Hughes reports that the "buzz is there" that J.J. McCarthy is the player the Giants want in the draft.
League sources spoke highly of McCarthy when polled by SNY. One high-ranking executive said he’ll be a 'better pro than college player.' Another general manager said he has everything teams look for — size, athleticism, arm strength, accuracy, played in a pro-style offense. He added 'he’s also very coachable.'"
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I think it's important to support our team's sportswriters and although I didn't click on the link myself (out of principle), I'm happy for Mr. Hughes that others were more supportive. We all need to put food on the table and nobody got hurt. And it gave me another chance to lecture people on their gullibility/selective stupidity (and again, I say "selective" because they would be calling you on your bullshit if you were saying something they didn't want to hear rather than something they do want to hear).
Just to be clear, while you may think you are lecturing people, what you are really doing is showing everybody how poorly you think about football by taking poor stances and opinions on NYG topics.
I like my odds of being correct by just going with the opposing opinion than yours. On anything.
Most of us watched him play for 2-3 years and thought..
"he's just an average QB, not real potential"
Then he puts on a tshirt and shorts and throws at the combine, now its...
"thats the guy i want at 6"
I dont get it
JJMs "rise" started before the combine just based on tape.
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You got ajr2456 to post a link to your story even though it contained nothing new and on top of that, he misrepresented it with a headline suggesting you had some actual information that the Giants want JJ McCarthy when it was just a rehashing of the "buzz" we heard during the combine, "buzz" being a word that suggests "smoke" rather than "hot air" and we all know where there is smoke there is fire, where there is hot air there is just more of the same speculation.
I think it's important to support our team's sportswriters and although I didn't click on the link myself (out of principle), I'm happy for Mr. Hughes that others were more supportive. We all need to put food on the table and nobody got hurt. And it gave me another chance to lecture people on their gullibility/selective stupidity (and again, I say "selective" because they would be calling you on your bullshit if you were saying something they didn't want to hear rather than something they do want to hear).
Just to be clear, while you may think you are lecturing people, what you are really doing is showing everybody how poorly you think about football by taking poor stances and opinions on NYG topics.
I like my odds of being correct by just going with the opposing opinion than yours. On anything.
I don't think anyone here is like hey what does ThomasG think. Your opinion isn't as valued as you think.
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In comment 16433602 Milton said:
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You got ajr2456 to post a link to your story even though it contained nothing new and on top of that, he misrepresented it with a headline suggesting you had some actual information that the Giants want JJ McCarthy when it was just a rehashing of the "buzz" we heard during the combine, "buzz" being a word that suggests "smoke" rather than "hot air" and we all know where there is smoke there is fire, where there is hot air there is just more of the same speculation.
I think it's important to support our team's sportswriters and although I didn't click on the link myself (out of principle), I'm happy for Mr. Hughes that others were more supportive. We all need to put food on the table and nobody got hurt. And it gave me another chance to lecture people on their gullibility/selective stupidity (and again, I say "selective" because they would be calling you on your bullshit if you were saying something they didn't want to hear rather than something they do want to hear).
Just to be clear, while you may think you are lecturing people, what you are really doing is showing everybody how poorly you think about football by taking poor stances and opinions on NYG topics.
I like my odds of being correct by just going with the opposing opinion than yours. On anything.
I don't think anyone here is like hey what does ThomasG think. Your opinion isn't as valued as you think.
If you and I aren’t on the same page then I think I’m feeling good. Thanks.
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In comment 16433602 Milton said:
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You got ajr2456 to post a link to your story even though it contained nothing new and on top of that, he misrepresented it with a headline suggesting you had some actual information that the Giants want JJ McCarthy when it was just a rehashing of the "buzz" we heard during the combine, "buzz" being a word that suggests "smoke" rather than "hot air" and we all know where there is smoke there is fire, where there is hot air there is just more of the same speculation.
I think it's important to support our team's sportswriters and although I didn't click on the link myself (out of principle), I'm happy for Mr. Hughes that others were more supportive. We all need to put food on the table and nobody got hurt. And it gave me another chance to lecture people on their gullibility/selective stupidity (and again, I say "selective" because they would be calling you on your bullshit if you were saying something they didn't want to hear rather than something they do want to hear).
