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Y28 : 3/13/2024 11:51 pm
I typically don’t pay any attention to internet chatter relating to the Giants.

But tonight I have seen 3 different posters (all with prior occasional accuracy) predicting an NFL team will be making a HUGE announcement tomorrow.

This was followed up by another Giants fan contacting me and showing me a 4th poster predicting a similar major move and actually mentioning it involved the Giants.

For those of you that have read my posts over many years know this is NOT the type of things I speculate on.

However, minutes ago, Giant WR Jalyn Hyatt actually just posted:

“soon…..”

I will not provide the handles of the 4 internet posters and provide them any more notoriety or activity

I can’t say that there is “fire” but I must admit all this has me smelling “smoke”- enough that I thought it was worthy of mention on BBI

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Even if nothing happens today  
Mike from Ohio : 3/14/2024 12:00 pm : link
that doesn't mean the chatter was not real. Nobody was reporting a deal was done, only that Schoen was trying to get something done. It is possible the Giants and NE simply can't reach a deal, even if they are working on one as is being reported.

I know it sucks because it is huge news, but to keep these guys sharing stuff we need to be reasonable with the expectations of what they share.
RE: They’ve been working on #3 for weeks  
Rjanyg : 3/14/2024 12:02 pm : link
In comment 16431616 ajr2456 said:
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Don’t know if it happens today or even this month though


I take it you have some inside contacts?
RE: They’ve been working on #3 for weeks  
Strahan91 : 3/14/2024 12:04 pm : link
In comment 16431616 ajr2456 said:
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Don’t know if it happens today or even this month though

GoDeep didn't mention any sort of timeline either so I'm not sure where the whole "it's happening today" came from
IIRC  
The Dude : 3/14/2024 12:07 pm : link
GoDeep gets grapevine info through agents/an agency?

other asshats seem more tapped into NYG themselves.
Well if they’ve been working on it for weeks  
bceagle05 : 3/14/2024 12:08 pm : link
at least that means NE has kept the door open.
I am by no means an NFL insider  
BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit : 3/14/2024 12:09 pm : link
but I do know some people in the athletic departments at some east coast schools, one of who is at UNC and is a fellow gmen fan.

FWIW Joe Schoen was personally at a few UNC games and talking to the coaches and staff specifically about Maye.

Probably just doing due diligence but I don't know how many Michigan or LSU games JS attended.
RE: RE: RE: Would anyone be surprised if Thibs was on the table  
djm : 3/14/2024 12:09 pm : link
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given the Brian Burns trade?



Slightly surprised, but the odds of Thibodeaux seeing a second contract here probably went down with the Burns deal.

They can get out of the Burns deal after 3 years, they also can keep Thibs for 3. They can pick 1 then or if both are playing well you still have a QB on a rookie deal..


The Giants love to pay multiple defensive attackers. They did it in the 80s. Did it in the 00s. They will do it again if the players are worthy. At one point the Giants were paying big bucks to Osi, Tuck, Kiwi and Canty and Bernard. Then they drafted JPP in round 1. They were also fresh off paying Strahan and guys like Robbins.

If Thibs delivers they will keep him.
it's also 3 years away  
djm : 3/14/2024 12:10 pm : link
eternity.
RE: Well if they’ve been working on it for weeks  
GiantGrit : 3/14/2024 12:12 pm : link
In comment 16431631 bceagle05 said:
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at least that means NE has kept the door open.


Good catch, I had the same thought. Biggest question to me is how much does NE like Maye? If at all?
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/14/2024 12:13 pm : link
Love this shit. Don’t delete & insiders keep posting.
When you are desperate  
Rudy5757 : 3/14/2024 12:13 pm : link
You are generally going to get taken to the cleaners. Sounds like the Giants are desperate.

My above comment was supposed to say Houston “didn’t” trade up to get Stroud and didn’t have a high salary QB on the roster.
RE: RE: Why would the Pats, who need a QB btw, trade down from 3 to 6?  
Optimus-NY : 3/14/2024 12:14 pm : link
In comment 16431580 robbieballs2003 said:
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It makes no sense.



