being a momma's boy and how it turned out to be prescient. I will acknowledge that 95% of people say he is the best QB in the draft. Same was said of Jeff George and arguably Ryan Leaf...I am not saying CW is at that level, but buyer needs to be aware. And what is to say that a few GMS didn't grumble about CW's behavior?
It is lying season. Perhaps Kirwan is flushing out which teams are truly interested. Perhaps he is just reporting what he is hearing because it does generate clicks...
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rich, there is no doubt Williams is a little "strange" and it could be the immaturity of a 21 y/o. The lack of an agent doesn't help, for sure.
So Pat Kirwan is just carrying water for some unnamed organization hoping Williams falls? I doubt it. What team is going to fall for this kind of "hit piece" now that Gettleman is gone!
CW is really correct to limit his physicals to the top 6-8 teams(or even fewer). Doubt anyone else has a chance to move up to #1.
I will always remember(and doubted) the hoopla of Eli Apple and his "red flag" of being a momma's boy and how it turned out to be prescient. I will acknowledge that 95% of people say he is the best QB in the draft. Same was said of Jeff George and arguably Ryan Leaf...I am not saying CW is at that level, but buyer needs to be aware. And what is to say that a few GMS didn't grumble about CW's behavior?
It is lying season. Perhaps Kirwan is flushing out which teams are truly interested. Perhaps he is just reporting what he is hearing because it does generate clicks...
Kirwan typically doesn’t behave like a click bait guy. Also, the NFL combine isn’t 32 docs prodding you. Do I think an agent for another QB could be spreading every “red flag”, yes, but I also think that any NFL team that is even halfway competent knows about the risks already. It isn’t like the movie Draft Day where you suddenly learn things as the draft is almost about to start.
First, Williams has no agent. A number of people in the media have been speculating for some time that he was going to be the subject of media attacks by teams hoping to drive his draft position down and agents looking to push their clients up. With no agent, he has no one to go attack the story or put their own counter attack out there to protect the client.
Second, people forget that sports media is a relationship business. Kirwan is not immune to that. He gets fed a story enough and he’ll run with it. I have no doubt that there are teams that are turned off by his decision- but most of this is faux outrage designed to fill two months before the draft, as well as to help teams trying to create doubt for the Bears. Remember there are several clubs (including the Giants) who would benefit if the Bears decided Williams will be too much.
Third, to remain productive, Kirwan needs leaks and info. Like most journalists in sports, he is not above carrying someone’s water for them if it gets him the story. This has all the making of a “hit piece” that gets him some favors to call in closer to the draft. Is this one of those stories that sinks a player like the Tunsal pot mask? No- but it advances the agenda of several teams and agents- and Kirwan will be able to circle back in April for better stuff.
Finally, Kirwan is “old school” media. Many of these guys have a LOT of trouble relating to the new generation of player and are legitimately turned off by some of the things they do and the decisions they make. In many ways, when I read the story, I had the meme image of old man waving fist at a cloud in my mind.
Bottom line- this thread has been a fascinating Rorschach test of fan’s thoughts on Williams. however, what is missing in all the strum and fury is the understanding of the likely situation. Instead, it has done exactly what whoever fed Kirwan the story intended- General disparagement of Williams and his character, in hope hope that it either causes the Bears to pass on him or trade out of the pick.
There is truth in much of what you just said. But you are also spinning it to suit one side.
What do we know as FACT? Caleb is already a millionaire several times over. Caleb has refused to hire a professional agent. Caleb has refused to take a medical exam.
There are reports that he was not well liked by teammates at USC. He didn't handle losing well from an emotional perspective (yes, how you conduct yourself in public matters after a loss). He did show up at the Combine with an entourage.
So these things are not subjective. They happened. I think it is safe to say, at the very least, there are some entitlement and emotional issues to consider.
Is Kirwan being used to spread disinformation? Possibly. Possibly not.
But does is seem so out of character based on what we already know?
Pat and Jim are tremendous. They really try to keep their program focused on football - strategy, team building (cap/personnel), game review. They aren't doing a show like Russo, Cowherd, Smith, Bayless, etc. It's much dryer.
So, Pat laid out the issues with CW that he thought were problematic and then moved on to interviewing Maye and Tez Walker. In other words, he didn't keep beating the drum to make his comments the theme of the show.
Posters can draw any conclusions they want, but this was far from an agenda thing with Pat.
