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CBS Mock - Maye to Vikings - McCarthy falls to Giants

GFAN52 : 3/16/2024 5:15 pm
1. Bears - Caleb Williams
2. Commanders - Jalen Daniels
3. Viking - Drake Maye
4. Cardinals - Marvin Harrison Jr.
5. Chargers - Malik Nabers
6. Giants - J.J. McCarthy - Best-case scenario for the Giants, who get the QB they're reportedly interested in without giving up anything.
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The Patriots desperately need a QB.  
BigBlueNH : 3/16/2024 5:21 pm : link
And they're gonna trade all the way down to 11, and pass on both Maye and McCarthy? The fan base would go nuts. This will never happen.
Getting our QB and staying put at 6  
Rjanyg : 3/16/2024 5:22 pm : link
Is best case scenario.
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Rudy5757 : 3/16/2024 5:23 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/16/2024 5:25 pm : link
If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.
This is along the lines of what I predict happening,  
BleedBlue46 : 3/16/2024 5:25 pm : link
As I explained in my post Why would the Pats Trade pick 3?
RE: The Patriots desperately need a QB.  
Big Rick in FL : 3/16/2024 5:26 pm : link
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And they're gonna trade all the way down to 11, and pass on both Maye and McCarthy? The fan base would go nuts. This will never happen.


It is entirely possible it happens. In fact a lot of people with inside info think it will happen. The Patriots don't make decisions based on what their fan base thinks nor should they.
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BleedBlue46 : 3/16/2024 5:27 pm : link
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.


They have tons of picks and they want MHJ imo. As for the Pats trading, I think they like Nix, maybe even on the same tier as jjm and maye imo
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Big Rick in FL : 3/16/2024 5:29 pm : link
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.


What teams? In this scenario the Cardinals would have to drop 8-10 picks and it's highly unlikely they'd be willing to do that.
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GFAN52 : 3/16/2024 5:29 pm : link
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.



They have tons of picks and they want MHJ imo. As for the Pats trading, I think they like Nix, maybe even on the same tier as jjm and maye imo


You refer to NE liking Nix on the same tier as Maye and JJ, where has that been reported and by whom?
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giantstock : 3/16/2024 5:32 pm : link
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.


A pipredream Az is going to trade their pick. MHV is supposedly the best WR in many years. They have shit now for WR.

Much better shot trading with Chargers.
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BleedBlue46 : 3/16/2024 5:34 pm : link
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.



They have tons of picks and they want MHJ imo. As for the Pats trading, I think they like Nix, maybe even on the same tier as jjm and maye imo



You refer to NE liking Nix on the same tier as Maye and JJ, where has that been reported and by whom?


I said maybe even on the same tier, it has been reported they like him. And here I've seen two posters report they know ppl inside the org that said they like Nix a lot too. Ofc, we don't know their tiers, but I feel very comfortable saying it has been reported they like Nix from multiple sources.
Pats  
Sammo85 : 3/16/2024 5:36 pm : link
are rumored to really like Daniels but if he’s not there it changes calculus. They have been somewhat open they see their situation as a multi year rebuild and wasting a couple years of a rookie QB deal and bad roster has risk of ruining QB development.

Not every team has same timing and philosophy on positional value relative to cap and roster talents.
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GFAN52 : 3/16/2024 5:37 pm : link
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.



They have tons of picks and they want MHJ imo. As for the Pats trading, I think they like Nix, maybe even on the same tier as jjm and maye imo



You refer to NE liking Nix on the same tier as Maye and JJ, where has that been reported and by whom?



I said maybe even on the same tier, it has been reported they like him. And here I've seen two posters report they know ppl inside the org that said they like Nix a lot too. Ofc, we don't know their tiers, but I feel very comfortable saying it has been reported they like Nix from multiple sources.


Who are these multiple sources is what I am asking. If you go on the NE boards for example, NO ONE has mentioned that.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/16/2024 5:37 pm : link
I hope you guys are right. And giantstock…you may be right about LAC. I just don’t think one of the big 4 QBs is still there at 6. If we want one of them, we probably need to move up.
i think its well known in league circles  
bigbluewillrise : 3/16/2024 5:45 pm : link
pats like daniels and will move down if hes not there.


once maye/jj are off the board at 3, ari will just take marvin.

chargers are the main team - will they move down?
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BleedBlue46 : 3/16/2024 5:48 pm : link
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.



They have tons of picks and they want MHJ imo. As for the Pats trading, I think they like Nix, maybe even on the same tier as jjm and maye imo



You refer to NE liking Nix on the same tier as Maye and JJ, where has that been reported and by whom?



I said maybe even on the same tier, it has been reported they like him. And here I've seen two posters report they know ppl inside the org that said they like Nix a lot too. Ofc, we don't know their tiers, but I feel very comfortable saying it has been reported they like Nix from multiple sources.



Who are these multiple sources is what I am asking. If you go on the NE boards for example, NO ONE has mentioned that.


