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Viking is in rebuild.....and won't be paying him.

That would be big!

In comment 16431161 George from PA said:

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Viking is in rebuild.....and won't be paying him. That would be big!

Yes it would! The Chargers still have some work to do with their money situation, Bosa, K Allen Even though he restructured, maybe Mack.
If something huge is being announced, a trade would seem to be a more likely thing than a contract extension. Draft picks or a player trade, maybe even a combo of the two.

Makes him untradeable. That’s not happening.

There was some chatter out there about NYG trading for Fields

In comment 16431163 leatherneck570 said:

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Makes him untradeable. That’s not happening.

No, no ... i was not referring to Herbert. I didn't mean that the Chargers were the only one to potentially be involved in a trade. I just brought up some of those guys as possibilities.

In comment 16431167 wahl35 said:

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In comment 16431163 leatherneck570 said: Quote: Makes him untradeable. That’s not happening. No, no ... i was not referring to Herbert. I didn't mean that the Chargers were the only one to potentially be involved in a trade. I just brought up some of those guys as possibilities.

It wasn’t aimed at you. A Herbert trade was mentioned earlier in the thread.

Good chance we’re going to see Denver or Vikings trade up to 4. So could also be that. There’s a lot out there about that.

Is my guess.

In comment 16431102 NormanAllen_95 said:

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But any hint to position? The only thing I can think of, is Jared Goff hetting a long term extension and maybe the Lions are open to trading for Hendon Hooker... Which I called ridiculous. The Hyatt-Hooker combo at Tenn is what I am obv going on. If so, I would have to eat major crow for oo pooing the idea another poster raised in the last few weeks.

That wouldn't be a major move at all..

This isn’t all based on Wesley Steinburg’s tweet about a text he received. He’s a known troll.

In comment 16431170 UberAlias said:

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Good chance we’re going to see Denver or Vikings trade up to 4. So could also be that. There’s a lot out there about that.

I just don't see that happening. They seem hellbent on a WR. Going down outside the top 10 means they are out on all the top WR.

In comment 16431135 giantsfanforlife said:

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rumors that the Giants & Patriots are talking a deal from 6 to 3 in round 1. Let's see what happen tomorrow.

That's the only news I wanna hear.

Fields I would be pissed. Fields is at best, marginally better than Jones and is due for a 2nd contract shortly.

In comment 16431176 Optimus-NY said:

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In comment 16431135 giantsfanforlife said: Quote: rumors that the Giants & Patriots are talking a deal from 6 to 3 in round 1. Let's see what happen tomorrow. That's the only news I wanna hear.

+1

Hyatt being packaged in a deal to move up, or the Hendon Hooker theory is plausible.

While not my first choice, the Hooker thing does make some level of sense when you break it all down. NYG liked him last year, Detroit May no longer feel they need him as insurance, maybe the Giants have worked every angle to get up to the top 3 for one of Williams, Maye or Daniels and know they can’t. Regardless of his age, and what seem May feel about him based on the college uniform/a he wore, Hooker would represent a viable near and long term option at QB to finally separate from Jones.

In comment 16431153 robbieballs2003 said:

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It makes no sense.

Everything has a price. But it would imply the Giants 2nd to Detroit. A 3rd prob wouldn’t be enough to do it.

This would be an intriguing play for Schoen. It would be an interesting vote of “no confidence” in the top 4 QBs from a real GM with skin in the game.

Major disappointment if that was the case.

Only way Lions would trade if if the Giants gave up a 2nd for him.

Hooker is already 26 and was viewed as a 3rd round draft prospect. Maye, Daniels & McCarthy are widely viewed as 1st round draft prospects, I'd prefer one of them.

there could be a1q Fields+ to NE for them to drop to 9. Chicago set up for Williams and MHJ.

No rumor behind it but feel thats the eeboot button to hit.

...but there is a difference in a rumor and random speculation.

In comment 16431141 Chris in Philly said:

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In comment 16431121 Greg from LI said: Quote: I thought the objective was to get a better quarterback People hear “major announcement” and the -first- thing people think of is Hendon Hooker? Not trading up to the first pick? Or the second pick? Or a major star? But…Hendon Hooker? The fuck?

major announcement.