BUT, we have seen all-world talents implode because they can't do the latter. You don't have to go back to Ryan Leaf.
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It’s actually kind of funny to read this thread and how everyone is using this to somehow further their own personal narratives about the player without actually stopping to remember several underlying points.
First, Williams has no agent. A number of people in the media have been speculating for some time that he was going to be the subject of media attacks by teams hoping to drive his draft position down and agents looking to push their clients up. With no agent, he has no one to go attack the story or put their own counter attack out there to protect the client.
Second, people forget that sports media is a relationship business. Kirwan is not immune to that. He gets fed a story enough and he’ll run with it. I have no doubt that there are teams that are turned off by his decision- but most of this is faux outrage designed to fill two months before the draft, as well as to help teams trying to create doubt for the Bears. Remember there are several clubs (including the Giants) who would benefit if the Bears decided Williams will be too much.
Third, to remain productive, Kirwan needs leaks and info. Like most journalists in sports, he is not above carrying someone’s water for them if it gets him the story. This has all the making of a “hit piece” that gets him some favors to call in closer to the draft. Is this one of those stories that sinks a player like the Tunsal pot mask? No- but it advances the agenda of several teams and agents- and Kirwan will be able to circle back in April for better stuff.
Finally, Kirwan is “old school” media. Many of these guys have a LOT of trouble relating to the new generation of player and are legitimately turned off by some of the things they do and the decisions they make. In many ways, when I read the story, I had the meme image of old man waving fist at a cloud in my mind.
Bottom line- this thread has been a fascinating Rorschach test of fan’s thoughts on Williams. however, what is missing in all the strum and fury is the understanding of the likely situation. Instead, it has done exactly what whoever fed Kirwan the story intended- General disparagement of Williams and his character, in hope hope that it either causes the Bears to pass on him or trade out of the pick.
There is truth in much of what you just said. But you are also spinning it to suit one side.
What do we know as FACT? Caleb is already a millionaire several times over. Caleb has refused to hire a professional agent. Caleb has refused to take a medical exam.
There are reports that he was not well liked by teammates at USC. He didn't handle losing well from an emotional perspective (yes, how you conduct yourself in public matters after a loss). He did show up at the Combine with an entourage.
So these things are not subjective. They happened. I think it is safe to say, at the very least, there are some entitlement and emotional issues to consider.
Is Kirwan being used to spread disinformation? Possibly. Possibly not.
But does is seem so out of character based on what we already know?
There are no credible reports that Williams was not well liked or respected by teammates. All there is, is conjecture by Twitter warriors regarding interviews and sideline footage where he is not mentioned at all. All reports regarding his leadership, where he is mentioned by name, are glowing. And the backup QB who, it is said, disparaged him, though he isn't mentioned and you have to do some dot connecting to make it about Williams, this same player tweeted that he loves CW and thanks him for helping and supporting him. So the leadership/locker room character issue, is not a data point working against CW.
I'd strongly suggest anyone who has read the headlines and think there's smoke, to watch the interview with Florio and Simms. And honestly say that guy seems like he has bad judgement or is emotionally immature.
I'm embarrassed I'm so naive that I didn't understand why he's refusing to do broad medicals.
It's the only leverage he has to control what team picks him. He's only giving access to his body to teams he's willing to play for. This eliminates the chance a team he doesn't want to go from trading up with the Bears.
I'd strongly suggest anyone who has read the headlines and think there's smoke, to watch the interview with Florio and Simms. And honestly say that guy seems like he has bad judgement or is emotionally immature.
I'm embarrassed I'm so naive that I didn't understand why he's refusing to do broad medicals.
It's the only leverage he has to control what team picks him. He's only giving access to his body to teams he's willing to play for. This eliminates the chance a team he doesn't want to go from trading up with the Bears.
yes. The interview posted here by BW shows a thoughtful kid who appears to be mature beyond his age. Look, Williams rubs some people the wrong way, especially culture warriors. They want him to fail because he doesn't look to them like he will be a good soldier. He doesn't conform to their idea of what a hard-nosed, obedient, leader of men, should be. I don't put a lot of weight to these personality cliches. But maybe he'll be a great artist who can transform a team that way. Well those same critics who think it takes a soldier, don't want artists to succeed.
