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Y28 : 3/13/2024 11:51 pm
I typically don’t pay any attention to internet chatter relating to the Giants.

But tonight I have seen 3 different posters (all with prior occasional accuracy) predicting an NFL team will be making a HUGE announcement tomorrow.

This was followed up by another Giants fan contacting me and showing me a 4th poster predicting a similar major move and actually mentioning it involved the Giants.

For those of you that have read my posts over many years know this is NOT the type of things I speculate on.

However, minutes ago, Giant WR Jalyn Hyatt actually just posted:

“soon…..”

I will not provide the handles of the 4 internet posters and provide them any more notoriety or activity

I can’t say that there is “fire” but I must admit all this has me smelling “smoke”- enough that I thought it was worthy of mention on BBI

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A big move would be getting Justin Jefferson  
bigblueny : 3/14/2024 10:12 am : link
This would be a page out of Buffalo's playbook landing Stefon Diggs so Josh Allen had someone good to throw to. Schoen is obviously very familiar with that move. They gave up a 2020 1st (#20), 2020 5th, 2020 6th, and a 2021 4th. Jefferson is better than Diggs ever was/is, so a similar package using #6 overall would be expected.
RE: RE: Ok so what if we move to 3  
AcidTest : 3/14/2024 10:14 am : link
In comment 16431381 JonC said:
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And Washington takes Maye? Not a fan of Daniels. Is JJ the backup plan?



I would think yes.


Why would we give up all that draft capital to move up to #3 for JJM? That's crazy.
RE: A big move would be getting Justin Jefferson  
mphbullet36 : 3/14/2024 10:15 am : link
In comment 16431389 bigblueny said:
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This would be a page out of Buffalo's playbook landing Stefon Diggs so Josh Allen had someone good to throw to. Schoen is obviously very familiar with that move. They gave up a 2020 1st (#20), 2020 5th, 2020 6th, and a 2021 4th. Jefferson is better than Diggs ever was/is, so a similar package using #6 overall would be expected.


we don't have a QB why would trade for a WR and then paying him a shit ton before we have a QB make any sense.

Just draft a cheap young WR with 6 if you really want one.
RE: RE: RE: Ok so what if we move to 3  
BleedBlue : 3/14/2024 10:15 am : link
In comment 16431390 AcidTest said:
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And Washington takes Maye? Not a fan of Daniels. Is JJ the backup plan?



I would think yes.



Why would we give up all that draft capital to move up to #3 for JJM? That's crazy.


why is that "crazy" if they think he is the guy, then he is the guy... maybe you and JS dont share the same opinion on JJ
RE: RE: RE: Ok so what if we move to 3  
GFAN52 : 3/14/2024 10:16 am : link
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And Washington takes Maye? Not a fan of Daniels. Is JJ the backup plan?



I would think yes.



Why would we give up all that draft capital to move up to #3 for JJM? That's crazy.


To ensure some team doesn’t trade with AZ I suppose. I’m still skeptical that NE misses out on drafting a QB after trading away Mac Jones.
RE: RE: A big move would be getting Justin Jefferson  
BleedBlue : 3/14/2024 10:17 am : link
In comment 16431391 mphbullet36 said:
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This would be a page out of Buffalo's playbook landing Stefon Diggs so Josh Allen had someone good to throw to. Schoen is obviously very familiar with that move. They gave up a 2020 1st (#20), 2020 5th, 2020 6th, and a 2021 4th. Jefferson is better than Diggs ever was/is, so a similar package using #6 overall would be expected.



we don't have a QB why would trade for a WR and then paying him a shit ton before we have a QB make any sense.

Just draft a cheap young WR with 6 if you really want one.


well... for starters he is the best WR in football and still very young lol...

ANY QB could benefit from that. shit tommy fucking cutlets would play better with JJ wide.

Also, if it DID include swaps, maybe giants like Nix/penix and look to make another move to secure nix if they dont think he is there at 11....
Giants need a QB  
JonC : 3/14/2024 10:19 am : link
more than Jefferson, in terms of where they're at right now and what they might be willing to move in trade.
It doesn’t make sense to make a move now  
Jaenyg : 3/14/2024 10:19 am : link
If we have Maye in mind. If we move to 3 today, in my opinion it’s because we are fine with 3 particular QBs and not 4.