It would have to be top 3.

Then we will be stuck in cellar for his entire contract. I see very limited nfl talent there. That will be disappointing. Jones is better.

If it was a move in the draft we would’ve had some asshat clues.

But the ripple effects would be HUGE. It would signal that we would be picking a QB at 6. Maybe Schoen heard Minny was willing to get up in front and Giants to dont have appetite to move up.

They trade a day 2 pick for a QB they liked last year but remember Hyatt was dropping which wasn't expected so Giants might have wanted to draft Hooker in 3rd round if that wasn't picked before then.

Basically taking Giants out of a QB selection at #6 would be HUGE news to our offseason.

In comment 16431193 Dankbeerman said:

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there could be a1q Fields+ to NE for them to drop to 9. Chicago set up for Williams and MHJ. No rumor behind it but feel thats the eeboot button to hit.

That would be perfect for the Giants. They'd be assured of getting one of Maye or Daniels in that case with a slight trade up from 6 to 4---a deal the Cards would be amenable to doing with the Giants with MHJr gone and the Cards assured of getting one of the other two top remaining WRs from the first tier in Nabers or Odunze. Ossenfort and Schoen's deputy Cowden are buds from Tennessee, so that will assuredly help. I also have a feeling that Jayden Daniels goes second to the Foreskins, leaving Drake Maye to the Giants (their top option at QB from this class based on scouting trips this past season).

thoughts from one post here or there and then run with it as gospel.

1) Fields to the Giants wouldn't be a major move and in fact would be a desperation move. I hate using stats as a proof positive of an opinion (as many things can play into those) BUT, Fields stats are very much like Daniel Jones's stats.

In fact, those stats in some way are actually worse than Jones's stats especially when it comes to yards, TDs via the air. Jones is bottom tier already in points generated through the passing game so to find another QB with even less points through the passing game is truly ugly..

The only 100% true advantage Fields has over Jones is running and even that isn't as wide a gap as you would think.

Fields to the Giants is NOT a major announcement at all.

2) I do think something is up for a major announcement outside of the Gmen that could affect where the Giants go draft wise.

Justin Jefferson could be a major player piece to some team looking to add that last potential piece for a SB run. Teams that come to mind:

Cincinnati
Kansas City (they are looking to 3 peat)
Buffalo (tough cap spot though)
San Fran (if they move Brandon Ayiuk)

Teams That would be attractive from a Draft Pick situation:

Las Vegas Raiders
New England (JJ and Minny's 1st could get them to #3)
Arizona (same as the New England point)
Washington (they are looking to make a splash)

LAC- Herbert's deal is untradeable right now, but a restructured deal could then be moved with JJ coming to the Chargers for Herbert with Minny's 1st this year and next year included. That would be an all-time epic deal. (UNLIKELY FOR SURE THOUGH)

it wouldn't happen today as has been speculated. There is no way LAC would trade him now and keep their fingers crossed that their QB is there at 5. That is unless they trade him to like one of the top 3 teams.

Seriously though, is he better than the any of the top 5 from this year?

Most of the speculation seems to be moving up to a position to draft Maye.

There are a few other references to moves that would leave us with McCarthy, Hooker and even the thought of moving up to #1 for Caleb.

I did stumble upon this twitter account though. I thought it was noteworthy because the guy who basically broke the Brian Burns news days before free agency opened has the BBI handle Rickey213 as in Rickey with an "e". Is this an asshat hiding in plain sight?
link - ( New Window )

I can't believe people are still taking what this fake account puts out and thinks its real. This is where all this is coming from.,

But I had simply added that the Fields rumor was also out there. Not really saying any more than that.

Clamoring for Fields the past week. My god how far we have fallen as a fanbase.

In comment 16431215 UberAlias said:

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But I had simply added that the Fields rumor was also out there. Not really saying any more than that.

wasn't directed at anybody- it keeps coming up about Fields.

imagine your team is poised to get a quality QB, and you're being shipped to an even shittier team in the trade up.

that the Giants would tell Jalin Hyatt about a significant move they were going to make? I don't see why they would ever do that.

If he is part of a trade, they would tell him he was being traded (maybe where) and more to come when it is announced. I doubt they would sit down and go over the details before it was done.

