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Y28 : 3/13/2024 11:51 pm
I typically don’t pay any attention to internet chatter relating to the Giants.

But tonight I have seen 3 different posters (all with prior occasional accuracy) predicting an NFL team will be making a HUGE announcement tomorrow.

This was followed up by another Giants fan contacting me and showing me a 4th poster predicting a similar major move and actually mentioning it involved the Giants.

For those of you that have read my posts over many years know this is NOT the type of things I speculate on.

However, minutes ago, Giant WR Jalyn Hyatt actually just posted:

“soon…..”

I will not provide the handles of the 4 internet posters and provide them any more notoriety or activity

I can’t say that there is “fire” but I must admit all this has me smelling “smoke”- enough that I thought it was worthy of mention on BBI

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Thanks for sharing  
OBJ_AllDay : 3/13/2024 11:53 pm : link
Can’t wait until tomorrow!!
Thanks for sharing  
NYGiantFL007 : 3/13/2024 11:56 pm : link
But not sure what a second year player would know unless he was part of the deal, if any.
Yea, I agree, keeep the handles private  
NormanAllen_95 : 3/13/2024 11:57 pm : link
But any hint to position?

The only thing I can think of, is Jared Goff hetting a long term extension and maybe the Lions are open to trading for Hendon Hooker... Which I called ridiculous. The Hyatt-Hooker combo at Tenn is what I am obv going on.

If so, I would have to eat major crow for oo pooing the idea another poster raised in the last few weeks.
RE: Thanks for sharing  
BleedBlue46 : 3/13/2024 11:58 pm : link
In comment 16431101 NYGiantFL007 said:
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But not sure what a second year player would know unless he was part of the deal, if any.


Or if he knew someone involved? I wonder..
RE: Yea, I agree, keeep the handles private  
BleedBlue46 : 3/13/2024 11:59 pm : link
In comment 16431102 NormanAllen_95 said:
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But any hint to position?

The only thing I can think of, is Jared Goff hetting a long term extension and maybe the Lions are open to trading for Hendon Hooker... Which I called ridiculous. The Hyatt-Hooker combo at Tenn is what I am obv going on.

If so, I would have to eat major crow for oo pooing the idea another poster raised in the last few weeks.


That's the only thing I could think too.
Thanks for sharing  
giantsfanforlife : 3/14/2024 12:07 am : link
Without giving any information away, to the people who know about it, What is your reaction to it?
I forgot where  
JayBinQueens : 3/14/2024 12:10 am : link
I saw it (not bbi) but someone threw out a Minnesota/Chargers trade where Justin Jefferson + goes to LA, Herbert goes to Minny so Harbaugh can take JJM. If only life were like Madden lol
RE: RE: Yea, I agree, keeep the handles private  
terz22 : 3/14/2024 12:13 am : link
In comment 16431104 BleedBlue46 said:
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In comment 16431102 NormanAllen_95 said:


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But any hint to position?

The only thing I can think of, is Jared Goff hetting a long term extension and maybe the Lions are open to trading for Hendon Hooker... Which I called ridiculous. The Hyatt-Hooker combo at Tenn is what I am obv going on.

If so, I would have to eat major crow for oo pooing the idea another poster raised in the last few weeks.



That's the only thing I could think too.


Agree with the idea that if Hyatt knew may involve Hooker. But would this really qualify as major move as op states? Idk maybe. Call me disappointed if thats what it is.
RE: I forgot where  
NormanAllen_95 : 3/14/2024 12:14 am : link
In comment 16431106 JayBinQueens said:
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I saw it (not bbi) but someone threw out a Minnesota/Chargers trade where Justin Jefferson + goes to LA, Herbert goes to Minny so Harbaugh can take JJM. If only life were like Madden lol


That would be nuts, but I would be surprised. OP said it involved the Giants though?
perhaps  
Jonesin 4 A Ship : 3/14/2024 12:15 am : link
Fields?
RE: RE: I forgot where  
JayBinQueens : 3/14/2024 12:16 am : link
In comment 16431108 NormanAllen_95 said:
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In comment 16431106 JayBinQueens said:


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I saw it (not bbi) but someone threw out a Minnesota/Chargers trade where Justin Jefferson + goes to LA, Herbert goes to Minny so Harbaugh can take JJM. If only life were like Madden lol



That would be nuts, but I would be surprised. OP said it involved the Giants though?



