Hughes: Giants want JJ Mcarthy

McCarthy at 6. Now? He likely won't even make it to 6.

Trade up and get it done. It's clear the Vikings feel he's worth multiple trade ups, there is no reason the Giants shouldn't.

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In comment 16433145 Sean said:

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Trade up and get it done. It's clear the Vikings feel he's worth multiple trade ups, there is no reason the Giants shouldn't.

I think the Vikings may want Maye more than McCarthy, but IDK

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No where near the same QB.

One of the stories is BS.

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The STRONG expectation around the NFL right now- 4 of the first 6 picks will be QB's.

Sounds like Arizona isn’t moving.

Joe Scheon is just going around telling everyone he wants JJ McCarthy huh

Just not as much as Maye, IMO. But if that door, meaning the door up to 3, is closed...

i think the trade battle is for pick #4 from arizona for JJM.

does Arizona want a boatload of assets from MIN?

or fewer assets but only a 2 pick slide?

would NYG give up their 2025 first to move up 2 spots?

i think that's where all this is going.

How much will they give up to get him is the question.

Will NE move out? I am thinking no. I think NE likes Maye.

Will AZ miss out on MHJ to move out for anybody? I think no.

I think it is all about LA Chargers who have a QB.

If NYG can trade up with LA in normal situation it will take a 3rd round pick tops but this is not normal. I would try a 2025 2nd round pick first, if not then maybe 2024 2nd round pick but get LA's 3rd.

Schoen has his work cut out for himself.

And they shouldn’t break the draft bank to try to do it.

In comment 16433159 ZogZerg said:

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No where near the same QB. One of the stories is BS.

The story about Fields is gossip and hot stupid take. They do not want to repeat the situation they had with Daniel Jones.

In comment 16433172 Eric on Li said:

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i think the trade battle is for pick #4 from arizona for JJM. does Arizona want a boatload of assets from MIN? or fewer assets but only a 2 pick slide? would NYG give up their 2025 first to move up 2 spots? i think that's where all this is going.

Yup.

but I can't shake the memory of falling in full bloom love with a guy they were projecting to be a better pro than college player. I hope this is just PTSD.

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He can do it all, including leap tall buildings in a single bound.

ahead and take the QBs or even trade with us -so he will have his choice of blue chip players

Got it.

If there's an outcome where Arizona gets Jefferson and number 11, they should do that.

Then fucking make it happen.

Schoen! Show us with your action!

of needs -QB WR RB DL DE TE LB S CB etc etc

In comment 16433175 jeff57 said:

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And they shouldn’t break the draft bank to try to do it.

The Giants can absolutely offer whatever the Vikings can if they choose to. To suggest otherwise is ignorant. We get it. You hate McCarthy. You let us know every chance you get. But no need to misrepresent the situation simply to make yourself feel better

In comment 16433189 The_Boss said:

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Got it.

This is the way.

I think JS scouted Maye on at least 4 different occasions this year alone. That’s the guy he wants. And I’m all for giving up whatever we have to, to get him. JMM is all smoke.

In comment 16433181 Go Terps said:

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Hopefully this is not the case here and his play and level of competition, plus conditions played in are all major steps ahead of the previous situation.

In comment 16433198 TheBlueprintNC said:

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of needs -QB WR RB DL DE TE LB S CB etc etc

Riveting. Thanks for the breaking news

But at 6

In comment 16433178 Go Terps said:

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but I can't shake the memory of falling in full bloom love with a guy they were projecting to be a better pro than college player. I hope this is just PTSD.

It does feel awfully familiar. Would the Giants be in love with McCarthy if they were picking #2, #3?

Vikings don’t make that trade if they don’t have something else in place

Every single day there is another media article about the McCarthy and Giants connection. Seems very forced to me.

If they trade up, they'll get one.

Yes, its 5 slots ahead, but also look at how the board is falling. The BPAs are going to slide where we are because we have so many QBs and QB-starved teams. Arizona and NE (I don't buy it but it's possible) can safely trade with us knowing that the non-QBs they want will be there at #6. Not so at #11.

In comment 16433207 Jolly Blue Giant said:

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But at 6

Me too. If Minn wants him that badly, I'd concede him to them. There's too much emotion running, threatening an overdraft.

Good GMs are prepared to make the tough choices. If we have to take the franchise QB search into next year, so be it.

If they take McCarthy at 3 I would start to question Schoen's GM abilities.

In comment 16433178 Go Terps said:

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but I can't shake the memory of falling in full bloom love with a guy they were projecting to be a better pro than college player. I hope this is just PTSD.

Well, it appears the NFL views 4 QB's as first round worthy. I don't recall teams trying to move up for Jones. I think McCarthy is very different.

It tells me the league is not high on Nix & Penix.

In comment 16433221 JonC said:

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If they trade up, they'll get one.

agreed

In comment 16433201 BigBlueShock said:

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In comment 16433175 jeff57 said: Quote: And they shouldn’t break the draft bank to try to do it. The Giants can absolutely offer whatever the Vikings can if they choose to. To suggest otherwise is ignorant. We get it. You hate McCarthy. You let us know every chance you get. But no need to misrepresent the situation simply to make yourself feel better

What can they offer that is equal to Minnesota? Who also has Jefferson has a bargaining chip.

In comment 16433227 ryanmkeane said:

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If they take McCarthy at 3 I would start to question Schoen's GM abilities.

Because you’re an expert on QB play? Same poster who thinks Jones is a good QB?

In comment 16433178 Go Terps said:

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but I can't shake the memory of falling in full bloom love with a guy they were projecting to be a better pro than college player. I hope this is just PTSD.

Yes. This is all very familiar. No one was even talking about Jones at 6 in 2019 until not long before the draft.

doesn't compute for either team.

AZ probably wants MHJ, and really do not see Harbaugh paying elite dollars for a WR. LAC is picking OT, Edge, or trading down.

In comment 16433227 ryanmkeane said:

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If they take McCarthy at 3 I would start to question Schoen's GM abilities.

Why? If Maye is gone and you don’t like Daniels, he makes perfect sense at 3. Minnesota would take him at 4 if they got there.

In comment 16433230 Sean said:

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In comment 16433178 Go Terps said: Quote: but I can't shake the memory of falling in full bloom love with a guy they were projecting to be a better pro than college player. I hope this is just PTSD. Well, it appears the NFL views 4 QB's as first round worthy. I don't recall teams trying to move up for Jones. I think McCarthy is very different. It tells me the league is not high on Nix & Penix.

The first round extends past the first 6 picks. Everything that people are reading is pure speculation. These beat writers and pundits are doing exactly what we are doing. They are trying to make sense of it all and predict the future. We haven’t even done most of the pro-days yet.

Because JJ McCarthy is not a top 10 NFL prospect, that's why.

He's going to command $30M plus AAV. Why do that in a strong WR draft?

Daniels vs Maye at 2 is holding whatever deals up.

we suck so badly with DJ and even GOD playing WR in 2024 that we easily have the 1st pick in 2025.

Fear of missing out is a recipe for failure.

They’re blowing smoke to make sure all 4 before they pick. They want to jones a WR. Look at the org coming out in defense of Schneiders comments. Daniel jones is going to be starting week 1

In comment 16433254 ryanmkeane said:

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Because JJ McCarthy is not a top 10 NFL prospect, that's why.

Based on what? Multiple GMs saying he is? Professional scouts saying he is?

You’re not an expert and speaking as if that’s a fact is foolish. Someone is taking him too 10 which means he is a top 10 prospect. Stop pretending you actually know what you’re talking about. It’s tiresome.