I can't seem to find the article that reported interest, it's clogged up with a bunch of articles about them sending a lot of people to his pro day. The two private reports were from well known posters here that had friends with connections to the Pats. Can't say how much they like him of course, but the interest is real.
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GFAN52 : 3/16/2024 5:53 pm : link
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.



They have tons of picks and they want MHJ imo. As for the Pats trading, I think they like Nix, maybe even on the same tier as jjm and maye imo



You refer to NE liking Nix on the same tier as Maye and JJ, where has that been reported and by whom?



I said maybe even on the same tier, it has been reported they like him. And here I've seen two posters report they know ppl inside the org that said they like Nix a lot too. Ofc, we don't know their tiers, but I feel very comfortable saying it has been reported they like Nix from multiple sources.



Who are these multiple sources is what I am asking. If you go on the NE boards for example, NO ONE has mentioned that.



I can't seem to find the article that reported interest, it's clogged up with a bunch of articles about them sending a lot of people to his pro day. The two private reports were from well known posters here that had friends with connections to the Pats. Can't say how much they like him of course, but the interest is real.


I believe someone like Daniel Jeremiah is better plugged into the various draft teams needs and latest information anyway.

As the NFL Draft nears, and speculation intensifies, everyone seems to have an opinion about what the Patriots will do with the No. 3 pick.

One expert, Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network, seems confident that they’ve made up their minds.

“New England, to me, feels stuck,” Jeremiah told Zach Gelb of CBS Sports Radio. “Like, they are taking one. Everything that I’ve heard seems to be they are committed to staying at 3.”

Jeremiah said the Washington Commanders are more likely than New England to listen to a trade offer from the Minnesota Vikings.


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In Patti's  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/16/2024 5:56 pm : link
interview with Hondo, Hondo said he talked to an NFL exec that is not drafting a QB and he said they have McCarthy as the #1 QB in the draft with only another with a late 1st-round grade.
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BleedBlue46 : 3/16/2024 5:57 pm : link
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.



They have tons of picks and they want MHJ imo. As for the Pats trading, I think they like Nix, maybe even on the same tier as jjm and maye imo



You refer to NE liking Nix on the same tier as Maye and JJ, where has that been reported and by whom?



I said maybe even on the same tier, it has been reported they like him. And here I've seen two posters report they know ppl inside the org that said they like Nix a lot too. Ofc, we don't know their tiers, but I feel very comfortable saying it has been reported they like Nix from multiple sources.



Who are these multiple sources is what I am asking. If you go on the NE boards for example, NO ONE has mentioned that.



I can't seem to find the article that reported interest, it's clogged up with a bunch of articles about them sending a lot of people to his pro day. The two private reports were from well known posters here that had friends with connections to the Pats. Can't say how much they like him of course, but the interest is real.



I believe someone like Daniel Jeremiah is better plugged into the various draft teams needs and latest information anyway.

As the NFL Draft nears, and speculation intensifies, everyone seems to have an opinion about what the Patriots will do with the No. 3 pick.

One expert, Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network, seems confident that they’ve made up their minds.

“New England, to me, feels stuck,” Jeremiah told Zach Gelb of CBS Sports Radio. “Like, they are taking one. Everything that I’ve heard seems to be they are committed to staying at 3.”

Jeremiah said the Washington Commanders are more likely than New England to listen to a trade offer from the Minnesota Vikings.
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In that case, if the Vikings trade up with the Chargers we might be fucked. They could probably get Bowers and Fautanu with 11 and 23, plus another pick from the Vikings. I still believe the PatS' pick is traded if JD isn't there but who knows? T-40 days and counting!
 
ryanmkeane : 3/16/2024 6:02 pm : link
Giants would pick Odunze in that scenario.
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Big Rick in FL : 3/16/2024 6:08 pm : link
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.



They have tons of picks and they want MHJ imo. As for the Pats trading, I think they like Nix, maybe even on the same tier as jjm and maye imo



You refer to NE liking Nix on the same tier as Maye and JJ, where has that been reported and by whom?



I said maybe even on the same tier, it has been reported they like him. And here I've seen two posters report they know ppl inside the org that said they like Nix a lot too. Ofc, we don't know their tiers, but I feel very comfortable saying it has been reported they like Nix from multiple sources.



Who are these multiple sources is what I am asking. If you go on the NE boards for example, NO ONE has mentioned that.



I can't seem to find the article that reported interest, it's clogged up with a bunch of articles about them sending a lot of people to his pro day. The two private reports were from well known posters here that had friends with connections to the Pats. Can't say how much they like him of course, but the interest is real.



I believe someone like Daniel Jeremiah is better plugged into the various draft teams needs and latest information anyway.

As the NFL Draft nears, and speculation intensifies, everyone seems to have an opinion about what the Patriots will do with the No. 3 pick.

One expert, Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network, seems confident that they’ve made up their minds.

“New England, to me, feels stuck,” Jeremiah told Zach Gelb of CBS Sports Radio. “Like, they are taking one. Everything that I’ve heard seems to be they are committed to staying at 3.”