Missed that. Was going off of "predicting an NFL team will be making a HUGE announcement tomorrow."
It’s Hooker  
Shecky : 3/14/2024 12:19 am : link
“Smoke” = Hookah = Hooker

BAM 😂
RE: RE: RE: I forgot where  
giantsfanforlife : 3/14/2024 12:20 am : link
In comment 16431110 JayBinQueens said:
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In comment 16431108 NormanAllen_95 said:


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In comment 16431106 JayBinQueens said:


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I saw it (not bbi) but someone threw out a Minnesota/Chargers trade where Justin Jefferson + goes to LA, Herbert goes to Minny so Harbaugh can take JJM. If only life were like Madden lol



That would be nuts, but I would be surprised. OP said it involved the Giants though?




Missed that. Was going off of "predicting an NFL team will be making a HUGE announcement tomorrow."


I wonder how the reaction is regarding this. There are rumors about Justin Fields & Giants.
Tiki and Saqoun  
fish3321 : 3/14/2024 12:24 am : link
will rap battle against each other. Heard it here first.
So IF It's A Trade With Detroit For Hooker  
Trainmaster : 3/14/2024 12:24 am : link
what is the compensation?

He was drafted in the 3rd round (68th overall) by Detroit in the 2023 draft.

Detroit will then ask for the 6th overall. Schoen should laugh out loud.

Detroit will then ask for the Giants 2025 1st rounder. Schoen should chuckle.

Detroit will then ask for the 47th overall. Schoen will counter with a 2024 4th rounder.

Detroit will then ask for the Giants 3rd rounder. Schoen should say "Deal"!
RE: RE: I forgot where  
JayBinQueens : 3/14/2024 12:31 am : link
In comment 16431108 NormanAllen_95 said:
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In comment 16431106 JayBinQueens said:


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I saw it (not bbi) but someone threw out a Minnesota/Chargers trade where Justin Jefferson + goes to LA, Herbert goes to Minny so Harbaugh can take JJM. If only life were like Madden lol



That would be nuts, but I would be surprised. OP said it involved the Giants though?


If it's jersey related I'll be annoyed
Y28 what if this is Hyatt being included in a trade up package  
FranknWeezer : 3/14/2024 12:31 am : link
so NYG can move into the top 3 in the upcoming draft??
Could he be implying a trade into the top-3?  
JoeSchoens11 : 3/14/2024 12:33 am : link
That would essentially guarantee a new qb and be a big splash move.

Getting Hooker wouldn’t be an all caps ‘huge’ level deal (though maybe to Hyatt it would). I wouldn’t even say Fields would be that big either.
Fields? Hooker?  
Greg from LI : 3/14/2024 12:37 am : link
I thought the objective was to get a better quarterback
RE: RE: RE: Yea, I agree, keeep the handles private  
NormanAllen_95 : 3/14/2024 12:38 am : link
In comment 16431107 terz22 said:
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In comment 16431104 BleedBlue46 said:


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In comment 16431102 NormanAllen_95 said:


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But any hint to position?

The only thing I can think of, is Jared Goff hetting a long term extension and maybe the Lions are open to trading for Hendon Hooker... Which I called ridiculous. The Hyatt-Hooker combo at Tenn is what I am obv going on.

If so, I would have to eat major crow for oo pooing the idea another poster raised in the last few weeks.



That's the only thing I could think too.



Agree with the idea that if Hyatt knew may involve Hooker. But would this really qualify as major move as op states? Idk maybe. Call me disappointed if thats what it is.


He said "major announcement" which would be Goff signing like a 200 million dollar deal.... Maybe Amon Ra extrnsion as wel.

Giants side of it... They trade their 3rd (2 places from where Detroit took Hooker last year at 70 vs 68) or 4th rounder (to make up for the lost year) to Detroit for Hooker.

Hooker was drafted as insurance for Goff continuing to play well. Goff was pretty awesome last year. Lions just traded a 3rd away for Carlton Davis.

Its got a lot of stink. I would take Hooker for a 3rd even more for a 4th.
Are these "rumors" coming from posters  
kelsto811 : 3/14/2024 12:38 am : link
On BBI, or somewhere else? You said posters...wasn't sure
Ass hat by proxy?  
dancing blue bear : 3/14/2024 12:39 am : link
Jk. Y28 is most def one of the good ones!

Despite all the clickbait out there JS seems to keep a lid on his real intentions.
Almost nothing would surprise me.
RE: Fields? Hooker?  
NormanAllen_95 : 3/14/2024 12:40 am : link
In comment 16431121 Greg from LI said:
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I thought the objective was to get a better quarterback


I would take a shot on Hooker for at most a 3rd. His injury history is troubling, but he was phenomenal his last year in Tenn.
You would have 3 years at a  
NormanAllen_95 : 3/14/2024 12:40 am : link
3rd round salary to determine hes the guy
And  
Spider43 : 3/14/2024 12:42 am : link
If the announcement is we're restructuring DJ's contract?! Just checking...
If I remember correctly . . .  
ThorSavage87 : 3/14/2024 12:44 am : link
Daboll and the Giants really liked Hooker, but due to his injury he dropped to the 3rd. I thought I remembered he would have projected as a late 1st if he wasn't injured.