There were rumors that some within the organization want to trade back and accumulate a bunch of future draft picks/capital. They want to be able to have the future freedom to target who they want. While I get your point, I get the other point too. This is year 1 of the new regime so if you were going to accumulate future picks then this is the year to do it. They want to play with a full stack.


There is such a thing as getting too cute though. They are in just as much need of a QB as the NYG are robbie, if not more. They're starting their rebuild. What better way to do it then with a QB to compliment the new HC and de facto GM Eliot Wolf (son of Ron).
RE: When you are desperate  
AcidTest : 3/14/2024 12:18 pm : link
In comment 16431640 Rudy5757 said:
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You are generally going to get taken to the cleaners. Sounds like the Giants are desperate.

My above comment was supposed to say Houston “didn’t” trade up to get Stroud and didn’t have a high salary QB on the roster.


+1.
GoDeep  
IchabodGiant : 3/14/2024 12:20 pm : link
is one of the best asshats we have on the site. When he posts, people need to listen.
RE: GoDeep  
The Dude : 3/14/2024 12:23 pm : link
In comment 16431647 IchabodGiant said:
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is one of the best asshats we have on the site. When he posts, people need to listen.


Fair, did he allude to anything happening TODAY though?
RE: When you are desperate  
ajr2456 : 3/14/2024 12:24 pm : link
In comment 16431640 Rudy5757 said:
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You are generally going to get taken to the cleaners. Sounds like the Giants are desperate.

My above comment was supposed to say Houston “didn’t” trade up to get Stroud and didn’t have a high salary QB on the roster.


It’s irrelevant that the giants have a high salary QB on the roster. He’s gone within the next 12 months
Could the big news involving the Giants be  
US1 Giants : 3/14/2024 12:26 pm : link
the Eagles tampering with Barkley?
RE: Could the big news involving the Giants be  
Saos1n : 3/14/2024 12:28 pm : link
In comment 16431654 US1 Giants said:
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the Eagles tampering with Barkley?


No. That’s a penalty assessed to the Eagles, not awarded to the Giants
RE: When you are desperate  
Darwinian : 3/14/2024 12:28 pm : link
In comment 16431640 Rudy5757 said:
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You are generally going to get taken to the cleaners. Sounds like the Giants are desperate.

My above comment was supposed to say Houston “didn’t” trade up to get Stroud and didn’t have a high salary QB on the roster.


If you get a great QB no amount is too much. If he turns into a pro bowler nobody will look back and complain about an extra first round pick.
The chatter for 3 makes so much sense  
Sean : 3/14/2024 12:30 pm : link
Schoen has no choice. Minnesota is lurking and will likely make a huge offer to 4 or 5. If Schoen sits tight, he'll be shut out of the top 4 QBs.
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blueblood : 3/14/2024 12:33 pm : link
In comment 16431584 robbieballs2003 said:
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Evan Tarracciano
@Roto_Wizard
Hearing something big is in the works for the #Giants today.... hmmm....



He reads BBI. Lol


exactly what I was thinking
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leatherneck570 : 3/14/2024 12:37 pm : link
In comment 16431663 blueblood said:
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Evan Tarracciano
@Roto_Wizard
Hearing something big is in the works for the #Giants today.... hmmm....



He reads BBI. Lol



exactly what I was thinking


He then quickly backtracked when pressed, stating he was just referring to info that’s already out there about trying to move up. He’s full of it.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/14/2024 12:38 pm : link
If the Giants get a stud QB, no one is going to give a fuck about what we gave up.
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IchabodGiant : 3/14/2024 12:40 pm : link
In comment 16431673 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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If the Giants get a stud QB, no one is going to give a fuck about what we gave up.


yup.
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Harvest Blend : 3/14/2024 12:43 pm : link
In comment 16431673 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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If the Giants get a stud QB, no one is going to give a fuck about what we gave up.


Ok, but to be fair, if they give it up and DON'T get the stud QB a la Carolina last year, then what?
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Darwinian : 3/14/2024 12:43 pm : link
In comment 16431679 Harvest Blend said:
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If the Giants get a stud QB, no one is going to give a fuck about what we gave up.



Ok, but to be fair, if they give it up and DON'T get the stud QB a la Carolina last year, then what?