If we are targeting Maye, I think we would have a deal in place with NE but can’t execute the deal if Maye is gone.
RE: RE: Plus  
UberAlias : 3/14/2024 10:20 am : link
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Good chance we’re going to see Denver or Vikings trade up to 4. So could also be that. There’s a lot out there about that.



As Sy has pointed out a number of times, a team outside the top 10 trading up into the 3rd or 4th spot would be unprecedented. The Giants should be able to top any Denver or Minny offer by virtue of having higher picks. Unless Minny’s throwing JJ in the trade…
Is NYG interested in dealing to 4 for JJM though? I'm not sure they are.
RE: Giants need a QB  
BleedBlue : 3/14/2024 10:20 am : link
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more than Jefferson, in terms of where they're at right now and what they might be willing to move in trade.


totally agree on this but if it was JJ... a QB is still possible this draft was my point...

that being said, i dont think its JJ


I have said several times both here on to friends if a team in top 3 is selling, giants are buying. they know they need a new face at Q
RE: RE: RE: RE: Ok so what if we move to 3  
AcidTest : 3/14/2024 10:22 am : link
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And Washington takes Maye? Not a fan of Daniels. Is JJ the backup plan?



I would think yes.



Why would we give up all that draft capital to move up to #3 for JJM? That's crazy.



why is that "crazy" if they think he is the guy, then he is the guy... maybe you and JS dont share the same opinion on JJ


Most massive move ups for QBs fail. Fifty percent of first round QBs bust.

The player picked at #6, plus the players we could have picked with the picks we traded, will very likely produce a better return than McCarthy.

After signing Jones to that ridiculous contract, Schoen hasn't earned the right to trade that amount of draft capital for any QB.

But do I think it will happen? Yup, I do. There is too much "internet chatter" that it will to make me believe it won't. But I hope it doesn't.
RE: RE: I would think it's 6 to 3 for Maye  
UberAlias : 3/14/2024 10:23 am : link
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not heard myself yet.



That would mean that Schoen is 100% sure the Commanders are going with Daniels at 2. Seems like a huge leap of faith with more than a month to go...
This ias been the million dollar question in my mind. Trade next year's 1 to NE to secure Maye. But if DC goes Maye instead of Daniels, I'm not convinced Daniels is NYGs target.
RE: RE: RE: Ok so what if we move to 3  
UberAlias : 3/14/2024 10:26 am : link
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And Washington takes Maye? Not a fan of Daniels. Is JJ the backup plan?



I would think yes.



Why would we give up all that draft capital to move up to #3 for JJM? That's crazy.
Agreed. That's why this speculation always came down to Washington's pick, IMO.
RE: RE: RE: Ok so what if we move to 3  
GaryR : 3/14/2024 10:27 am : link
In comment 16431390 AcidTest said:
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And Washington takes Maye? Not a fan of Daniels. Is JJ the backup plan?



I would think yes.



Why would we give up all that draft capital to move up to #3 for JJM? That's crazy.


I agree with the bold action..trading up for the QB you've identified as your favorite. Personally, I would hope it's not for JJM but, I'm just a fan and don't do this football thing for a living. If JJM is their choice, time will tell whether they got it right or not.
RE: I’d bet  
The Dude : 3/14/2024 10:28 am : link
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If it was a move in the draft we would’ve had some asshat clues.


The way BBI asshats were on Burns 70+ hours before anyone else, I'd agree.

So these are internet/twitter rumors, not BBIAssHats right?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Ok so what if we move to 3  
BleedBlue : 3/14/2024 10:28 am : link
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And Washington takes Maye? Not a fan of Daniels. Is JJ the backup plan?



I would think yes.



Why would we give up all that draft capital to move up to #3 for JJM? That's crazy.