Jeremiah said the Washington Commanders are more likely than New England to listen to a trade offer from the Minnesota Vikings.
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In that case, if the Vikings trade up with the Chargers we might be fucked. They could probably get Bowers and Fautanu with 11 and 23, plus another pick from the Vikings. I still believe the PatS' pick is traded if JD isn't there but who knows? T-40 days and counting!


I just don't see why the Chargers would trade with the Vikings if the Giants are really interested in a QB. They drop back to 11 and they're gonna miss out on the handful blue chip prospects.

If they drop back to 6 they can pick up extra draft capital and still get one of their top 2 players.
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BleedBlue46 : 3/16/2024 6:08 pm : link
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You forgot to add the I thinkor I hope or imo there lol. And we all know you love Odunze and don't like JJM, that doesnt mean Schoen feels the same.
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Big Rick in FL : 3/16/2024 6:09 pm : link
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I do not think so
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BleedBlue46 : 3/16/2024 6:11 pm : link
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.



They have tons of picks and they want MHJ imo. As for the Pats trading, I think they like Nix, maybe even on the same tier as jjm and maye imo



You refer to NE liking Nix on the same tier as Maye and JJ, where has that been reported and by whom?



I said maybe even on the same tier, it has been reported they like him. And here I've seen two posters report they know ppl inside the org that said they like Nix a lot too. Ofc, we don't know their tiers, but I feel very comfortable saying it has been reported they like Nix from multiple sources.



Who are these multiple sources is what I am asking. If you go on the NE boards for example, NO ONE has mentioned that.



I can't seem to find the article that reported interest, it's clogged up with a bunch of articles about them sending a lot of people to his pro day. The two private reports were from well known posters here that had friends with connections to the Pats. Can't say how much they like him of course, but the interest is real.



I believe someone like Daniel Jeremiah is better plugged into the various draft teams needs and latest information anyway.

As the NFL Draft nears, and speculation intensifies, everyone seems to have an opinion about what the Patriots will do with the No. 3 pick.

One expert, Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network, seems confident that they’ve made up their minds.

“New England, to me, feels stuck,” Jeremiah told Zach Gelb of CBS Sports Radio. “Like, they are taking one. Everything that I’ve heard seems to be they are committed to staying at 3.”

Jeremiah said the Washington Commanders are more likely than New England to listen to a trade offer from the Minnesota Vikings.
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In that case, if the Vikings trade up with the Chargers we might be fucked. They could probably get Bowers and Fautanu with 11 and 23, plus another pick from the Vikings. I still believe the PatS' pick is traded if JD isn't there but who knows? T-40 days and counting!



I just don't see why the Chargers would trade with the Vikings if the Giants are really interested in a QB. They drop back to 11 and they're gonna miss out on the handful blue chip prospects.

If they drop back to 6 they can pick up extra draft capital and still get one of their top 2 players.


I don't think Harbaugh highly values receivers, he could get Bowers or Fuaga at 11 and Thomas Jr or Faulatu at 23.
So the Giants are not interested in any other QB other than JJ?  
ThomasG : 3/16/2024 6:12 pm : link
I’ll go with no.
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Big Rick in FL : 3/16/2024 6:16 pm : link
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.



They have tons of picks and they want MHJ imo. As for the Pats trading, I think they like Nix, maybe even on the same tier as jjm and maye imo



You refer to NE liking Nix on the same tier as Maye and JJ, where has that been reported and by whom?



I said maybe even on the same tier, it has been reported they like him. And here I've seen two posters report they know ppl inside the org that said they like Nix a lot too. Ofc, we don't know their tiers, but I feel very comfortable saying it has been reported they like Nix from multiple sources.



Who are these multiple sources is what I am asking. If you go on the NE boards for example, NO ONE has mentioned that.



I can't seem to find the article that reported interest, it's clogged up with a bunch of articles about them sending a lot of people to his pro day. The two private reports were from well known posters here that had friends with connections to the Pats. Can't say how much they like him of course, but the interest is real.



I believe someone like Daniel Jeremiah is better plugged into the various draft teams needs and latest information anyway.

As the NFL Draft nears, and speculation intensifies, everyone seems to have an opinion about what the Patriots will do with the No. 3 pick.

One expert, Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network, seems confident that they’ve made up their minds.

“New England, to me, feels stuck,” Jeremiah told Zach Gelb of CBS Sports Radio. “Like, they are taking one. Everything that I’ve heard seems to be they are committed to staying at 3.”

Jeremiah said the Washington Commanders are more likely than New England to listen to a trade offer from the Minnesota Vikings.
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In that case, if the Vikings trade up with the Chargers we might be fucked. They could probably get Bowers and Fautanu with 11 and 23, plus another pick from the Vikings. I still believe the PatS' pick is traded if JD isn't there but who knows? T-40 days and counting!



I just don't see why the Chargers would trade with the Vikings if the Giants are really interested in a QB. They drop back to 11 and they're gonna miss out on the handful blue chip prospects.