Y28 - thanks for the info. Your track record is solid, so appreciate the information, major announcement today or not.

In comment 16431202 Giants1986 said:

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If it was a move in the draft we would’ve had some asshat clues.

I’ve been told for a while we’ve explored trading up. You can gather that from some national beats. Sometimes you don’t need an asshat to confirm, there’s too much smoke around this to not have legs. Doesn’t mean it will happen though.

Logically, the Giants exploring a top 3 trade really means they’re talking with NE. Chicago is taking Williams, Washington is taking Daniels and the in division tax would be brutal……

If NE doesn’t love Drake Maye (and there’s some reason to doubt that they do) things are gonna get interesting. Real interesting.

How about, the Giants trade down with the Vikings and receive JJ?

In comment 16431219 jvm52106 said:

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In comment 16431215 UberAlias said: Quote: But I had simply added that the Fields rumor was also out there. Not really saying any more than that. wasn't directed at anybody- it keeps coming up about Fields.

Yeah, I think it's unlikely. It's telling that there hasn't been an apparent robust market for him. If that was a direction we went, it would seem to me more of a plan C kind of situation to me.

In comment 16431204 Optimus-NY said:

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In comment 16431193 Dankbeerman said: Quote: there could be a1q Fields+ to NE for them to drop to 9. Chicago set up for Williams and MHJ. No rumor behind it but feel thats the eeboot button to hit. That would be perfect for the Giants. They'd be assured of getting one of Maye or Daniels in that case with a slight trade up from 6 to 4---a deal the Cards would be amenable to doing with the Giants with MHJr gone and the Cards assured of getting one of the other two top remaining WRs from the first tier in Nabers or Odunze. Ossenfort and Schoen's deputy Cowden are buds from Tennessee, so that will assuredly help. I also have a feeling that Jayden Daniels goes second to the Foreskins, leaving Drake Maye to the Giants (their top option at QB from this class based on scouting trips this past season).

I really think it is Williams 1 and Daniels 2.

The rest is waiting on CHI. they need to move #1 or Fields and that will set off the dominoes.

I am also not sure anyone else has the ammo to get to 4. Don't buy the Jefferson trade.

In comment 16431225 GiantGrit said:

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In comment 16431202 Giants1986 said: Quote: If it was a move in the draft we would’ve had some asshat clues. I’ve been told for a while we’ve explored trading up. You can gather that from some national beats. Sometimes you don’t need an asshat to confirm, there’s too much smoke around this to not have legs. Doesn’t mean it will happen though. Logically, the Giants exploring a top 3 trade really means they’re talking with NE. Chicago is taking Williams, Washington is taking Daniels and the in division tax would be brutal…… If NE doesn’t love Drake Maye (and there’s some reason to doubt that they do) things are gonna get interesting. Real interesting.

Anytime I hear about someone trading in/out of the 3 spot this just plays in my head.
Hate-Love the Drake - ( New Window )

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In comment 16431225 GiantGrit said:

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In comment 16431202 Giants1986 said: Quote: If it was a move in the draft we would’ve had some asshat clues. I’ve been told for a while we’ve explored trading up. You can gather that from some national beats. Sometimes you don’t need an asshat to confirm, there’s too much smoke around this to not have legs. Doesn’t mean it will happen though. Logically, the Giants exploring a top 3 trade really means they’re talking with NE. Chicago is taking Williams, Washington is taking Daniels and the in division tax would be brutal…… If NE doesn’t love Drake Maye (and there’s some reason to doubt that they do) things are gonna get interesting. Real interesting.

This is how I see it too, but the one piece I'm not so sure of is Washington. It's unclear if they prefer Daniels or Maye and if you go by what's "out there" it seems fairly close to a 50/50 split depending on who you believe.

I hope this is not based on the Wes Steinberg tweet. Everyone should know by now he's a parody account.

Could be a player he is friendly with in the league has been involved in a trade negotiation and dished to Hyatt.

was referring to.

In comment 16431236 UberAlias said:

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was referring to.

Maybe not directly, but for some reason or other his tweets still occasionally spread like wildfire.

Talking about big news dropping.

“Just got a text...

All I can say is WOW 👀

Stay tuned.”

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