Just to be clear, while you may think you are lecturing people, what you are really doing is showing everybody how poorly you think about football by taking poor stances and opinions on NYG topics.
I like my odds of being correct by just going with the opposing opinion than yours. On anything.
I don't think anyone here is like hey what does ThomasG think. Your opinion isn't as valued as you think.
If you and I aren’t on the same page then I think I’m feeling good. Thanks.
I hope you feel that way with most posters here. You will be feeling great!
We know, you want more weapons for Daniel.
Most of us watched him play for 2-3 years and thought..
"he's just an average QB, not real potential"
Then he puts on a tshirt and shorts and throws at the combine, now its...
"thats the guy i want at 6"
I dont get it
If you saw him play in 2022 and 2023, then you would have seen a QB who improved in 2023 compared to 2022.
Besides - none of us has on this board expertise as a scout except for Sy.
The truth here is likely that they are WILLING to draft McCarthy if he is the only one left on the board at #6. By floating this out there now, it will not appear that they settled on McCarthy.
IMO, the Giants should already have a trade worked out with Arizona if Maye is still on the board after New England makes their pick. However, Maye seems like the guy who New England would draft.
The truth here is likely that they are WILLING to draft McCarthy if he is the only one left on the board at #6. By floating this out there now, it will not appear that they settled on McCarthy.
IMO, the Giants should already have a trade worked out with Arizona if Maye is still on the board after New England makes their pick. However, Maye seems like the guy who New England would draft.
I don't think AZ is moving off MHj... Now that it is almost a lock for them to get him I think they are not going anywhere. So I would look to trade up to #5 in place.
Will NE move out? I am thinking no. I think NE likes Maye.
Will AZ miss out on MHJ to move out for anybody? I think no.
I think it is all about LA Chargers who have a QB.
If NYG can trade up with LA in normal situation it will take a 3rd round pick tops but this is not normal. I would try a 2025 2nd round pick first, if not then maybe 2024 2nd round pick but get LA's 3rd.
Schoen has his work cut out for himself.
I feel like neither the Cards nor the Chargers are going to want to risk losing out on top receivers. The Chargers no longer have Allen or Williams.
The truth here is likely that they are WILLING to draft McCarthy if he is the only one left on the board at #6. By floating this out there now, it will not appear that they settled on McCarthy.
IMO, the Giants should already have a trade worked out with Arizona if Maye is still on the board after New England makes their pick. However, Maye seems like the guy who New England would draft.
I think the Giants are going QB-WR with their top two picks. Given the age of the roster, it's the perfect time to slide in a rookie first round QB. It makes too much sense. I agree that Maye is the likely target but they'd be thrilled with McCarthy.
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How much will they give up to get him is the question.
Will NE move out? I am thinking no. I think NE likes Maye.
Will AZ miss out on MHJ to move out for anybody? I think no.
I think it is all about LA Chargers who have a QB.
If NYG can trade up with LA in normal situation it will take a 3rd round pick tops but this is not normal. I would try a 2025 2nd round pick first, if not then maybe 2024 2nd round pick but get LA's 3rd.
Schoen has his work cut out for himself.
I feel like neither the Cards nor the Chargers are going to want to risk losing out on top receivers. The Chargers no longer have Allen or Williams.
If the Chargers trade with the Giants (assuming the first three picks are QB and then MH Jr), they'd have their choice of Odunze or Nabers. This is also why I think the Giants are a much better trade partner for the Chargers than Minnesota.
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How much will they give up to get him is the question.
Will NE move out? I am thinking no. I think NE likes Maye.
Will AZ miss out on MHJ to move out for anybody? I think no.
I think it is all about LA Chargers who have a QB.
If NYG can trade up with LA in normal situation it will take a 3rd round pick tops but this is not normal. I would try a 2025 2nd round pick first, if not then maybe 2024 2nd round pick but get LA's 3rd.
