pick a reunion - gates or felciano?

Gets my vote…..”come up baby light my fire…..”

Why Gates struggled so much in Washington? I thought he would do well there .

In comment 16431019 Andy in Boston said:

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Why Gates struggled so much in Washington? I thought he would do well there .

I don't think he was healthy. Didn't he sustain an injury while with the Giants? Not sure he fully recovered.

or zeitler?


all 4 are FA.

we can bring back the entire interior OL of 2021/2022. lol.

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or zeitler? all 4 are FA. we can bring back the entire interior OL of 2021/2022. lol.

Zeitler wasn't here past 2020.

I prefer Zeitler.

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In comment 16431030 bigbluewillrise said: Quote: or zeitler? all 4 are FA. we can bring back the entire interior OL of 2021/2022. lol. Zeitler wasn't here past 2020.

oh yeah confused him and glow, who is also a FA....

also lemeuix is a FA....

billy price is also a FA.

so Gates for me. If we knew more about health, how much “fit” impacted their play, and how well they would mesh with Bricillo’s system we could make an informed decision. But at this point I suspect the right answer is neither.

In Baltimore after he left the Giants.

Yes he's old...who cares, he played at a pro bowl level.

He'd be an excellent stopgap and based on pure performance (not factoring in age or cost), he's one of the best guards available right now.

The only reason why I'd pick Gates or Feliciano (or even Bredeson) is that we do not have an option right now on the roster for Backup Center. There isn't a single guy under contract I'd feel okay if JMS went down.

If it's me? Id bring back both Gates and Zeitler. The more the merrier.

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Bredeson is a nice depth piece. Hes our back up center at this point.

then goes to Balt and performs at a high level.

he may not get more than the minimum.

thank you.. lets stop bringing back nostalgic mediocrity

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thank you.. lets stop bringing back nostalgic mediocrity

what exactly do you expect to get beyond mediocre for the league minimum? mediocrity is a win for cheap backups. we had way worse than mediocre starting last year.

That he isnt a logical re-sign. He has been beyond passable as a Gusrd/backup center.

In comment 16431067 NormanAllen_95 said:

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That he isnt a logical re-sign. He has been beyond passable as a Gusrd/backup center.

if the best you are getting offered is near minimum why rush to sign?

anything over 1 year 3m negates a comp pick. some teams that doesnt matter, some teams it does. some teams have no path to playing time, so no path to earning more than the minimum next offseason.

feliciano signed on march 21st last year for 2.25m. id imagine at some point in the next few weeks if you are a near minimum FA with maybe 1-2-3 teams interested you try to squeeze an extra few hundred thousand out of the one you like best and then sign. that may seem like an insignificant amount but these are probably the last big earning years they may need to make it last a while.

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In comment 16431067 NormanAllen_95 said: Quote: That he isnt a logical re-sign. He has been beyond passable as a Gusrd/backup center. if the best you are getting offered is near minimum why rush to sign? anything over 1 year 3m negates a comp pick. some teams that doesnt matter, some teams it does. some teams have no path to playing time, so no path to earning more than the minimum next offseason. feliciano signed on march 21st last year for 2.25m. id imagine at some point in the next few weeks if you are a near minimum FA with maybe 1-2-3 teams interested you try to squeeze an extra few hundred thousand out of the one you like best and then sign. that may seem like an insignificant amount but these are probably the last big earning years they may need to make it last a while.

You bring up a decent point I guess... If maybe there is a handshake agreement between you and the player.

But of every name mentioned, BB is the only one worth something in my opinion and I would be shocked if he wouldnt sign a deal that paid him 2.75 for one year whoch would be more than he made his previous 3 years in NY and a third of what Glowinski made per year here.

The value is there for us. Not sure if another team will see it.

they had feliciano at 2.8m, gates at 1.7m.

so for the giants, a team looking very closely to squeak out a 3rd/4th round comp pick for mckinney, they probably have a number under $2m where they'd be willing to sign 1 or 2 of them.

gates has no comp pick impact since he was cut, resigning bredeson has no negative value but if he signs elsewhere for enough money he could be the guy that gets them the comp pick for mckinney. id say those 2 are probably more likely than feliciano since he may get the most $ out of the 3.

In comment 16431088 Eric on Li said:

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they had feliciano at 2.8m, gates at 1.7m. so for the giants, a team looking very closely to squeak out a 3rd/4th round comp pick for mckinney, they probably have a number under $2m where they'd be willing to sign 1 or 2 of them. gates has no comp pick impact since he was cut, resigning bredeson has no negative value but if he signs elsewhere for enough money he could be the guy that gets them the comp pick for mckinney. id say those 2 are probably more likely than feliciano since he may get the most $ out of the 3.

Great point about the comp pick scenario. I didnt (and rarely) think of that.

Bredeson made just south of 2.7 in 3 years with the Giants according to Sportrac. If they can get him back AND a comp pick for McK, it totally makes sense.

Thanks for that rundown.

I look for a vet backup to be either from NE or Vegas orgs. Probably someone Bricillo is familiar with.

thank you.

personality and versatility. wouldnt give either much guarenteed money. But we need another back up C for camp at least.

:-)

Stinks at 3 positions seems to be a BBI selling point.

Never understood the post injury love for Gates. Many thought losing him in FA was a disaster. All it was was proof that there are managements in the NFL worse than ours.

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:-)

Aaaaaagggggghhhhh!

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who is the 6th OL/backup center right now?

are you counting on mckethan or ezeudu to somehow go from injury riddled and unplayable to not either of those 2 things? or are we counting on tbd rookies likely with picks outside the top 50?

for close to the minimum there arent going to be any great options. SF certainly did a lot better with their feliciano signing last year than nyg did with JC hasselhoff. that was an extra 1m well spent.

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In comment 16431327 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: . who is the 6th OL/backup center right now? are you counting on mckethan or ezeudu to somehow go from injury riddled and unplayable to not either of those 2 things? or are we counting on tbd rookies likely with picks outside the top 50? for close to the minimum there arent going to be any great options. SF certainly did a lot better with their feliciano signing last year than nyg did with JC hasselhoff. that was an extra 1m well spent.

I realize that there aren't many great options, but if the choice is to sign a player that *if* he plays you don't have much confidence in, I'd rather go with a different player.

There are reasons why Feliciano appeared better. The Giants don't play the same blocking scheme. The Giants can't bracket Feliciano with strong guards you can count on.

a 5th round pick from 2020 in his first year starting.

their starting center was jake bredel, a journeymay 31 year old who had been on 4 different practice squads before SF now in his 2nd season as a starter.

felciano played the majority of his snaps in between those 2 guys including all 3 playoff starts/superbowl at RG.

if there are any other OL who competently started for playoff teams available cheap id gladly take any of them.

remember the chiefs backup guard in the SB for joe thuney? he has 4 starts in the last 3 years combined and washington just gave him 3 years 16m.

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+1.