If they drop back to 6 they can pick up extra draft capital and still get one of their top 2 players.



I don't think Harbaugh highly values receivers, he could get Bowers or Fuaga at 11 and Thomas Jr or Faulatu at 23.


I never said anything about WR. I just said they can get one of their top 2 ranked players at 6. That's not happening at 11.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/16/2024 6:16 pm : link
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I think Nix may be the poor man’s McCarthy for the Giants  
Ivan15 : 3/16/2024 6:18 pm : link
If they don’t or can’t trade up and McCarthy doesn’t fall to them.
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GFAN52 : 3/16/2024 6:21 pm : link
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If they don’t or can’t trade up and McCarthy doesn’t fall to them.


At pick 6? I doubt it.
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ThomasG : 3/16/2024 6:21 pm : link
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BleedBlue46 : 3/16/2024 6:22 pm : link
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At pick 6? I doubt it.


Hell no imo
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.



They have tons of picks and they want MHJ imo. As for the Pats trading, I think they like Nix, maybe even on the same tier as jjm and maye imo



You refer to NE liking Nix on the same tier as Maye and JJ, where has that been reported and by whom?



I said maybe even on the same tier, it has been reported they like him. And here I've seen two posters report they know ppl inside the org that said they like Nix a lot too. Ofc, we don't know their tiers, but I feel very comfortable saying it has been reported they like Nix from multiple sources.



Who are these multiple sources is what I am asking. If you go on the NE boards for example, NO ONE has mentioned that.



I can't seem to find the article that reported interest, it's clogged up with a bunch of articles about them sending a lot of people to his pro day. The two private reports were from well known posters here that had friends with connections to the Pats. Can't say how much they like him of course, but the interest is real.



I believe someone like Daniel Jeremiah is better plugged into the various draft teams needs and latest information anyway.

As the NFL Draft nears, and speculation intensifies, everyone seems to have an opinion about what the Patriots will do with the No. 3 pick.

One expert, Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network, seems confident that they’ve made up their minds.

“New England, to me, feels stuck,” Jeremiah told Zach Gelb of CBS Sports Radio. “Like, they are taking one. Everything that I’ve heard seems to be they are committed to staying at 3.”

Jeremiah said the Washington Commanders are more likely than New England to listen to a trade offer from the Minnesota Vikings.
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In that case, if the Vikings trade up with the Chargers we might be fucked. They could probably get Bowers and Fautanu with 11 and 23, plus another pick from the Vikings. I still believe the PatS' pick is traded if JD isn't there but who knows? T-40 days and counting!



I just don't see why the Chargers would trade with the Vikings if the Giants are really interested in a QB. They drop back to 11 and they're gonna miss out on the handful blue chip prospects.

If they drop back to 6 they can pick up extra draft capital and still get one of their top 2 players.



I don't think Harbaugh highly values receivers, he could get Bowers or Fuaga at 11 and Thomas Jr or Faulatu at 23.



I never said anything about WR. I just said they can get one of their top 2 ranked players at 6. That's not happening at 11.


Well they have a good left tackle I don't think they'd take right tackle top 10, then there's Bowers and receivers after that? Who do you think their top targets would be? Outside of Bowers and receivers?
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BleedBlue46 : 3/16/2024 6:26 pm : link
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It doesn't say the only qb, it says the qb they are reportedly interested in. Big difference there.
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ThomasG : 3/16/2024 6:30 pm : link
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It doesn't say the only qb, it says the qb they are reportedly interested in. Big difference there.


It says THE QB they are reportedly interested in. If the writer meant to suggest there were others of similar interest it would have said A QB.

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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.



They have tons of picks and they want MHJ imo. As for the Pats trading, I think they like Nix, maybe even on the same tier as jjm and maye imo



You refer to NE liking Nix on the same tier as Maye and JJ, where has that been reported and by whom?



I said maybe even on the same tier, it has been reported they like him. And here I've seen two posters report they know ppl inside the org that said they like Nix a lot too. Ofc, we don't know their tiers, but I feel very comfortable saying it has been reported they like Nix from multiple sources.



Who are these multiple sources is what I am asking. If you go on the NE boards for example, NO ONE has mentioned that.



I can't seem to find the article that reported interest, it's clogged up with a bunch of articles about them sending a lot of people to his pro day. The two private reports were from well known posters here that had friends with connections to the Pats. Can't say how much they like him of course, but the interest is real.



I believe someone like Daniel Jeremiah is better plugged into the various draft teams needs and latest information anyway.

As the NFL Draft nears, and speculation intensifies, everyone seems to have an opinion about what the Patriots will do with the No. 3 pick.

One expert, Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network, seems confident that they’ve made up their minds.

“New England, to me, feels stuck,” Jeremiah told Zach Gelb of CBS Sports Radio. “Like, they are taking one. Everything that I’ve heard seems to be they are committed to staying at 3.”