Schoen has his work cut out for himself.
I feel like neither the Cards nor the Chargers are going to want to risk losing out on top receivers. The Chargers no longer have Allen or Williams.
I don’t think WR is the first place Harbaugh is looking to start building that team. He’s going to build it from the inside out
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How much will they give up to get him is the question.
Will NE move out? I am thinking no. I think NE likes Maye.
Will AZ miss out on MHJ to move out for anybody? I think no.
I think it is all about LA Chargers who have a QB.
If NYG can trade up with LA in normal situation it will take a 3rd round pick tops but this is not normal. I would try a 2025 2nd round pick first, if not then maybe 2024 2nd round pick but get LA's 3rd.
Schoen has his work cut out for himself.
I feel like neither the Cards nor the Chargers are going to want to risk losing out on top receivers. The Chargers no longer have Allen or Williams.
If the Chargers trade with the Giants (assuming the first three picks are QB and then MH Jr), they'd have their choice of Odunze or Nabers. This is also why I think the Giants are a much better trade partner for the Chargers than Minnesota.
Chargers would still have an opportunity for a top WR or OT their choice, in a trade with the Giants.
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Because JJ McCarthy is not a top 10 NFL prospect, that's why.
For someone he railed against other people for speaking in absolutes about Daniel Jones wasn’t good, this is both funny and incredibly ironic.
You don’t think that, but clearly the NFL and the Giants do.
Here's the difference between you and me:
I state what my opinion is. I don't pretend to know what the Giants think or what they will do. I say what I think they'll do.
You say things like "clearly the NFL and Giants think McCarthy is a top 10 prospect" and you have next to zero information to back this up. You have zero sources within the Giants orginization. You have no inside or asshat scoop.
But you also said McCarthy is not a top ten prospect. What, is the absence of the word "clearly" a meaningful distinction between that statement and ajr's?
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McCarthy is young, athletic and part of his "sudden" draft rise is that his ability to read and process defenses might be the strongest in this class. One of the best football coaches on the planet likes his game enough to call him the number 1 QB in the class.
Two things. What do you expect Harbaugh to say? Seriously?
No one knows if McCarthy or any of these prospects can process and read an NFL defense.
NFL defenses are bigger, stronger, faster, more complicated, smarter, etc. It's not really the same game.
Fwiw, Harbaugh didn't have to say anything. He certainly didn't have to tout NcCarthy as the the #1 QB in the draft.
The fighting on here is going to be epic. LOL
I think it's important to support our team's sportswriters and although I didn't click on the link myself (out of principle), I'm happy for Mr. Hughes that others were more supportive. We all need to put food on the table and nobody got hurt. And it gave me another chance to lecture people on their gullibility/selective stupidity (and again, I say "selective" because they would be calling you on your bullshit if you were saying something they didn't want to hear rather than something they do want to hear).
Milton has become a garbage poster.
Or Nabers.
The fighting on here is going to be epic. LOL
I am going to give you a preview... if they don't take a QB 90% will have a meltdown. If they trade up for a QB 90% will have a meltdown. If they stay put and draft a QB 90% will have a meltdown they got the wrong one and should have traded up.
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You got ajr2456 to post a link to your story even though it contained nothing new and on top of that, he misrepresented it with a headline suggesting you had some actual information that the Giants want JJ McCarthy when it was just a rehashing of the "buzz" we heard during the combine, "buzz" being a word that suggests "smoke" rather than "hot air" and we all know where there is smoke there is fire, where there is hot air there is just more of the same speculation.
I think it's important to support our team's sportswriters and although I didn't click on the link myself (out of principle), I'm happy for Mr. Hughes that others were more supportive. We all need to put food on the table and nobody got hurt. And it gave me another chance to lecture people on their gullibility/selective stupidity (and again, I say "selective" because they would be calling you on your bullshit if you were saying something they didn't want to hear rather than something they do want to hear).
Milton has become a garbage poster.