Agreed. That's why this speculation always came down to Washington's pick, IMO.


maybe they have an equal grade on daniels and maye? or maybe maye and JJ and they dont care what washington does. i mean the only way you move to 3 NOW is

1. you have an equal grade on daniels and maye
2. you have an equal grade on maye and JJ and dont care what wash does
3. you know EXACTlY who wash takes
If Daboll loves a QB, go and get him  
US1 Giants : 3/14/2024 10:29 am : link
this chatter sounds like a trade-up for a QB.
BB  
UberAlias : 3/14/2024 10:29 am : link
Right. If they love both guys, then you do the trade and wait and see which guy you get.
I can't find any internet chatter, where should I be looking?  
PatersonPlank : 3/14/2024 10:29 am : link
Also Eric @ BBI has been silent on this, not sure what that means though
RE: RE: I’d bet  
IchabodGiant : 3/14/2024 10:30 am : link
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If it was a move in the draft we would’ve had some asshat clues.



The way BBI asshats were on Burns 70+ hours before anyone else, I'd agree.

So these are internet/twitter rumors, not BBIAssHats right?


GoDeep. BBI.
RE: Any other asshats hearing any noise out there?  
The Dude : 3/14/2024 10:30 am : link
In comment 16431333 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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ajr, Peppers, Rico?


It would be nice to have multiple confirmations
RE: RE: I’d bet  
PatersonPlank : 3/14/2024 10:31 am : link
In comment 16431415 The Dude said:
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If it was a move in the draft we would’ve had some asshat clues.



The way BBI asshats were on Burns 70+ hours before anyone else, I'd agree.

So these are internet/twitter rumors, not BBIAssHats right?


GoDeep13 mentioned he ha heard something.
An overpay to go from #6 to #3 would be okay to grab a top QB.  
nygiantfan : 3/14/2024 10:31 am : link
But to suggest it would take two #1s plus a #2 is silly.

Stay on the reservation people.
RE: Ok so what if we move to 3  
Strahan91 : 3/14/2024 10:32 am : link
In comment 16431377 The_Boss said:
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And Washington takes Maye? Not a fan of Daniels. Is JJ the backup plan?

Are you saying you're not a fan of Daniels or you don't think NYG is? Either way, all signs are pointing to Daniels at 2 right now anyways
Why would Hyatt have any idea  
Jaenyg : 3/14/2024 10:33 am : link
About the FO making draft trades?
I think this year's 2 is earmarked for a WR  
UberAlias : 3/14/2024 10:33 am : link
So that our new QB would have his #1 to work with. Next year's 1 and then a tax NE adds on top to convince them, say a third I think would do it.
RE: RE: RE: I’d bet  
The Dude : 3/14/2024 10:34 am : link
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If it was a move in the draft we would’ve had some asshat clues.



The way BBI asshats were on Burns 70+ hours before anyone else, I'd agree.

So these are internet/twitter rumors, not BBIAssHats right?



GoDeep. BBI.


ahhhh understood. He's not on my shortlist of asshats i usually know, but i'll take your word.
Don't think the Hyatt mention is relevant  
JonC : 3/14/2024 10:35 am : link
I don't think Daniels would be in play. Maye or JJ if the former is gone at #2.
RE: RE: A big move would be getting Justin Jefferson  
bigblueny : 3/14/2024 10:35 am : link
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This would be a page out of Buffalo's playbook landing Stefon Diggs so Josh Allen had someone good to throw to. Schoen is obviously very familiar with that move. They gave up a 2020 1st (#20), 2020 5th, 2020 6th, and a 2021 4th. Jefferson is better than Diggs ever was/is, so a similar package using #6 overall would be expected.



we don't have a QB why would trade for a WR and then paying him a shit ton before we have a QB make any sense.

Just draft a cheap young WR with 6 if you really want one.


I don’t think Schoen and Daboll agree with you that they don’t have a QB

RE: An overpay to go from #6 to #3 would be okay to grab a top QB.  
GFAN52 : 3/14/2024 10:35 am : link
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But to suggest it would take two #1s plus a #2 is silly.

Stay on the reservation people.


The Giants want to make them an offer that makes it hard for NE to say no, so yes it could very well include this years 1 and 2 and next years 1.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I’d bet  
IchabodGiant : 3/14/2024 10:36 am : link
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If it was a move in the draft we would’ve had some asshat clues.



The way BBI asshats were on Burns 70+ hours before anyone else, I'd agree.

So these are internet/twitter rumors, not BBIAssHats right?



GoDeep. BBI.



ahhhh understood. He's not on my shortlist of asshats i usually know, but i'll take your word.


