I typically don’t pay any attention to internet chatter relating to the Giants.
But tonight I have seen 3 different posters (all with prior occasional accuracy) predicting an NFL team will be making a HUGE announcement tomorrow.
This was followed up by another Giants fan contacting me and showing me a 4th poster predicting a similar major move and actually mentioning it involved the Giants.
For those of you that have read my posts over many years know this is NOT the type of things I speculate on.
However, minutes ago, Giant WR Jalyn Hyatt actually just posted:
“soon…..”
I will not provide the handles of the 4 internet posters and provide them any more notoriety or activity
I can’t say that there is “fire” but I must admit all this has me smelling “smoke”- enough that I thought it was worthy of mention on BBI
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Don’t know why, Odell is pretty washed up at this point
I was thinking of starting a Bring Back Odell thread when I saw that he was being cut. Long story short, he's a complementary player instead of a star but his injury history is too scary to take a chance on unless it's a very team friendly deal.
I think all along they wanted to tear it down and build with their guy, but after making the playoffs they coukdnt jist tear down a playoff team
Let's move up and get Drake Maye, and "hopefully" turn this franchise around!
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like Jefferson to the Giants for a swap of Rd 1 picks?
But Vikings could still be jumped at 4 or 5 so I doubt it.
Agreed, Vikings wouldn't do anything until they knew the guy they want would be there at 6, i.e., when giants are on the clock
start making phone calls LOL. we NEED to know! i am dying over here at work refreshing BBI every fucking second.
Maybe Chicago would swap down to 3.
Exciting times
That would mean that Schoen is 100% sure the Commanders are going with Daniels at 2. Seems like a huge leap of faith with more than a month to go...
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not heard myself yet.
start making phone calls LOL. we NEED to know! i am dying over here at work refreshing BBI every fucking second.
Most likely I'd be told not to share it yet, tbh.
What do you think this would "cost?"
Just spitballin' here (not based on anything), but the Jets moved up three spots to No. 3, while sending the No. 6 overall pick, two second-round choices in 2018 year (Nos. 37 and 49) and their second-rounder in 2019 to the Colts.
Maybe it's #6, our second rounder and a first rounder next year?
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not heard myself yet.
That would mean that Schoen is 100% sure the Commanders are going with Daniels at 2. Seems like a huge leap of faith with more than a month to go...
Or that Schoen has the top 3 significantly ahead of #4 and would be okay with any of them
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not heard myself yet.
start making phone calls LOL. we NEED to know! i am dying over here at work refreshing BBI every fucking second.
Most likely I'd be told not to share it yet, tbh.
Jon, you know it's my birthday. All I want for my birthday is a little bit of news to fill my hankering.
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not heard myself yet.
That would mean that Schoen is 100% sure the Commanders are going with Daniels at 2. Seems like a huge leap of faith with more than a month to go...
With Kingsbury as OC, it's pretty close to a sure bet.
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not heard myself yet.
What do you think this would "cost?"
If they're trying to force NE to say no ... next year's #1 and more, and this year's #2. If not, more.
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not heard myself yet.
start making phone calls LOL. we NEED to know! i am dying over here at work refreshing BBI every fucking second.
Most likely I'd be told not to share it yet, tbh.
no, i know. was totally joking. but make some phone calls...
Makes me almost happy that I’m sick and called out today!
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Just spitballin' here (not based on anything), but the Jets moved up three spots to No. 3, while sending the No. 6 overall pick, two second-round choices in 2018 year (Nos. 37 and 49) and their second-rounder in 2019 to the Colts.
Maybe it's #6, our second rounder and a first rounder next year?
At the minimum a 2024 second and 2025 first, but wouldn’t be surprised if it also a 2025 3rd.
Tennessee runs a unique offensive system where the QB is not asked to do a lot.
It is a run-first game plan where the objective is to create one-on-one isolations to exploit downfield passing.
The QB must be strong-armed and be able to make those throws.
The intermediate throws and throws in the middle of the field are not exploited.
The concerns that Hyatt did not show sophistication in his patterns and that he ran a limited route tree are part of the same system that impacts the QB.
There is not a lot of nuance to the game.
The QB does not read the field his throws are designed and set up by previous plays. The QB reads half the field.