It’s brutal. He takes anything that suggests moving on from Jones very personally. Of course, he was the same way about Josh Rosen leading up to that draft so we are all fully aware that his taste in QBs absolutely sucks
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You got ajr2456 to post a link to your story even though it contained nothing new and on top of that, he misrepresented it with a headline suggesting you had some actual information that the Giants want JJ McCarthy when it was just a rehashing of the "buzz" we heard during the combine, "buzz" being a word that suggests "smoke" rather than "hot air" and we all know where there is smoke there is fire, where there is hot air there is just more of the same speculation.
I think it's important to support our team's sportswriters and although I didn't click on the link myself (out of principle), I'm happy for Mr. Hughes that others were more supportive. We all need to put food on the table and nobody got hurt. And it gave me another chance to lecture people on their gullibility/selective stupidity (and again, I say "selective" because they would be calling you on your bullshit if you were saying something they didn't want to hear rather than something they do want to hear).
Milton has become a garbage poster.
It’s brutal. He takes anything that suggests moving on from Jones very personally. Of course, he was the same way about Josh Rosen leading up to that draft so we are all fully aware that his taste in QBs absolutely sucks
Hey now... A lot of people like Josh Rosen. People like to try and claim to be Josh Allen people or Lammar Jackson people, but most people were Sam Darnold people and I hated him.
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In comment 16433602 Milton said:
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You got ajr2456 to post a link to your story even though it contained nothing new and on top of that, he misrepresented it with a headline suggesting you had some actual information that the Giants want JJ McCarthy when it was just a rehashing of the "buzz" we heard during the combine, "buzz" being a word that suggests "smoke" rather than "hot air" and we all know where there is smoke there is fire, where there is hot air there is just more of the same speculation.
I think it's important to support our team's sportswriters and although I didn't click on the link myself (out of principle), I'm happy for Mr. Hughes that others were more supportive. We all need to put food on the table and nobody got hurt. And it gave me another chance to lecture people on their gullibility/selective stupidity (and again, I say "selective" because they would be calling you on your bullshit if you were saying something they didn't want to hear rather than something they do want to hear).
Milton has become a garbage poster.
It’s brutal. He takes anything that suggests moving on from Jones very personally. Of course, he was the same way about Josh Rosen leading up to that draft so we are all fully aware that his taste in QBs absolutely sucks
Hey now... A lot of people like Josh Rosen. People like to try and claim to be Josh Allen people or Lammar Jackson people, but most people were Sam Darnold people and I hated him.
You clearly don’t remember that time period. Milton was in full bloom love with Rosen. He was incessant about it. You’d have thought they were related. Much like how he feels about Jones now. His behavior was embarrassing then and it’s embarrassing now. Except for he’s seemingly gotten angrier as time has gone on. He’s now an angry little clown
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You got ajr2456 to post a link to your story even though it contained nothing new and on top of that, he misrepresented it with a headline suggesting you had some actual information that the Giants want JJ McCarthy when it was just a rehashing of the "buzz" we heard during the combine, "buzz" being a word that suggests "smoke" rather than "hot air" and we all know where there is smoke there is fire, where there is hot air there is just more of the same speculation.
I think it's important to support our team's sportswriters and although I didn't click on the link myself (out of principle), I'm happy for Mr. Hughes that others were more supportive. We all need to put food on the table and nobody got hurt. And it gave me another chance to lecture people on their gullibility/selective stupidity (and again, I say "selective" because they would be calling you on your bullshit if you were saying something they didn't want to hear rather than something they do want to hear).
Milton has become a garbage poster.
It’s brutal. He takes anything that suggests moving on from Jones very personally. Of course, he was the same way about Josh Rosen leading up to that draft so we are all fully aware that his taste in QBs absolutely sucks
Hey now... A lot of people like Josh Rosen. People like to try and claim to be Josh Allen people or Lammar Jackson people, but most people were Sam Darnold people and I hated him.
You clearly don’t remember that time period. Milton was in full bloom love with Rosen. He was incessant about it. You’d have thought they were related. Much like how he feels about Jones now. His behavior was embarrassing then and it’s embarrassing now. Except for he’s seemingly gotten angrier as time has gone on. He’s now an angry little clown
You are right I don't remember it. He isn't someone I really pay a lot of attention too. I didn't realize it was that obsessive.