Also, I don't think it would be a stretch to say the Giants might like Hooker better than McCarthy, Nix or Penix.
RE: If I remember correctly . . .  
NormanAllen_95 : 3/14/2024 12:52 am : link
In comment 16431128 ThorSavage87 said:
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Daboll and the Giants really liked Hooker, but due to his injury he dropped to the 3rd. I thought I remembered he would have projected as a late 1st if he wasn't injured.

Also, I don't think it would be a stretch to say the Giants might like Hooker better than McCarthy, Nix or Penix.


Agreed on all. Hooker was a gamer, has had a full year to recover. But he is not far from Penix as far as injury concern. A 3rd or 4th with Lock backing up is a great scenario for him and we can just pick the best WR in 1st. Buys us like 3 years if we need it. If he gets hurt again, minumal investment.
RE: If I remember correctly . . .  
BleedBlue46 : 3/14/2024 12:54 am : link
In comment 16431128 ThorSavage87 said:
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Daboll and the Giants really liked Hooker, but due to his injury he dropped to the 3rd. I thought I remembered he would have projected as a late 1st if he wasn't injured.

Also, I don't think it would be a stretch to say the Giants might like Hooker better than McCarthy, Nix or Penix.


If we got Hooker, I wouldn't think it would eliminate the possibility of still taking a qb. We could roll with a rookie, lock and hooker after cutting dj or cut lock and roll with the same +dj..wouldn't be a bad idea with how tough it is to find good young qbs
I really don’t  
Y28 : 3/14/2024 1:00 am : link
have anything more to add to a few vague posts

For all I know, perhaps Hyatt’s wife/ friend is in labor….

2 things I did see posted tonight that are real:

1. Eluemunor posted he will be at the Stadium tomorrow

2. NFL reporter Aaron Wilson says the Giants are trying to sign Lions DB Chase Lucas, considered one of the leagues top ST gunners
I really liked Hendon Hooker,  
BleedBlue46 : 3/14/2024 1:05 am : link
If the Lions feel set with Goff then dealing HH before the draft should make sense. Makes our drafting a lot more flexible to avoid overpaying in a trade up for JJM. I still don't think it would stop us from a trade up to 5 for a qb, but it would make things a lot more flexible.
There are also  
giantsfanforlife : 3/14/2024 1:06 am : link
rumors that the Giants & Patriots are talking a deal from 6 to 3 in round 1.

Let's see what happen tomorrow.
RE: I really don’t  
NormanAllen_95 : 3/14/2024 1:12 am : link
In comment 16431132 Y28 said:
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have anything more to add to a few vague posts

For all I know, perhaps Hyatt’s wife/ friend is in labor….

2 things I did see posted tonight that are real:

1. Eluemunor posted he will be at the Stadium tomorrow

2. NFL reporter Aaron Wilson says the Giants are trying to sign Lions DB Chase Lucas, considered one of the leagues top ST gunners


Thanks either way. Although, if one of your sources said "there's going to be a huge announcement" and that "the Gisnts are involved" I don't think that computes. Lol.

I also don't think the Lions are that desperate to trade a guy they got around the same spot as last year for the same pick a year later. It would prob be something like the Giants 47, and a 4th for Hooker and the Lions 4th/5th

Either way, fun to speculate.
Ok,  
darren in pdx : 3/14/2024 1:13 am : link
imagining a trade goes down and the Giants get Hooker. Someone tell me how I should feel, I don’t know much about him other than he dropped due to injury. Is he as good of a prospect or better than Maye, Daniels or McCarthy?
Just For The Corny Joke Angle  
Trainmaster : 3/14/2024 1:17 am : link
I hope the Giants end up with Hooker or Penix. Or maybe both?

“Hooker Gives Penix Hard Competition At QB”

RE: If I remember correctly . . .  
allstarjim : 3/14/2024 1:18 am : link
In comment 16431128 ThorSavage87 said:
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Daboll and the Giants really liked Hooker, but due to his injury he dropped to the 3rd. I thought I remembered he would have projected as a late 1st if he wasn't injured.

Also, I don't think it would be a stretch to say the Giants might like Hooker better than McCarthy, Nix or Penix.