Jeremiah said the Washington Commanders are more likely than New England to listen to a trade offer from the Minnesota Vikings.
Link - ( New Window )



In that case, if the Vikings trade up with the Chargers we might be fucked. They could probably get Bowers and Fautanu with 11 and 23, plus another pick from the Vikings. I still believe the PatS' pick is traded if JD isn't there but who knows? T-40 days and counting!



I just don't see why the Chargers would trade with the Vikings if the Giants are really interested in a QB. They drop back to 11 and they're gonna miss out on the handful blue chip prospects.

If they drop back to 6 they can pick up extra draft capital and still get one of their top 2 players.



I don't think Harbaugh highly values receivers, he could get Bowers or Fuaga at 11 and Thomas Jr or Faulatu at 23.



I never said anything about WR. I just said they can get one of their top 2 ranked players at 6. That's not happening at 11.



Well they have a good left tackle I don't think they'd take right tackle top 10, then there's Bowers and receivers after that? Who do you think their top targets would be? Outside of Bowers and receivers?


I have no idea who their top ranked players would be. They'd be morons if MHJr/Odunze/Nabers weren't some of their top ranked player.

Also If they'd take a RT at 11 I can't see why they wouldn't they take one at 6? I don't think you can rule out any position for them.
RE: The Patriots desperately need a QB.  
Blue21 : 3/16/2024 7:10 pm : link
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And they're gonna trade all the way down to 11, and pass on both Maye and McCarthy? The fan base would go nuts. This will never happen.
Wouldnt surprise me. And fans will go nuts until they pick Nix at 11 and have extra picks. They'll then be called brilliant. Then no one will know until a year or two from now if it was the right move.
I sure hope not  
Costy16 : 3/16/2024 7:19 pm : link
McCarthy ain’t it
Don't understand why the Pats don't  
larryflower37 : 3/16/2024 7:27 pm : link
Try and move to 2 or 1.
Not too many opportunities especially in that franchise history to be at 3, you have a new GM and New HC get the QB of the future this year and it fits everyone timeline.
I agree with the fan base this is the year and their opportunity to go all in on the QB.
Too many year of belichick getting cute in the draft.
RE: Don't understand why the Pats don't  
BleedBlue46 : 3/16/2024 7:43 pm : link
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Try and move to 2 or 1.
Not too many opportunities especially in that franchise history to be at 3, you have a new GM and New HC get the QB of the future this year and it fits everyone timeline.
I agree with the fan base this is the year and their opportunity to go all in on the QB.
Too many year of belichick getting cute in the draft.


The teams at 1 and 2 are locked in?
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.



They have tons of picks and they want MHJ imo. As for the Pats trading, I think they like Nix, maybe even on the same tier as jjm and maye imo



You refer to NE liking Nix on the same tier as Maye and JJ, where has that been reported and by whom?



I said maybe even on the same tier, it has been reported they like him. And here I've seen two posters report they know ppl inside the org that said they like Nix a lot too. Ofc, we don't know their tiers, but I feel very comfortable saying it has been reported they like Nix from multiple sources.



Who are these multiple sources is what I am asking. If you go on the NE boards for example, NO ONE has mentioned that.



I can't seem to find the article that reported interest, it's clogged up with a bunch of articles about them sending a lot of people to his pro day. The two private reports were from well known posters here that had friends with connections to the Pats. Can't say how much they like him of course, but the interest is real.



I believe someone like Daniel Jeremiah is better plugged into the various draft teams needs and latest information anyway.

As the NFL Draft nears, and speculation intensifies, everyone seems to have an opinion about what the Patriots will do with the No. 3 pick.

One expert, Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network, seems confident that they’ve made up their minds.

“New England, to me, feels stuck,” Jeremiah told Zach Gelb of CBS Sports Radio. “Like, they are taking one. Everything that I’ve heard seems to be they are committed to staying at 3.”

Jeremiah said the Washington Commanders are more likely than New England to listen to a trade offer from the Minnesota Vikings.
Link - ( New Window )



In that case, if the Vikings trade up with the Chargers we might be fucked. They could probably get Bowers and Fautanu with 11 and 23, plus another pick from the Vikings. I still believe the PatS' pick is traded if JD isn't there but who knows? T-40 days and counting!



I just don't see why the Chargers would trade with the Vikings if the Giants are really interested in a QB. They drop back to 11 and they're gonna miss out on the handful blue chip prospects.

If they drop back to 6 they can pick up extra draft capital and still get one of their top 2 players.



I don't think Harbaugh highly values receivers, he could get Bowers or Fuaga at 11 and Thomas Jr or Faulatu at 23.



I never said anything about WR. I just said they can get one of their top 2 ranked players at 6. That's not happening at 11.



Well they have a good left tackle I don't think they'd take right tackle top 10, then there's Bowers and receivers after that? Who do you think their top targets would be? Outside of Bowers and receivers?



I have no idea who their top ranked players would be. They'd be morons if MHJr/Odunze/Nabers weren't some of their top ranked player.

Also If they'd take a RT at 11 I can't see why they wouldn't they take one at 6? I don't think you can rule out any position for them.


