Burns is a younger version and virtual clone of Josh Allen (edge) - both in terms of his physical traits as well as his performance in the league since being drafted in the first round in 2019. So it feels very much like the ultimate righting of the ship that went so awry since Gettleman made precisely the wrong pick in the first round of the 2019 draft. Now Schoen just needs to finish the job...
Makes me less salty about losing good players earlier
Can win with stop gaps and can’t build with it either
Build with building blocks and the dl is now a big one
we've been on the same page today across the board. should have extended barkley last year. cut waller and the cap is in the same place it is now.
Burns is a younger version and virtual clone of Josh Allen (edge) - both in terms of his physical traits as well as his performance in the league since being drafted in the first round in 2019. So it feels very much like the ultimate righting of the ship that went so awry since Gettleman made precisely the wrong pick in the first round of the 2019 draft. Now Schoen just needs to finish the job...
I don't think we are a 30 million dollar a year player away from competing but whatever. He is a damn good player and I hope he can continue to improve
Thats the great part of getting a long term deal on a 25 year-old - we have a large window with an extremely talented group of core players at hard-to-find positions.
We’re just one amazing draft in the next couple years from being relevant.
I don't think we are a 30 million dollar a year player away from competing but whatever. He is a damn good player and I hope he can continue to improve
This is such a stupid reason not to get a good young player.
But we walk away with a legit edge, 2 upgrades on the OL and a competent RB. Honestly, not a bad day given the 2 big losses. We’re probably still in the running for comp picks next offseason too.
Not in line for comp picks as it stands now. They are minus 1 - lost 2, added 3. Jackson will likely make it even. Not sure anyone else will get a big enough deal to get anything but a 7th.
But we walk away with a legit edge, 2 upgrades on the OL and a competent RB. Honestly, not a bad day given the 2 big losses. We’re probably still in the running for comp picks next offseason too.
Not in line for comp picks as it stands now. They are minus 1 - lost 2, added 3. Jackson will likely make it even. Not sure anyone else will get a big enough deal to get anything but a 7th.
the comp formula isn't simple a 1 for 1 game. AAV comes into play. We haven't signed anyone near McKinney's 17 MM per.
I don't have a full answer for you, but he was 10th in the NFL in tackles for loss last year. The panthers also Blitz a lot.
If you believe in PFF, his run defense grade was 56.3, vs a pass rush grade of 75.6. That run defense grade would put him in the same group as Leonard Floyd or Frank Clark.
nfl owners have 2 jobs since money isnt really a factor, hire good people and let them work. this nyg regime hasnt been perfect but they've shown some real flashes of promise, and some really creative resource manipulation.
be proud of Schoen here because as I posted, a week or so ago, it was two 2s...one this year and one in another year.
No doubt. A great trade for the Giants and kudos to Schoen on this one. But a real head scratcher for the Panthers especially in light of the Hunt contract???? Prioritizing a guard over an edge rusher? Tepper needs to have his head examined!
RE: remember when tepper was the savant everyone wished mara was?
nfl owners have 2 jobs since money isnt really a factor, hire good people and let them work. this nyg regime hasnt been perfect but they've shown some real flashes of promise, and some really creative resource manipulation.
Yeah, at this point he's worse than Gettleman. I'm not sure what he's thinking.
As someone who lives down here, a lot of people were hopeful with Tepper because Richardson, uh, wasn't a good dude. But Tepper has been a disaster thus far.
& this is coming from someone who couldn't GAF about the Panthers. My neighbors are Panther fans. The Giants really have no history, absent that '05 WC game, with them.
Azeez Ojulari is now the 4th best pass rusher on the Giants.
Last year was his first as a LB in a 3-4? Prior to that, when his stats were better, he was a DE in a 4-3. I know there were other variables last year too.
Im thrilled and at the same time not. If that makes sense. I’m nervous because that’s a lot of money to throw at a player that you could have gotten the same production from a player like Leonard Floyd. Also, somehow when players get paid crazy money, their performance and production seems to drop sometimes. Anyone else think they might have overpaid?
Im thrilled and at the same time not. If that makes sense. I’m nervous because that’s a lot of money to throw at a player that you could have gotten the same production from a player like Leonard Floyd. Also, somehow when players get paid crazy money, their performance and production seems to drop sometimes. Anyone else think they might have overpaid?
In the few Panthers’ games I watched here in NC, Burns looked the heart and soul of the Carolina defense … reminded me of Bobby O with the Colts the year before …
Makes me less salty about losing good players earlier
Can win with stop gaps and can’t build with it either
Build with building blocks and the dl is now a big one
we've been on the same page today across the board. should have extended barkley last year. cut waller and the cap is in the same place it is now.