I agree. NFL talent evaluators don't have the recency bias that fans do. Hooker is healed, he has a year of getting acclimated to the NFL, and he has real franchise QB upside. Big arm, prototype size, and can move. If Detroit would do a deal on him, I'd expect Daboll and Schoen would love Hooker's overall profile. The fact that he has familiarity with Hyatt is a bonus. If you can swing a deal for Hooker for #47, which I don't think is too rich, you can then go after Nabers or Odunze at 6. Hooker's non-injury grade would probably at least be in the neighborhood of Maye and McCarthy. Remember Hooker in 11 games in 2022...3100+ yards passing, 69.6% completion, 27 TDs vs just 2 INTs, and ran for over 400 yards and 5 more scores. If you can't get excited about his potential, I'm not sure if you have a pulse. I do think that perhaps a 2025 late day 2 or early day 3 pick might have to be included in the deal to get it done, and still, I would do it.
RE: Ok,  
NormanAllen_95 : 3/14/2024 1:22 am : link
In comment 16431137 darren in pdx said:
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imagining a trade goes down and the Giants get Hooker. Someone tell me how I should feel, I don’t know much about him other than he dropped due to injury. Is he as good of a prospect or better than Maye, Daniels or McCarthy?


Diff than Maye, more like Daniels (better thrower), would be what we want McCarthy to become minus the injuries.

He has a helluva a lot of experience and he was lethal for Tenn. He can rifle it and was a legit 1st round consideration going into last draft before the injury.

Joe Milton who took over for him might have the biggest arm, size and athleticism profile in this draft. He couldnt do with that Tenn offense that Hooker could. Hes as good a prospect as Penix but more mobile.
RE: Fields? Hooker?  
Chris in Philly : 3/14/2024 1:27 am : link
In comment 16431121 Greg from LI said:
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I thought the objective was to get a better quarterback


People hear “major announcement” and the -first- thing people think of is Hendon Hooker? Not trading up to the first pick? Or the second pick? Or a major star? But…Hendon Hooker? The fuck?
I just read that Sam Darnold is only 7 months older than Hooker  
robbieballs2003 : 3/14/2024 1:30 am : link
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RE: RE: Fields? Hooker?  
NormanAllen_95 : 3/14/2024 1:34 am : link
In comment 16431141 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 16431121 Greg from LI said:


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I thought the objective was to get a better quarterback



People hear “major announcement” and the -first- thing people think of is Hendon Hooker? Not trading up to the first pick? Or the second pick? Or a major star? But…Hendon Hooker? The fuck?


Hooker trade would not be the major announcement. It would be Goff signing a deal bigger than what Cousins just signed.
RE: RE: Ok,  
allstarjim : 3/14/2024 1:43 am : link
In comment 16431140 NormanAllen_95 said:
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In comment 16431137 darren in pdx said:


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imagining a trade goes down and the Giants get Hooker. Someone tell me how I should feel, I don’t know much about him other than he dropped due to injury. Is he as good of a prospect or better than Maye, Daniels or McCarthy?



Diff than Maye, more like Daniels (better thrower), would be what we want McCarthy to become minus the injuries.

He has a helluva a lot of experience and he was lethal for Tenn. He can rifle it and was a legit 1st round consideration going into last draft before the injury.

Joe Milton who took over for him might have the biggest arm, size and athleticism profile in this draft. He couldnt do with that Tenn offense that Hooker could. Hes as good a prospect as Penix but more mobile.


Milton has tools but is a major project. One read passer who really, and I mean really struggles when that read isn't there.

The less surprising news would be Fields to NYG. And again, I still wouldn't hate it. I think Daboll wants to get a QB with some tools that he can refine. Fields has that. If you think Fields is at his ceiling, then it's a troubling notion. I don't necessarily think that's true, though. Fields has real deep ball touch, and we all know about the ability to make plays happen with his legs. For Fields, Daboll will probably try to tailor the offense around his strengths while trying to refine the more advanced quarterbacking elements of his game. The upshot is that Fields probably costs less than Hooker. But you look at Fields, he only had one year with really one bonafide weapon in D.J. Moore.

It's a really super interesting proposition to think about. What could Daboll do with Justin Fields, Hyatt, a Nabers or Odunze, then perhaps Trey Benson in the 2nd round, or Blake Corum in the 3rd?

If it doesn't pan out, you still have Lock and should have ammo with next year's picks to pivot... Shedeur Sanders? Maybe Carson Beck? You can make an argument that while the QB crop might not be as deep at the top, the ceiling is at least comparable, maybe even with safer floors.