I've thought Harbaugh would be locked in on 1 or two guys but the more I thought about it the more I realized that was me hoping and really have no idea if he'd rather plug more holes and get more guys he feels fit his mold or just get his top guy.
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.



They have tons of picks and they want MHJ imo. As for the Pats trading, I think they like Nix, maybe even on the same tier as jjm and maye imo



You refer to NE liking Nix on the same tier as Maye and JJ, where has that been reported and by whom?



I said maybe even on the same tier, it has been reported they like him. And here I've seen two posters report they know ppl inside the org that said they like Nix a lot too. Ofc, we don't know their tiers, but I feel very comfortable saying it has been reported they like Nix from multiple sources.



Who are these multiple sources is what I am asking. If you go on the NE boards for example, NO ONE has mentioned that.



I can't seem to find the article that reported interest, it's clogged up with a bunch of articles about them sending a lot of people to his pro day. The two private reports were from well known posters here that had friends with connections to the Pats. Can't say how much they like him of course, but the interest is real.



I believe someone like Daniel Jeremiah is better plugged into the various draft teams needs and latest information anyway.

As the NFL Draft nears, and speculation intensifies, everyone seems to have an opinion about what the Patriots will do with the No. 3 pick.

One expert, Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network, seems confident that they’ve made up their minds.

“New England, to me, feels stuck,” Jeremiah told Zach Gelb of CBS Sports Radio. “Like, they are taking one. Everything that I’ve heard seems to be they are committed to staying at 3.”

Jeremiah said the Washington Commanders are more likely than New England to listen to a trade offer from the Minnesota Vikings.
Link - ( New Window )



In that case, if the Vikings trade up with the Chargers we might be fucked. They could probably get Bowers and Fautanu with 11 and 23, plus another pick from the Vikings. I still believe the PatS' pick is traded if JD isn't there but who knows? T-40 days and counting!



I just don't see why the Chargers would trade with the Vikings if the Giants are really interested in a QB. They drop back to 11 and they're gonna miss out on the handful blue chip prospects.

If they drop back to 6 they can pick up extra draft capital and still get one of their top 2 players.



I don't think Harbaugh highly values receivers, he could get Bowers or Fuaga at 11 and Thomas Jr or Faulatu at 23.



I never said anything about WR. I just said they can get one of their top 2 ranked players at 6. That's not happening at 11.



Well they have a good left tackle I don't think they'd take right tackle top 10, then there's Bowers and receivers after that? Who do you think their top targets would be? Outside of Bowers and receivers?



I have no idea who their top ranked players would be. They'd be morons if MHJr/Odunze/Nabers weren't some of their top ranked player.

Also If they'd take a RT at 11 I can't see why they wouldn't they take one at 6? I don't think you can rule out any position for them.



I've thought Harbaugh would be locked in on 1 or two guys but the more I thought about it the more I realized that was me hoping and really have no idea if he'd rather plug more holes and get more guys he feels fit his mold or just get his top guy.


Yeah they're a true wildcard in this draft, but let's put it this way. If I'm a team looking to trade up into the top 5 I'd much rather be picking 6th than a team picking 11th.
Agreed, I'd rather get my guy whether it be Odunze, Alt, Bowers  
BleedBlue46 : 3/16/2024 7:57 pm : link
Or Turner. Nevertheless, if you think you can get 2 players that fit your mold at 11 and 23 plus get another pick too that could make sense as well. Really a big unknown. Best case scenario imo us the reports are true about Pats trading if Daniels isn't there and the Vikings or us make that trade. It seems like the Vikings are ready to go all out and I get the feeling Schoen would be happier to take JJM than get in an all out bidding war for DM. April 25th can't get here soon enough.
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They have tons of picks and they want MHJ imo. As for the Pats trading, I think they like Nix, maybe even on the same tier as jjm and maye imo



You refer to NE liking Nix on the same tier as Maye and JJ, where has that been reported and by whom?



I said maybe even on the same tier, it has been reported they like him. And here I've seen two posters report they know ppl inside the org that said they like Nix a lot too. Ofc, we don't know their tiers, but I feel very comfortable saying it has been reported they like Nix from multiple sources.



Who are these multiple sources is what I am asking. If you go on the NE boards for example, NO ONE has mentioned that.



I can't seem to find the article that reported interest, it's clogged up with a bunch of articles about them sending a lot of people to his pro day. The two private reports were from well known posters here that had friends with connections to the Pats. Can't say how much they like him of course, but the interest is real.



I believe someone like Daniel Jeremiah is better plugged into the various draft teams needs and latest information anyway.

As the NFL Draft nears, and speculation intensifies, everyone seems to have an opinion about what the Patriots will do with the No. 3 pick.

One expert, Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network, seems confident that they’ve made up their minds.

“New England, to me, feels stuck,” Jeremiah told Zach Gelb of CBS Sports Radio. “Like, they are taking one. Everything that I’ve heard seems to be they are committed to staying at 3.”