He's right there at the top of BBI asshats. If there was an asshat HOF, he'd be in it!
RE: RE: Good Morning BBI  
djm : 3/14/2024 10:36 am : link
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interesting to see so many comments and predictions.

Part of me regrets even posting this, but when the posts were followed by the Hyatt post, I was drawn in.

And just to be clear- Wes Steinberg is a fraud and NO- this has nothing to do with anything he says.

At this point, you would think that some beat writer or national writer would have posted something to add credibility, but so far nothing.

I will leave this post up until Noon, but then it will be gone. I guess, if nothing else, it got a lot of traffic to Eric's site.

In case you missed it, within this post I mentioned two things that are factual:

1. Our new OL Jermaine Eluemunor actually posted that he will be in town today (guessing it will be similar to Burns yesterday).

2. NFL writer Aaron Wilson posted that the Giants are trying to sign DB Chase Lucas of the Lions. Lucas is considered one of the best ST gunners.

Y28. Your instincts are right. Got word something big is in the work. Schoen is pushing his chips to the center.


I hope NYG go to #1. 3 would be fine too, but I hope it's for Caleb. Whatever works.

Was thinking if the Giant come away this draft with their highly coveted young stud QB, Schoen can quietly boast he has a defense with 4 legit stars in the front 7, a somewhat talented and young secondary with plenty of upside, (granted we need a safety at least for depth) an improved OL and a franchise young cost controlled QB. Not a bad run since 2021.
RE: Why would Hyatt have any idea  
UberAlias : 3/14/2024 10:36 am : link
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About the FO making draft trades?
He wouldn't, but I believe that's why some speculated about Hooker. Hooker was his QB in college so Hyatt would likely get wind if Hooker was going to be dealt here. But it seems to me Hyatt tweet is incompatible with rumors of a HUGE deal.
to tempt NE to give up #3 now I think the 2025 first is the key  
Eric on Li : 3/14/2024 10:38 am : link
the OTC trade chart has the value difference of this 2 for 1 as NE getting extra value equivalent to the #63 pick in the draft (with obvious upside if the nyg suck and end up top 10 next year, which is always possible with a rookie qb).

ideally nyg could get back a 2025 3rd or 4th too but either way i think this a deal that gets NE thinking if they dont have a QB3 they love.

Could it be Hyatt was just thinking about lunch?  
Jim in Forest Hills : 3/14/2024 10:38 am : link
Wendy's has a $1 burger right now. ..soon..
RE: RE: An overpay to go from #6 to #3 would be okay to grab a top QB.  
JonC : 3/14/2024 10:38 am : link
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But to suggest it would take two #1s plus a #2 is silly.

Stay on the reservation people.



The Giants want to make them an offer that makes it hard for NE to say no, so yes it could very well include this years 1 and 2 and next years 1.


Yep, a premise of making it hard to say no. It would be pricey, but that's the point of being aggressive NOW.
RE: RE: An overpay to go from #6 to #3 would be okay to grab a top QB.  
nygiantfan : 3/14/2024 10:39 am : link
In comment 16431442 GFAN52 said:
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But to suggest it would take two #1s plus a #2 is silly.

Stay on the reservation people.



The Giants want to make them an offer that makes it hard for NE to say no, so yes it could very well include this years 1 and 2 and next years 1.


I don't think so.
You do get the sense  
UberAlias : 3/14/2024 10:40 am : link
NYG has a mindset that they're as close as they ever hope to get in the future --now is their chance so just make it happen.
RE: RE: RE: An overpay to go from #6 to #3 would be okay to grab a top QB.  
GFAN52 : 3/14/2024 10:41 am : link
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But to suggest it would take two #1s plus a #2 is silly.

Stay on the reservation people.



The Giants want to make them an offer that makes it hard for NE to say no, so yes it could very well include this years 1 and 2 and next years 1.



I don't think so.


I do, but we’ll see.
RE: RE: Why would Hyatt have any idea  
PatersonPlank : 3/14/2024 10:42 am : link
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About the FO making draft trades?

He wouldn't, but I believe that's why some speculated about Hooker. Hooker was his QB in college so Hyatt would likely get wind if Hooker was going to be dealt here. But it seems to me Hyatt tweet is incompatible with rumors of a HUGE deal.