Milton has become a garbage poster.
It’s brutal. He takes anything that suggests moving on from Jones very personally.
It's not personal, it's strictly business.
That’s my fear. Why make this trade if you don’t have preliminary agreements in place?
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Vikings don’t make that trade if they don’t have something else in place
That’s my fear. Why make this trade if you don’t have preliminary agreements in place?
I think we probably made our best offer and told them that was our best offer, which was reported here by GoDeep13. The Pats then were able to tell the Vikings what would get it done which was probably 3 1sts and a 3rd or something like that. Which led to the Vikings asking around trying to get another 1st, found the Texans and asked if that would do it for the Patriots and they have an agreement in place. The timing is too synchronous with GoDeep13's report saying we were putting it all on the table and making the Pats say no. It was probably pick 6, 2025 1st and maybe a bit more. The Pats decided they'd rather have pick 11, 23 and Vikings 2025 1st plus a third. This is presumably because they like Bo Nix imo.
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You got ajr2456 to post a link to your story even though it contained nothing new and on top of that, he misrepresented it with a headline suggesting you had some actual information that the Giants want JJ McCarthy when it was just a rehashing of the "buzz" we heard during the combine, "buzz" being a word that suggests "smoke" rather than "hot air" and we all know where there is smoke there is fire, where there is hot air there is just more of the same speculation.
I think it's important to support our team's sportswriters and although I didn't click on the link myself (out of principle), I'm happy for Mr. Hughes that others were more supportive. We all need to put food on the table and nobody got hurt. And it gave me another chance to lecture people on their gullibility/selective stupidity (and again, I say "selective" because they would be calling you on your bullshit if you were saying something they didn't want to hear rather than something they do want to hear).
What “information” do you want ?
That's what irks me. You don't need to name names, but give us something more than just buzz, because buzz can be anything from anyone at anytime.
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You got ajr2456 to post a link to your story even though it contained nothing new and on top of that, he misrepresented it with a headline suggesting you had some actual information that the Giants want JJ McCarthy when it was just a rehashing of the "buzz" we heard during the combine, "buzz" being a word that suggests "smoke" rather than "hot air" and we all know where there is smoke there is fire, where there is hot air there is just more of the same speculation.
I think it's important to support our team's sportswriters and although I didn't click on the link myself (out of principle), I'm happy for Mr. Hughes that others were more supportive. We all need to put food on the table and nobody got hurt. And it gave me another chance to lecture people on their gullibility/selective stupidity (and again, I say "selective" because they would be calling you on your bullshit if you were saying something they didn't want to hear rather than something they do want to hear).
What “information” do you want ?
I just want reporters to be honest about from where and when they are getting their information. Is it from inside the building? From another team (with an agenda)? Or an agent (with an agenda)? Is this new "buzz" or the same old buzz that was reported a month ago? Hughes says "there is buzz" that the Giants want McCarthy: well there was "buzz" at the combine that they liked McCarthy, so is this something new or just gratuitous clickbait? And what does "buzz" actually mean other than people are talking. Of course people are talking, they're always talking, but who are these people? Anyone who comes on BBI can then go on Twitter and say "there is buzz that the Giants will sit Jones the whole year to avoid triggering the injury guarantee" but it's "buzz" from a bunch of wishful thinking Jones-bashers with nothing but their dick in their hands.
That's what irks me. You don't need to name names, but give us something more than just buzz, because buzz can be anything from anyone at anytime.
I get the feeling a lot of leaks come directly from Mara and his family.
I like my odds of being correct by just going with the opposing opinion than yours. On anything.
Milton has become a garbage poster.
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Milton has become a garbage poster.
Remember when you said I was making a fool of myself for insisting the Giants would draft a QB in 2004 even if it meant trading up? You were so damn sure the Giants would re-sign Collins. I'm the same "garbage poster" now as I was back then.
As I said, you've BECOME a garbage poster.