Then you take another swing in two years.
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ILGMan : 3/14/2024 12:44 pm : link
In comment 16431679 Harvest Blend said:
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If the Giants get a stud QB, no one is going to give a fuck about what we gave up.



Ok, but to be fair, if they give it up and DON'T get the stud QB a la Carolina last year, then what?


Helluva way to go through life
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Harvest Blend : 3/14/2024 12:46 pm : link
In comment 16431682 ILGMan said:
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If the Giants get a stud QB, no one is going to give a fuck about what we gave up.



Ok, but to be fair, if they give it up and DON'T get the stud QB a la Carolina last year, then what?



Helluva way to go through life


A football draft isn't life.
#3  
LittleBlue : 3/14/2024 12:46 pm : link
Wouldn't it be a bit weird to spend a huge amount of draft capital to move to #3 and not know who is available? You'd have to have a very similar grade on 2-3 players. Normally you see these major trade-ups when a team is in love with a particular player.
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56goat : 3/14/2024 12:50 pm : link
In comment 16431682 ILGMan said:
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If the Giants get a stud QB, no one is going to give a fuck about what we gave up.



Ok, but to be fair, if they give it up and DON'T get the stud QB a la Carolina last year, then what?



Helluva way to go through life


"Fat drunk and stupid is now way to go thru life son."
Hopefully JS is creating some momentum  
Darwinian : 3/14/2024 12:51 pm : link
with NE talks to get to #3 and a possible pick of DM, and the Bears feel compelled to get involved and we acquire #1 instead to claim the best QB in the draft - CW.
RE: Well if they’ve been working on it for weeks  
GFAN52 : 3/14/2024 12:55 pm : link
In comment 16431631 bceagle05 said:
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at least that means NE has kept the door open.


My sense is they have been talking for weeks in what NE might be willing to take and perhaps the answer from NE has been not interested. The latest information last/night today may suggest that the Giants are going all in an offer that would make even harder for NE to say no.

If their decision is still no, at least the Giants tried and then can move onto their next draft plan, whether that's try to guarantee a 4th QB with a trade to AZ or LA, or sit tight at 6.
Just seeing this now  
Danny Kanell : 3/14/2024 12:57 pm : link
Anything of substance since the OP? Hard to go through all these pages of posts.
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GaryR : 3/14/2024 12:57 pm : link
In comment 16431683 Harvest Blend said:
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If the Giants get a stud QB, no one is going to give a fuck about what we gave up.



Ok, but to be fair, if they give it up and DON'T get the stud QB a la Carolina last year, then what?



Helluva way to go through life



A football draft isn't life.


I agree that the draft is not life. So the risk of not hitting on a QB is not life threatening. Someone might get fired but that's it.

We have to try to improve and can't be overly concerned with failure.


RE: Just seeing this now  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/14/2024 12:58 pm : link
In comment 16431696 Danny Kanell said:
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Anything of substance since the OP? Hard to go through all these pages of posts.


ajr said Schoen is trying to get to 3.
RE: RE: Just seeing this now  
Danny Kanell : 3/14/2024 12:58 pm : link
In comment 16431698 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Anything of substance since the OP? Hard to go through all these pages of posts.



ajr said Schoen is trying to get to 3.


Thank you, sir.
i guess Schoen has decided  
LittleBlue : 3/14/2024 1:00 pm : link
he is all in on Marvin Harrison Jr. to fix Daniel Jones!

(ducking for cover)
Bottom Line folks:  
Optimus-NY : 3/14/2024 1:00 pm : link
New England isn't trading out of the 3rd spot. They're taking a QB. Simple.
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The_Boss : 3/14/2024 1:00 pm : link
In comment 16431699 Danny Kanell said:
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Anything of substance since the OP? Hard to go through all these pages of posts.



ajr said Schoen is trying to get to 3.



Thank you, sir.


Might not happen today, this week, or month, but it could…
RE: Bottom Line folks:  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/14/2024 1:02 pm : link
In comment 16431702 Optimus-NY said:
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New England isn't trading out of the 3rd spot. They're taking a QB. Simple.