Jeremiah said the Washington Commanders are more likely than New England to listen to a trade offer from the Minnesota Vikings.
Link - ( New Window )



In that case, if the Vikings trade up with the Chargers we might be fucked. They could probably get Bowers and Fautanu with 11 and 23, plus another pick from the Vikings. I still believe the PatS' pick is traded if JD isn't there but who knows? T-40 days and counting!



I just don't see why the Chargers would trade with the Vikings if the Giants are really interested in a QB. They drop back to 11 and they're gonna miss out on the handful blue chip prospects.

If they drop back to 6 they can pick up extra draft capital and still get one of their top 2 players.



I don't think Harbaugh highly values receivers, he could get Bowers or Fuaga at 11 and Thomas Jr or Faulatu at 23.



I never said anything about WR. I just said they can get one of their top 2 ranked players at 6. That's not happening at 11.



Well they have a good left tackle I don't think they'd take right tackle top 10, then there's Bowers and receivers after that? Who do you think their top targets would be? Outside of Bowers and receivers?



I have no idea who their top ranked players would be. They'd be morons if MHJr/Odunze/Nabers weren't some of their top ranked player.

Also If they'd take a RT at 11 I can't see why they wouldn't they take one at 6? I don't think you can rule out any position for them.



I've thought Harbaugh would be locked in on 1 or two guys but the more I thought about it the more I realized that was me hoping and really have no idea if he'd rather plug more holes and get more guys he feels fit his mold or just get his top guy.



Yeah they're a true wildcard in this draft, but let's put it this way. If I'm a team looking to trade up into the top 5 I'd much rather be picking 6th than a team picking 11th.


If LA wanted to trade back only one spot and pick up some draft capital it in the process it seems like a no brainer to me.
This is a worst case scenario outcome  
bigblueny : 3/16/2024 8:00 pm : link
and I hate that mock
If the Giants have a conviction on 1-2  
LW_Giants : 3/16/2024 8:08 pm : link
guys then they shouldn't let themselves be outbid. Do whatever it takes to ensure Vikings don't jump them. We can accumulate more draft assets if need be.

Fortune favors the bold, if you really believe in someone don't let yourself be outbid.
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.



They have tons of picks and they want MHJ imo. As for the Pats trading, I think they like Nix, maybe even on the same tier as jjm and maye imo



You refer to NE liking Nix on the same tier as Maye and JJ, where has that been reported and by whom?



I said maybe even on the same tier, it has been reported they like him. And here I've seen two posters report they know ppl inside the org that said they like Nix a lot too. Ofc, we don't know their tiers, but I feel very comfortable saying it has been reported they like Nix from multiple sources.



Who are these multiple sources is what I am asking. If you go on the NE boards for example, NO ONE has mentioned that.



I can't seem to find the article that reported interest, it's clogged up with a bunch of articles about them sending a lot of people to his pro day. The two private reports were from well known posters here that had friends with connections to the Pats. Can't say how much they like him of course, but the interest is real.



I believe someone like Daniel Jeremiah is better plugged into the various draft teams needs and latest information anyway.

As the NFL Draft nears, and speculation intensifies, everyone seems to have an opinion about what the Patriots will do with the No. 3 pick.

One expert, Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network, seems confident that they’ve made up their minds.

“New England, to me, feels stuck,” Jeremiah told Zach Gelb of CBS Sports Radio. “Like, they are taking one. Everything that I’ve heard seems to be they are committed to staying at 3.”

Jeremiah said the Washington Commanders are more likely than New England to listen to a trade offer from the Minnesota Vikings.
Link - ( New Window )



In that case, if the Vikings trade up with the Chargers we might be fucked. They could probably get Bowers and Fautanu with 11 and 23, plus another pick from the Vikings. I still believe the PatS' pick is traded if JD isn't there but who knows? T-40 days and counting!



I just don't see why the Chargers would trade with the Vikings if the Giants are really interested in a QB. They drop back to 11 and they're gonna miss out on the handful blue chip prospects.

If they drop back to 6 they can pick up extra draft capital and still get one of their top 2 players.



I don't think Harbaugh highly values receivers, he could get Bowers or Fuaga at 11 and Thomas Jr or Faulatu at 23.



I never said anything about WR. I just said they can get one of their top 2 ranked players at 6. That's not happening at 11.



Well they have a good left tackle I don't think they'd take right tackle top 10, then there's Bowers and receivers after that? Who do you think their top targets would be? Outside of Bowers and receivers?



I have no idea who their top ranked players would be. They'd be morons if MHJr/Odunze/Nabers weren't some of their top ranked player.

Also If they'd take a RT at 11 I can't see why they wouldn't they take one at 6? I don't think you can rule out any position for them.



I've thought Harbaugh would be locked in on 1 or two guys but the more I thought about it the more I realized that was me hoping and really have no idea if he'd rather plug more holes and get more guys he feels fit his mold or just get his top guy.



Yeah they're a true wildcard in this draft, but let's put it this way. If I'm a team looking to trade up into the top 5 I'd much rather be picking 6th than a team picking 11th.