Excellent
I honestly think that fat old drunk DC wanted him to play more like Jihad Ward then like Miles Garret.
I think he's on OTC Jason's UFA spreadsheet in yellow next off season. He seems like the kind of player you correctly warn about in UFA.
Hopefully in the coming days we're talking about both in the past tense.
I like your thinking
He and Runyan need to be consultants on a Injury Prevention committee.
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I am still hoping it's Maye..
That depends on the Patriots and Commanders before them.
We’re just one amazing draft in the next couple years from being relevant.
This is such a stupid reason not to get a good young player.
Especially if they plan on starting over at QB this makes a ton of sense.
Much rather spend money on this guy than a RB or a safety.
Not in line for comp picks as it stands now. They are minus 1 - lost 2, added 3. Jackson will likely make it even. Not sure anyone else will get a big enough deal to get anything but a 7th.
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But we walk away with a legit edge, 2 upgrades on the OL and a competent RB. Honestly, not a bad day given the 2 big losses. We’re probably still in the running for comp picks next offseason too.
Not in line for comp picks as it stands now. They are minus 1 - lost 2, added 3. Jackson will likely make it even. Not sure anyone else will get a big enough deal to get anything but a 7th.
the comp formula isn't simple a 1 for 1 game. AAV comes into play. We haven't signed anyone near McKinney's 17 MM per.
I don't have a full answer for you, but he was 10th in the NFL in tackles for loss last year. The panthers also Blitz a lot.
If you believe in PFF, his run defense grade was 56.3, vs a pass rush grade of 75.6. That run defense grade would put him in the same group as Leonard Floyd or Frank Clark.
The panthers do a lot of strange things. They turned down two first round picks for him last year.
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I'm happy they did but why would they let Burns walk and instead pay a guard most of that money?
The panthers do a lot of strange things. They turned down two first round picks for him last year.
Insane... i believe it was a 2nd rounder too.
Once you turn down that type of package, you need sign him at all costs.
Very happy the Giants grabbed him. Love this move.
0 is Parris Campbell with coincides with his worth...
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I hope he doesn’t wear zero though. 55 would look much better while he is ripping QB’s in half!
0 is Parris Campbell with coincides with his worth...
Parris Campbell is not a NYG. So the # is open and I'm pretty certain Burns will be taking it
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I'm happy they did but why would they let Burns walk and instead pay a guard most of that money?
The panthers do a lot of strange things. They turned down two first round picks for him last year.
Insane... i believe it was a 2nd rounder too.
Once you turn down that type of package, you need sign him at all costs.
Very happy the Giants grabbed him. Love this move.
It was actually two 1st rounders and one 3rd.
Joe took Morgan to the shed. Between Panthers-Bears trade last spring, Carolina is a good trading partner if you want to rob them blind.
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Burns, Thibideaux and Lawrence on the same line.
this is the giants. They will never all be healthy at the same time. Man I’m like a beaten dog
Love the optimism.
he's done well on trades. even waller trade the compensation was fine, problem was choosing wrong player.
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I'm happy they did but why would they let Burns walk and instead pay a guard most of that money?
The panthers do a lot of strange things. They turned down two first round picks for him last year.
Strange isn’t the word I would use.
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be proud of Schoen here because as I posted, a week or so ago, it was two 2s...one this year and one in another year.
Joe took Morgan to the shed. Between Panthers-Bears trade last spring, Carolina is a good trading partner if you want to rob them blind.
It could have been rookie GM Morgan.
Or ghost GMs Mr. and Mrs. David Tepper.
Not sure where that came from but it always seemed steep to me.
No doubt. A great trade for the Giants and kudos to Schoen on this one. But a real head scratcher for the Panthers especially in light of the Hunt contract???? Prioritizing a guard over an edge rusher? Tepper needs to have his head examined!
Yeah, at this point he's worse than Gettleman. I'm not sure what he's thinking.
& this is coming from someone who couldn't GAF about the Panthers. My neighbors are Panther fans. The Giants really have no history, absent that '05 WC game, with them.
Last year you would have said he was 2nd or 1st.
I laughed like crazy!
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be proud of Schoen here because as I posted, a week or so ago, it was two 2s...one this year and one in another year.
Not sure where that came from but it always seemed steep to me.
The same person who told me some time ago that this deal was happening. He was way ahead of everyone.
In the few Panthers’ games I watched here in NC, Burns looked the heart and soul of the Carolina defense … reminded me of Bobby O with the Colts the year before …