I mean, I guess we'll see, right? That seems to be the crux of the rumor, so it'll either happen or it won't. Any objection to discussing it the same way we would any other rumor?
If you trade the 2025 1st,  
BleedBlue46 : 3/14/2024 1:02 pm : link
You have to go all in on 2024 to be a solid year, the Burns trade helps. Maybe another trade or big signing. Think of the Texans last draft, they made a big trade up for Will Anderson Jr trading their 2025 pick everyone assumed would be top 12 at worst top 5 at best. They ended up going all in and the pick they traded was 25(?).

I think keeping all picks this year and trading up in every spot possible to get your guy would be the way to go. For instance, if they love a particular wr who slides to the end of rd 1 or beginning of rd2, trade up for him. If Benson slides to the end of rd2 or beginning of rd3, trade up for him.

I have faith in Dabka getting a rookie qb to perform well, we all know they are good at making it easy for qbs (see dj in 2022). So it's not too far fetched to imagine a scenario in which we exceed expectations after a huge offseason and with a much easier schedule.

This, and obviously hitting on the qb pick, would make trading the 2025 1st look like highway robbery for the 3rd pick. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility.
RE: Bottom Line folks:  
GiantTuff1 : 3/14/2024 1:02 pm : link
In comment 16431702 Optimus-NY said:
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New England isn't trading out of the 3rd spot. They're taking a QB. Simple.

Keep up the reverse psychology, I think it's working.
Thread closing in on 20,000 views  
GiantTuff1 : 3/14/2024 1:03 pm : link
lol
RE: Bottom Line folks:  
The Dude : 3/14/2024 1:04 pm : link
In comment 16431702 Optimus-NY said:
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New England isn't trading out of the 3rd spot. They're taking a QB. Simple.


Well that settles it
Also, if NE does indeed like Nix a lot,  
BleedBlue46 : 3/14/2024 1:04 pm : link
Which is what some folks have said. Then trading down to 6 for a 2025 first and 3rd or so makes great sense. Who knows they might like Nix more than Maye and JJM.
RE: Even if nothing happens today  
Section331 : 3/14/2024 1:05 pm : link
In comment 16431621 Mike from Ohio said:
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that doesn't mean the chatter was not real. Nobody was reporting a deal was done, only that Schoen was trying to get something done. It is possible the Giants and NE simply can't reach a deal, even if they are working on one as is being reported.

I know it sucks because it is huge news, but to keep these guys sharing stuff we need to be reasonable with the expectations of what they share.


100%. Just because a trade doesn’t happen doesn’t mean the asshat was wrong. Things change. Schoen could be working hard on NE to trade the pick, but at some point, the cost may become too rich. That doesn’t make the poster wrong.
RE: Thread closing in on 20,000 views  
Mdgiantsfan : 3/14/2024 1:06 pm : link
In comment 16431708 GiantTuff1 said:
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lol


I’m on vacation in Aruba and I cannot stop hitting the refresh button. This is like digitally crack 😂
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djm : 3/14/2024 1:06 pm : link
In comment 16431673 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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If the Giants get a stud QB, no one is going to give a fuck about what we gave up.


It really is true. Think about it, the Giants gave up nothing to draft the likes of Dave Brown and Jones--they used one pick each time on each player. Both failed. Everyone cared. NY gave up 3 additional picks for Eli. No one cares.

NE may love  
GiantGrit : 3/14/2024 1:08 pm : link
Jayden Daniels. The Giants may not want Jayden Daniels. Lets say thats the case (i’m making this up, don’t get any ideas lol)

Would it benefit either team to finalize a trade without seeing who Washington takes?

Remember, Schoen and Baalke set the Banks trade up days prior.

NE isn’t going to tip their hand on who they like; maybe they secretly love Nix or Penix and want to trade down after squeezing extra picks out of the Giants or someone else.

For a lot of different reasons I don’t think you would see an imminent trade.

Schoen’s persistence does tell me he wants a top 3 QB and is either ok with multiple guys or he’s very confident in the top 2 picks and who will be there at 3.
It  
AcidTest : 3/14/2024 1:08 pm : link
sounds like Joe has gone into full panic mode because Minnesota and Denver might be trying to leapfrog us. So he has to get to three to leapfrog them after they leapfrog us. And all of this is apparently for JJM.
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