The more I think about it, the more I like an unconventional play that brings in an unrefined talent such as Hooker or Fields with the insurance of making a play at the top of the draft next year for a QB.

I have issues with Maye, McCarthy, Penix, and Nix...even Daniels, who I really like, but for the latter it's so unlikely he'll be in play for NYG. If you want a guy who has a good chance to actually make some noise in 2024 for this team...I feel better about that guy being Fields or Hooker than I do about anyone in this class outside of Daniels.

And Williams? Not in play anyway, most likely, and if he was, I'd steer clear...no divas here.

If you're Daboll, and Fields, Hooker, and Maye, McCarthy, Penix, and Nix are all potential options, how far apart are these guys? Do you, the QB guru, have similar confidence in the 2 former QBs to get great outcomes from as you do one of these rookies, who will be more expensive in terms of draft capital?
Toney’s  
StingerProf : 3/14/2024 1:44 am : link
Mix tape is dropping.
RE: RE: Fields? Hooker?  
Amtoft : 3/14/2024 1:45 am : link
In comment 16431141 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 16431121 Greg from LI said:


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I thought the objective was to get a better quarterback



People hear “major announcement” and the -first- thing people think of is Hendon Hooker? Not trading up to the first pick? Or the second pick? Or a major star? But…Hendon Hooker? The fuck?


I read it major announcement and the Giants were involved … as something major happens and that means it affects the Giants on the side. That would imply Hooker. Don’t think we are the major announcement right?
RE: RE: Fields? Hooker?  
allstarjim : 3/14/2024 1:55 am : link
In comment 16431141 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 16431121 Greg from LI said:


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I thought the objective was to get a better quarterback



People hear “major announcement” and the -first- thing people think of is Hendon Hooker? Not trading up to the first pick? Or the second pick? Or a major star? But…Hendon Hooker? The fuck?


I think that's because of the Hyatt post. And it would be a major move. Just look at the tools. A year ago, he was a prospect with a torn ACL but a cannon of an arm at 6'3" nearly 220 lbs with 10.5" hands. Why wouldn't you be intrigued with what this kind of player could become under Daboll's tutelage? Physically, his profile is better than McCarthy, Daniels, or Nix. He's more athletic than Maye.

I think it's a longshot because if I'm Detroit, why would I not want to keep Hooker another season to develop him with Jared Goff entering the final year of his deal? The only answer is that maybe they think they can draft a difference maker with the extra 2nd that would put them over the top.

But even then, if you do this, you are locked into Goff and you're extending him, which may be their thought process anyway. But they have nobody but Hooker behind Goff, so they would need to sign someone. But Hooker without that injury goes at least a round higher last year, putting him at latest in that late first, early 2nd round status. This is not a QB that is without compelling traits.

But given the situation, if there really is smoke to this, I think Fields is more likely if the Giants pivot away from this rookie class.
If given the choice of:  
NormanAllen_95 : 3/14/2024 1:59 am : link
Ofunze/Nabers + giving up a 3rd or 4th to roll the dice with Hooker vs trading assets to move up for McCarthy, or moving back up to the mod first for Penix/Nix, I would do the Hooker deal.

McCarthy sitting there at 6 is even questionable when I could give up a day 2 for Hooker who I really liked last year.
Why the hell would Detroit trade him?  
robbieballs2003 : 3/14/2024 1:59 am : link
It makes no sense.
RE: Why the hell would Detroit trade him?  
wahl35 : 3/14/2024 2:07 am : link
In comment 16431153 robbieballs2003 said:
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It makes no sense.


No it doesn't make sense
This entire thing  
mattyblue : 3/14/2024 2:08 am : link
is going to have to do with Rodgers. He has apparently pushed the Sandy Hook conspiracy theory all over the place. He’s a dirtbag, but that’s my guess anyways.
RE: Why the hell would Detroit trade him?  
NormanAllen_95 : 3/14/2024 2:16 am : link
In comment 16431153 robbieballs2003 said:
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It makes no sense.


Really just a giess based on Hyatt's tweet. I would be way more surprised if it happened.

Whatever, I just ran with a guess.
RE: Why the hell would Detroit trade him?  
NormanAllen_95 : 3/14/2024 2:19 am : link
In comment 16431153 robbieballs2003 said:
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It makes no sense.


Really just a giess based on Hyatt's tweet. I would be way more surprised if it happened.

Whatever, I just ran with a guess.
What if  
BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit : 3/14/2024 3:35 am : link
Bills are trading Josh Allen to the Giants for #6 and next years 1st to reunite Daboll and Allen.

Allen maybe signed off to be close to his movie star girlfriend?

Im dreaming I know I know.
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