LOL
His draft position is slotted, and his father is a managing partner in an elite athletic training program. He's also already represented by a major marketing firm. The normal responsibilities of an agent - contract negotiations, prepping for measurement activities, and prepping for endorsements are seemingly covered. Hiring an agent seems redundant and costly.
Not taking the medicals is actually quite savvy. As posted above, it's a leverage play to ensure he has some say in where he plays.
I think the biggest question is why was he seemingly not liked by his teammates. Was it simple jealousy that he was already wealthy and not one of the guys, or did he act like he wasn't and exhibit poor leadership?
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Let's remember what all the red flags allegedly indicate -- that Williams has some level emotional immaturity or bad judgement that will compromise his ability to add maximum value to the team that drafts him.
I'd strongly suggest anyone who has read the headlines and think there's smoke, to watch the interview with Florio and Simms. And honestly say that guy seems like he has bad judgement or is emotionally immature.
I'm embarrassed I'm so naive that I didn't understand why he's refusing to do broad medicals.
It's the only leverage he has to control what team picks him. He's only giving access to his body to teams he's willing to play for. This eliminates the chance a team he doesn't want to go from trading up with the Bears.
yes. The interview posted here by BW shows a thoughtful kid who appears to be mature beyond his age. Look, Williams rubs some people the wrong way, especially culture warriors. They want him to fail because he doesn't look to them like he will be a good soldier. He doesn't conform to their idea of what a hard-nosed, obedient, leader of men, should be. I don't put a lot of weight to these personality cliches. But maybe he'll be a great artist who can transform a team that way. Well those same critics who think it takes a soldier, don't want artists to succeed.
wtf? So now all these red flags, however innocent or not you think they may be, is just Willams being an “artist”? Holy shitballs. You sound like a love struck teenager. Pull your shit together, it’s embarrassing
2. You play well. Then nobody cares. Performance is king. It was only a few years ago that teams were bending over backwards to fit jagoffs onto their teams who committed all kinds of crimes and other indiscretions. Sure that has changed but if Caleb comes into the league and lights it up nobody is going to care about his missed medical appointment at the Combine.
The problem with Caleb is that he is the first true test of how the NIL has affected the NFL in terms of incoming rookies. It could be a huge shift. Do you want to be the team who pioneers that if it is a disaster?
I have no skin in the game with Caleb Williams. If the Giants were to draft him, then I'd root for him. If he goes to the Commanders, I will root again him. Now? I don't care. But I've seen things that make me wonder if he has the temperament for the NFL. Others have had the same concern so it's not outlandish.
Kirwan, who has a fine reputation, says something and the knee-jerk response is to attack the messenger? That's pretty telling.
we need to draft PLAYERS who dominate on the field. we don’t have the luxury of trying to parse out who is a good person and who isn’t.
shit, i would prefer 22 Christian Peters compared to the joke rosters we’ve had in the past decade.
we need to draft PLAYERS who dominate on the field. we don’t have the luxury of trying to parse out who is a good person and who isn’t.
shit, i would prefer 22 Christian Peters compared to the joke rosters we’ve had in the past decade.
Part of the abysmal hit rate is because the Giants ignore character concerns with Deandre Baker and Kadarious Toney.
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is that the Giants’ recent hit rate on 1st round draft picks is abysmal. why? because we choose players for the wrong reasons. we pick players to fill holes left by a prior GM’s ineptitude or because a GM falls in love with a guy’s physique or because he was a team captain six times or because we are still building around a guy who can’t play or because some other team outsmarted us. end result is that WE SUCK AT DRAFTING college players. this team will never be fixed until we get better.
we need to draft PLAYERS who dominate on the field. we don’t have the luxury of trying to parse out who is a good person and who isn’t.
shit, i would prefer 22 Christian Peters compared to the joke rosters we’ve had in the past decade.
Part of the abysmal hit rate is because the Giants ignore character concerns with Deandre Baker and Kadarious Toney.
You can certainly make that argument for the prior regime
For the current leadership…..TBD
Maybe the wisest observation I've heard this off season is MHJ questioning why he should stop training for football and train for the combine. That's kind of brilliant.
Maybe the wisest observation I've heard this off season is MHJ questioning why he should stop training for football and train for the combine. That's kind of brilliant.
There is truth in this as well.
However, NFL franchise have to make decisions based on the info they acquire. The Combine and the Pro Days and the 30 visits were only established so teams can acquire this information.