He'd have knowledge if he was involved in it. He could be part of the package going somewhere
Don't forget Brandon Bean's quote about the Josh Allen trade  
UberAlias : 3/14/2024 10:43 am : link
“We got criticized a little bit for how much we gave up for Josh and I'm like, 'Well, if he doesn't work out, I'm not going to be here anyway. And if he does work out, nobody's going to give a (expletive). ' ”
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GFAN52 : 3/14/2024 10:43 am : link
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But to suggest it would take two #1s plus a #2 is silly.

Stay on the reservation people.



The Giants want to make them an offer that makes it hard for NE to say no, so yes it could very well include this years 1 and 2 and next years 1.



Yep, a premise of making it hard to say no. It would be pricey, but that's the point of being aggressive NOW.


It has to be an overpay as NE has the same need for a QB as the Giants do.
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UberAlias : 3/14/2024 10:44 am : link
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About the FO making draft trades?

He wouldn't, but I believe that's why some speculated about Hooker. Hooker was his QB in college so Hyatt would likely get wind if Hooker was going to be dealt here. But it seems to me Hyatt tweet is incompatible with rumors of a HUGE deal.



He'd have knowledge if he was involved in it. He could be part of the package going somewhere
This is true, if they were moving him as part of the deal. I'm just not sure "soon..." tweet conveys that. He could have meant almost anything though.
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Jim in Forest Hills : 3/14/2024 10:45 am : link
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About the FO making draft trades?

He wouldn't, but I believe that's why some speculated about Hooker. Hooker was his QB in college so Hyatt would likely get wind if Hooker was going to be dealt here. But it seems to me Hyatt tweet is incompatible with rumors of a HUGE deal.



He'd have knowledge if he was involved in it. He could be part of the package going somewhere


There could also be some agent gossip, like if his agent is the same as Maye's.
I’d be surprised if NE or AZ would be willing  
Section331 : 3/14/2024 10:45 am : link
to announce a deal this early. The price usually goes up at draft time, when teams become desperate. I guess the Colts did it almost to the day 6 years ago with the Jets, but the feeling was that the Jets overpaid. 2 2018 2nd rounders and a 2019 2nd rounder. Not having 2 2nd rounders this year likely means this year’s 2nd and next year’s 1st. Ouch.
RE: I’d be surprised if NE or AZ would be willing  
Strahan91 : 3/14/2024 10:47 am : link
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to announce a deal this early. The price usually goes up at draft time, when teams become desperate. I guess the Colts did it almost to the day 6 years ago with the Jets, but the feeling was that the Jets overpaid. 2 2018 2nd rounders and a 2019 2nd rounder. Not having 2 2nd rounders this year likely means this year’s 2nd and next year’s 1st. Ouch.

I don't fully understand it, but it does seem to happen a lot. Last year it happened with Carolina around this time, 2021 with SF, and in 2018 with the Jets as you mentioned
Going for #1 makes sense  
Chris684 : 3/14/2024 10:47 am : link
I'd rather give up more to have my pick of the litter, rather than give up a lot to still not control my destiny.

Is it possible the Bears re-assess their position given that Fields probably has more value to them than obviously the rest of the league.

They can get a haul from NYG including a future 1. They would still be positioned at 6 and 9 to make out like bandits this year. They get more time with Fields without any additional financial commitment to him and there's still the chance they wind up with JJ, Nix or Penix this year, or they are loaded for next year's QB class.
Nobody arguing that it doesn't have to be an overpay and expensive.  
nygiantfan : 3/14/2024 10:49 am : link
It just shouldn't be desperately stupid as some comments above reflect.
Hyatt.. Soon..  
blueblood : 3/14/2024 10:51 am : link
could mean anything. Fans need to stop trying to infer cryptic NFL player tweets. Maybe he is gong to start his training for the upcoming season “soon”
Maybe he is going to pic up his new house “soon”, maube he is going to propose to his girlfriend “soon”. Maybe his new TV is arriving “soon”

“Soon” could mean any damn thing.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/14/2024 10:51 am : link
If they have a conviction that one of these dudes is going to be a superstar, move heaven & earth to get him.
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