To better understand how effective the system is, look at Joe Milton's production when he took over for an injured Hooker.
Tennessee did not miss a beat.
Milton won the MVP honors in the bowl game vs. Clemson.
Joe Milton and Hooker are similar types of players. They are older prospects who have great physical attributes. They had underwhelming careers until they transferred to Tennessee.
Tennessee recruited them as they were perfect for their system.
Both players are projects and will take time to develop.
Is Hooker the QB that we saw at Virginia Tech or the QB that we saw at Tennessee?
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not heard myself yet.
What do you think this would "cost?"
If they're trying to force NE to say no ... next year's #1 and more, and this year's #2. If not, more.
If we give up this year's 1 and 2, and next year's 1, we are pretty much guaranteeing that the new QB won't have a legit #1 WR for a while
Why would the Chargers want DJ?
I also don't see Detroit trading Hooker unless they got #47 at a minimum, which is a lot more than I would want to pay.
My hope as someone said is that this is a trade by another team like the Vikings that simply affects but doesn't involve the Giants.
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plus a swap of #1's for Herbert? They can't afford him anyway
Why would the Chargers want DJ?
To play this year while they get JJ ready
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not heard myself yet.
What do you think this would "cost?"
If they're trying to force NE to say no ... next year's #1 and more, and this year's #2. If not, more.
That’s pretty rich and would require them to play heavy in next years FA market.
If the Chargers trade Herbert (and they won't), I would imagine that it would be so Harbaugh could draft McCarthy.
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not heard myself yet.
What do you think this would "cost?"
If they're trying to force NE to say no ... next year's #1 and more, and this year's #2. If not, more.
I’d say more for sure. Even then, NE may still say no axx sac they are as desperate for a QB as we are.
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not heard myself yet.
What do you think this would "cost?"
If they're trying to force NE to say no ... next year's #1 and more, and this year's #2. If not, more.
Way too much.
I have also read that Peters loves Maye, and would presumably as GM have a greater say about which QB to pick than Klingsbury.
If NE isn’t going QB just stay at 6. Teams that trade up really high rarely win the trade.
I guess this will either make or break Schoen’s career. If he hits he will it will be an incredible accomplishment and if he misses his Giants tenure would go down as one of the worst in Giants history. I don’t like the move up now before draft day. With 2 teams picking ahead you could still get your 3rd choice.
I also don't see Detroit trading Hooker unless they got #47 at a minimum, which is a lot more than I would want to pay.
My hope as someone said is that this is a trade by another team like the Vikings that simply affects but doesn't involve the Giants.
Mahomes had a small frame...Lamar has a small frame. We gotta stop worry about small frame. I get RGIII had a small frame but as long as the QB can be smart about not taking big hits...I don't think it really matters that much.
If NE isn’t going QB just stay at 6. Teams that trade up really high rarely win the trade.
I guess this will either make or break Schoen’s career. If he hits he will it will be an incredible accomplishment and if he misses his Giants tenure would go down as one of the worst in Giants history. I don’t like the move up now before draft day. With 2 teams picking ahead you could still get your 3rd choice.
If Neal is struggling that badly where the NYG are the worst team in football, they'd 100% pull the plug and have Eluemunor play RT. They may do that anyways
Thursday!
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Which I think to move to 3 that’s what it’s going to take. With so many holes and still big questions on the OL giving up next years #1 would be a really big gamble. With Neal at Tackle it could wind up being the #1 overall pick next year.
If NE isn’t going QB just stay at 6. Teams that trade up really high rarely win the trade.
I guess this will either make or break Schoen’s career. If he hits he will it will be an incredible accomplishment and if he misses his Giants tenure would go down as one of the worst in Giants history. I don’t like the move up now before draft day. With 2 teams picking ahead you could still get your 3rd choice.
If Neal is struggling that badly where the NYG are the worst team in football, they'd 100% pull the plug and have Eluemunor play RT. They may do that anyways
Struggling or injured. He’s been hurt the last few years.
I would think yes.
If they can convince AZ to pass on MHjr.
That's my guess. I'm guessing JJ and Maye have similar grades.
Hopefully the HUGE news is a free Big Gulp sized Pepsi on opening day.