When the prospect refuses to provide that info, the teams are understandably going to react negatively.
I would.
marvin harrison jr or position players skipping drills is one thing and it rarely gets held against them. evan neal was still a top pick and rated as OT1 through his draft process.
QBs displaying bad decision making is a different category of concern that bleeds into part of what they are drafted to be - leaders who take even the non-glamourous parts of the job behind the scenes seriously.
people forget a big reason lamar jackson was passed over, including by his own team baltimore who drafted hayden freaknig hurst over him 7 picks before they took lamar, was because he too had some contract stuff and combine stuff. just like there was animosity in his contract extension discussions for over a year. when it comes to qbs teams are evaluating the off field far more than other positions (duh) and that's because lots of guys like haskins and wilson bust straight out because of immaturity.
Maybe the wisest observation I've heard this off season is MHJ questioning why he should stop training for football and train for the combine. That's kind of brilliant.
You call it leverage. Fine. I'm leaning towards calling it the "jerk-off factor". Is it really worth it to establish some precedent by not doing medicals? Or interviews?
You listen/read to any NFL executive and they will tell you the most important aspects to the Combine are the medicals and interviews. Teams want to get to know you.
Is it that taxing to talk and get checked-out when the league is setting this opportunity so up for everyone to meet at one site? JFC, be a grown-up and check the simple boxes...
It just reeks of entitlement.
I have no skin in the game with Caleb Williams. If the Giants were to draft him, then I'd root for him. If he goes to the Commanders, I will root again him. Now? I don't care. But I've seen things that make me wonder if he has the temperament for the NFL. Others have had the same concern so it's not outlandish.
Kirwan, who has a fine reputation, says something and the knee-jerk response is to attack the messenger? That's pretty telling.
This is exactly where I’m at. I’ve wanted to trade up for Williams since the season ended. And I still hope they do. I think he’s so talented that I’d be willing to take a chance on him. But you have to be a complete moron to just completely dismiss all of the noise that’s been going on around the guy. It’s up to the teams to do a deeper dive and come to a conclusion on whether or not any of this will be an issue moving forward, As you said, I just don’t understand how people can immediately dismiss any mention of potentially negative news and also go to great lengths to discredit the messengers delivering that stuff simply because they like a player and think he’s talented. It’s like dating a hot chick and all your friends keep telling you she’s cheating on you but you don’t want it to be true so you rip your friends apart instead of being open to the possibility
Maybe the wisest observation I've heard this off season is MHJ questioning why he should stop training for football and train for the combine. That's kind of brilliant.
This is exactly how I feel--players should use their leverage. I have always thought more players should pull Eli's if they can.
I also agree with your above post on Williams--this stuff seems like noise, but the teammates potentially not liking him bothers me.
If he has the resources to accomplish all of the duties of an agent, and they are being accomplished a la carte, adhering to the conventional structure isn't necessary.
The construct is changing. When you've been operating a 10M NIL business, you're coming from a completely different place than a legacy college athlete.
The business is simply changing. And the young men are changing too. They are more savvy and cognizant of the business side.
There also stands a chance your friends simply don't understand why a chick that hot would date you and are unnecessarily negative because of the ignorance, right?
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It’s like dating a hot chick and all your friends keep telling you she’s cheating on you but you don’t want it to be true so you rip your friends apart instead of being open to the possibility
There also stands a chance your friends simply don't understand why a chick that hot would date you and are unnecessarily negative because of the ignorance, right?
Well, duh. That’s the entire point. You can just assume your friends are jealous and plant your head firmly in the sand because you don’t like what they are telling you. Or you could keep an open mind and consider the fact that there just may be something to it. In the end, there may not be anything to it. But there also may be. Personally, I’d want to do my due diligence before determining what is true or not. Regardless of how hot she is. Seems like the most rational way to go to me. But hey, feel free to cram your noggin into the sand and just assume your friends are lying if that’s your thing. You did you
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I think one emerging trend is the blue chip players are realizing they have more leverage and also don't have to participate in some of the ceremonial activities. I think that makes some of the older fixtures in and around the league uncomfortable.
Maybe the wisest observation I've heard this off season is MHJ questioning why he should stop training for football and train for the combine. That's kind of brilliant.
You call it leverage. Fine. I'm leaning towards calling it the "jerk-off factor". Is it really worth it to establish some precedent by not doing medicals? Or interviews?