If LA wanted to trade back only one spot and pick up some draft capital it in the process it seems like a no brainer to me.


That's 1000% the right play IMO. If I was a team with a QB in place you can bet I'd be trying to squeeze the Giants for a few picks and still get 1 of my top 2 ranked players. We will see if they make the right decision or not.
RE: i think its well known in league circles  
crooza172 : 3/16/2024 8:50 pm : link
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pats like daniels and will move down if hes not there.


once maye/jj are off the board at 3, ari will just take marvin.

chargers are the main team - will they move down?


And why wouldn't they just move down to six and still get the guy they'd draft at 5?
QBs go 1-2-3  
Reeses Pieces : 3/16/2024 9:14 pm : link
With no trades. I expect Williams, Daniels, Maye in that order. I’d be surprised if the Pats went McCarthy over Maye, but doubt they trade out of the pick. The Cardinals are not going to move off of MHJ. The Chargers are the one team I can see the Vikings striking a deal with. Harbaugh and Co. are letting go of guys and will look to build it their way.
RE: The Patriots desperately need a QB.  
Optimus-NY : 3/16/2024 9:20 pm : link
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And they're gonna trade all the way down to 11, and pass on both Maye and McCarthy? The fan base would go nuts. This will never happen.


Agreed. The Giants still have an advantage over the Vikings IMO for this reason when it comes to trading with the Patsies. NE can take one of JJM and Nix 6th. The Cards are a near lock to choose MHJr 4th. The Chargers are the wildcard, and I think they make a deal with Minnesota for picks 11 and 23. That'd leave the Pats with one of the two QBs mentioned above.
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Optimus-NY : 3/16/2024 9:24 pm : link
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.


Not happening. MHJr is basically a can't miss prospect and the number 1 ranked player in this draft class. The Cards need to get their QB a weapon. They have 13 draft picks already this year. Focus on the Chargers as a potential trade partner for the Giants and Minnesota if New England stays put. Arizona is staying put and picking MHJr. Book it.
RE: RE: The Patriots desperately need a QB.  
GFAN52 : 3/16/2024 9:30 pm : link
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And they're gonna trade all the way down to 11, and pass on both Maye and McCarthy? The fan base would go nuts. This will never happen.



Agreed. The Giants still have an advantage over the Vikings IMO for this reason when it comes to trading with the Patsies. NE can take one of JJM and Nix 6th. The Cards are a near lock to choose MHJr 4th. The Chargers are the wildcard, and I think they make a deal with Minnesota for picks 11 and 23. That'd leave the Pats with one of the two QBs mentioned above.


Or LA trades with the Giants and get their choice of Naber or Odunze at WR.
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FStubbs : 3/16/2024 9:34 pm : link
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.



A pipredream Az is going to trade their pick. MHV is supposedly the best WR in many years. They have shit now for WR.

Much better shot trading with Chargers.


And the Chargers have a lot of nothing at WR as well right now so it's possible they stay put as well.
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GFAN52 : 3/16/2024 9:38 pm : link
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If QB goes 1-2-3, someone is giving AZ the bag to move up for whichever QB is left.



A pipredream Az is going to trade their pick. MHV is supposedly the best WR in many years. They have shit now for WR.

Much better shot trading with Chargers.



And the Chargers have a lot of nothing at WR as well right now so it's possible they stay put as well.


They still get their WR dropping back one slot to 6 assuming the Giants wanted McCarthy.
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ajr2456 : 3/16/2024 10:05 pm : link
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Giants would pick Odunze in that scenario.


I thought the difference between me and you is you “state what my opinion is. I don't pretend to know what the Giants think or what they will do.”
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Rjanyg : 3/16/2024 11:54 pm : link
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And they're gonna trade all the way down to 11, and pass on both Maye and McCarthy? The fan base would go nuts. This will never happen.



Agreed. The Giants still have an advantage over the Vikings IMO for this reason when it comes to trading with the Patsies. NE can take one of JJM and Nix 6th. The Cards are a near lock to choose MHJr 4th. The Chargers are the wildcard, and I think they make a deal with Minnesota for picks 11 and 23. That'd leave the Pats with one of the two QBs mentioned above.



Or LA trades with the Giants and get their choice of Naber or Odunze at WR.


I agree. So if LA might be willing to move back one spot now for a 4th round pick and get their choice of Odunze, Nabers, Alt at 6 we can be in position to get a QB at 5 assuming AZ says at 4 and take MHJ.

Only other option is if NE will trade out, nobody is 100% sure they aren’t taking one of the QB’s.
Panthers  
Simms : 3/17/2024 5:06 pm : link
Drafted a QB with their own series of woes didn't work out to well so far.

JJ could be hype with the Giants focused on another. The signing of Luck makes me think WR due to all of the FA signings. A few QB in the later rounds might of interest.

I also think JJ could be gone by the time we draft as Chargers and Denver seem prime to make a move.

Whoever we draft please make it be thw right choice...
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