Not only did Connor Hughes cover the Giants for BBI, he was the first non-BBI source to break the Brian Burns trade.
But you dismiss him because you don't like the message.
Your ludicrous posts during the 2023 season about the Giants still being in it were just the tip of the iceberg.
It's too bad because I don't remember you being like this.
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Milton has become a garbage poster.
Remember when you said I was making a fool of myself for insisting the Giants would draft a QB in 2004 even if it meant trading up? You were so damn sure the Giants would re-sign Collins. I'm the same "garbage poster" now as I was back then.
I just think you shouldn't let personal bias based on your opinion get in the way of being open minded to what professionals say and think. I wasn't a fan of JJM until spending a lot of hours watching his all 22, every play over and over. Then research into his background and demeanor and reports on him. I became a big fan about a week or two before Sy made his video comparing JJM and DM.
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Milton has become a garbage poster.
Remember when you said I was making a fool of myself for insisting the Giants would draft a QB in 2004 even if it meant trading up? You were so damn sure the Giants would re-sign Collins. I'm the same "garbage poster" now as I was back then.
As I said, you've BECOME a garbage poster.
Not only did Connor Hughes cover the Giants for BBI, he was the first non-BBI source to break the Brian Burns trade.
But you dismiss him because you don't like the message.
Your ludicrous posts during the 2023 season about the Giants still being in it were just the tip of the iceberg.
It's too bad because I don't remember you being like this.
+1
from what I have seen the Giants havent even had serious meetings with Penix.. if they were interested in him @ 6 they would have met with him..
from what I have seen the Giants havent even had serious meetings with Penix.. if they were interested in him @ 6 they would have met with him..
But where you're really off is the comparison to Daniel Jones. I've stated my opinion time and time again, but you insist on pretending it's otherwise in order to fit your narrative. You believe what you want to believe. As for the personal attacks, I don't even know who you are, I can't remember a single thing you've posted, but it mostly has to do with your moniker, which blends in with a dozen others on BBI (were you a Shockey fan or something?).
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from what I have seen the Giants havent even had serious meetings with Penix.. if they were interested in him @ 6 they would have met with him..
With his age past and age, not a chance.
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I like my odds of being correct by just going with the opposing opinion than yours. On anything.
Okay, so my opinion is that the Giants should draft a QB, including with the 6th overall pick, if there is a prospect they deem worthy. Does that mean we're on the same page or not on the same page?
Hey buzz!
Link - ( New Window )
You guys believe in smoke screens way too much. They don’t work.
But you dismiss him because you don't like the message.
My apologies to Connor Hughes if I was too harsh, I didn't actually click on the link, so maybe he elaborated further with something other than "there is buzz" because there was buzz at the combine, so as far as I'm concerned this was not new information (and nobody clarified the root of the so-called buzz even back then). As many are fond of saying, this is lying season and it's important to know where a source came from. It doesn't have to be in the form of a name, but is it from "inside the building" (as they're fond of saying) or outside the building, where many sources may have an agenda (for instance, trying to provoke a trade ahead of the Giants by another team).
Agreed. I think this basic and key point escapes some people. The NYG are still in a pretty good position to trade up.
100%
If Washington takes Maye, we might not get Maye or JJM.
I think it's important to support our team's sportswriters and although I didn't click on the link myself (out of principle), I'm happy for Mr. Hughes that others were more supportive. We all need to put food on the table and nobody got hurt. And it gave me another chance to lecture people on their gullibility/selective stupidity (and again, I say "selective" because they would be calling you on your bullshit if you were saying something they didn't want to hear rather than something they do want to hear).
So arrogant, pretentious and condescending.
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If I wanted Nabors to fall in my lap at six ,I would spread a rumor about a buzz on McCarthy so someone could trade with LA at five for him so Nabors could drop to us.It's silly to think the Giants are telling everyone at combine who we want and buy telling everyone we want to trade up for QB also adds to this ruse.Nabors is the game changer we needs.
You guys believe in smoke screens way too much. They don’t work.
Bullshit. They worked in spyhunter although I preferred the oil slick.