You listen/read to any NFL executive and they will tell you the most important aspects to the Combine are the medicals and interviews. Teams want to get to know you.
Is it that taxing to talk and get checked-out when the league is setting this opportunity so up for everyone to meet at one site? JFC, be a grown-up and check the simple boxes...
It just reeks of entitlement.
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is that the Giants’ recent hit rate on 1st round draft picks is abysmal. why? because we choose players for the wrong reasons. we pick players to fill holes left by a prior GM’s ineptitude or because a GM falls in love with a guy’s physique or because he was a team captain six times or because we are still building around a guy who can’t play or because some other team outsmarted us. end result is that WE SUCK AT DRAFTING college players. this team will never be fixed until we get better.
we need to draft PLAYERS who dominate on the field. we don’t have the luxury of trying to parse out who is a good person and who isn’t.
shit, i would prefer 22 Christian Peters compared to the joke rosters we’ve had in the past decade.
Part of the abysmal hit rate is because the Giants ignore character concerns with Deandre Baker and Kadarious Toney.
You can certainly make that argument for the prior regime
For the current leadership…..TBD
Yes, probably true. Nevertheless, let's make sure the proper support is noted for the current regime in all cases.
I'm a little lost in the metaphor here.
I'm sure Chicago and any other team interested in trading up to draft him is putting in all of the requisite work to assess his character and decision making rationale.
In terms of being a fan and guessing whether he's going to make it or not, I'm more interested in listening to him explain his decisions. That seems way more instructive than what others say about him.
He's definitely not playing by the old rules, and is certainly operating like he's entitled. Whether that portends some negative outcome, or is a savvy negotiation skill is to be determined in my view.
I'd rather a young man use the system to navigate where he wants to play, than some of the previous ways players including Manning have operated.
Williams may be an all pro or a total bust. It the keyboard warriors here are awesome. You all are definitely smarter than anyone who disagrees w you
It's a tradition unlike any other. *grin*
The question is will he actually focus 100% on being a starting NFL QB like it's the most important thing in the world. Guys who do not do so, don't last long. See, e.g., Johnny Football, Josh Rosen, Haskins (RIP).
I have no idea based on snippets here and there what his attitude will be. It's up to the Giants and the other QB needy teams to figure it out.
BUT, we have seen all-world talents implode because they can't do the latter. You don't have to go back to Ryan Leaf.
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I think one emerging trend is the blue chip players are realizing they have more leverage and also don't have to participate in some of the ceremonial activities. I think that makes some of the older fixtures in and around the league uncomfortable.
Maybe the wisest observation I've heard this off season is MHJ questioning why he should stop training for football and train for the combine. That's kind of brilliant.
You call it leverage. Fine. I'm leaning towards calling it the "jerk-off factor". Is it really worth it to establish some precedent by not doing medicals? Or interviews?
You listen/read to any NFL executive and they will tell you the most important aspects to the Combine are the medicals and interviews. Teams want to get to know you.
Is it that taxing to talk and get checked-out when the league is setting this opportunity so up for everyone to meet at one site? JFC, be a grown-up and check the simple boxes...
It just reeks of entitlement.
Not hiring an agent, for example, doesn't seem like a wise decision on the surface. But, on it's own, not huge given the basic rookie deal for a #1 pick is settled already. But, then we hear that is exactly why he didn't hire one. Supposedly the y interviewed agents making their ability to find a loophole in the CBA around the draft. They didn't like the consistent answer they received that it wasn't possible. So, their response is don't hire an agent. a ton of red flags here.
If he doesn't like Chicago, he should just be a dick like Elway and Eli. They were both assholes and both wrong. But, that decision worked out for both. But, he takes this to a whole other level that the vitriol directed at him is bound to be many times worse.
Not hiring an agent, for example, doesn't seem like a wise decision on the surface. But, on it's own, not huge given the basic rookie deal for a #1 pick is settled already. But, then we hear that is exactly why he didn't hire one. Supposedly the y interviewed agents making their ability to find a loophole in the CBA around the draft. They didn't like the consistent answer they received that it wasn't possible. So, their response is don't hire an agent. a ton of red flags here.
If he doesn't like Chicago, he should just be a dick like Elway and Eli. They were both assholes and both wrong. But, that decision worked out for both. But, he takes this to a whole other level that the vitriol directed at him is bound to be many times worse.